12-16-2014, 05:24 PM
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Up to now my favorite brush is my Muhle STF 23mm brush. I just love the way it preforms. I also have the Plisson Cade, a H.I.S., and a Jack Black. I mostly bowl lather. Since I love the 23mm so much, which has the ivory handle, I decided to get a 25mm one with the faux horn handle. I can't wait to get it in my hands.

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 12-16-2014, 05:57 PM
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Let us know how you like it. I have the EJ XL, which is also a 25mm with the same synthetic fibers. I'm considering adding the Muhle 25mm.

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 12-16-2014, 07:11 PM
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  • Rob W
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(12-16-2014, 05:57 PM)TheLegalRazor Wrote: Let us know how you like it. I have the EJ XL, which is also a 25mm with the same synthetic fibers. I'm considering adding the Muhle 25mm.

The Mühle XL is not as dense as the EJ XL. I would say that it is somewhere in between the Plisson on the EJ as far as splay.

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 12-16-2014, 08:30 PM
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Congratulations on the new brush! Smile

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 12-16-2014, 08:40 PM
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I ordered it from Connaught Shaving. They had the best price.
It came out to $73.

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 12-16-2014, 09:12 PM
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$73 for the xl is a steal. I ordered mine here in the states for $100 but still was happy with the purchase. I have been reading that the EJ XL is more dense and I guess that means that the EJ is very, very dense. I have always considered the Muhle XL to be very dense anyway and it definitely has some backbone.

I do face lather using my Muhle XL but I would say if youre going to try to bowl lather, start for a while using very little pressure and let the tips work the lather and then slowing increase the pressure. I seem to think once the brush has a certain amount of pressure, the knot reaches the breaking point and splays a good amount.

I think I'm suggesting to the wait a bit before splaying the knot while mixing the lather. I think this is my best synthetic and seems to do great with lather difficult soaps that need control with water. I really hope you enjoy it. I also have it in faux horn and its beautiful.

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 12-16-2014, 10:21 PM
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I found the 25 mm Muhle a far better brush then the 23mm (the EJ is for me the best one)

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 12-16-2014, 11:29 PM
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That brush is a beauty! Congrats!

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 12-17-2014, 01:52 AM
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I have both the Edwin Jagger XL and L. Both amazing brushes but I may prefer the L slightly more as the XL is very big.

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 12-17-2014, 06:20 AM
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As I said, my Muhle 23mm knot is my favorite brush for bowl lathering. For face lathering, which I seldom do, I prefer the Plisson Cade.
There are a lot of ways to make lather but I found what works best with the Muhle is I start with fully wet brush and give it one good shake. Then I load the soap for 30 seconds. (I time it.) Then I move to a moist lather bowl and mix it up for about 60 seconds and I end up with plenty of lather for at least 3 passes.

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 12-17-2014, 06:25 AM
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Good stuff . I am curious if someone with EJ XL compare muhle with EJXL. It appears to have same fiber

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 12-17-2014, 06:36 AM
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(12-17-2014, 06:25 AM)Cricket203 Wrote: Good stuff . I am curious if someone with EJ XL compare muhle with EJXL. It appears to have same fiber

I thought they were the same exact knot. Some guys are saying otherwise. Hard to say for sure unless you have them side-by-side.

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 12-17-2014, 07:00 AM
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(12-17-2014, 06:36 AM)shave/brush Wrote:
(12-17-2014, 06:25 AM)Cricket203 Wrote: Good stuff . I am curious if someone with EJ XL compare muhle with EJXL. It appears to have same fiber

I thought they were the same exact knot. Some guys are saying otherwise. Hard to say for sure unless you have them side-by-side.

As I posted above. The EJ XL has the same fibers as the Mühle XL but the knot is denser on the EJ XL. The Mühle XL has more splay than the EJ XL but not as much as the Plisson.

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 12-17-2014, 07:08 AM
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(12-17-2014, 07:00 AM)Rob W Wrote:
(12-17-2014, 06:36 AM)shave/brush Wrote:
(12-17-2014, 06:25 AM)Cricket203 Wrote: Good stuff . I am curious if someone with EJ XL compare muhle with EJXL. It appears to have same fiber

I thought they were the same exact knot. Some guys are saying otherwise. Hard to say for sure unless you have them side-by-side.


As I posted above. The EJ XL has the same fibers as the Mühle XL but the knot is denser on the EJ XL. The Mühle XL has more splay than the EJ XL but not as much as the Plisson.




How did you draw this conclusion? Do you own both of them?

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 12-17-2014, 07:22 AM
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(12-17-2014, 07:08 AM)shave/brush Wrote:
(12-17-2014, 07:00 AM)Rob W Wrote:
(12-17-2014, 06:36 AM)shave/brush Wrote: I thought they were the same exact knot. Some guys are saying otherwise. Hard to say for sure unless you have them side-by-side.


As I posted above. The EJ XL has the same fibers as the Mühle XL but the knot is denser on the EJ XL. The Mühle XL has more splay than the EJ XL but not as much as the Plisson.




How did you draw this conclusion? Do you own both of them?

Yes I own both and the Plisson. I only state opinions on products I have owned and used. Hope this helps.

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 12-17-2014, 07:46 AM
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(12-17-2014, 07:22 AM)Rob W Wrote:
(12-17-2014, 07:08 AM)shave/brush Wrote:
(12-17-2014, 07:00 AM)Rob W Wrote: As I posted above. The EJ XL has the same fibers as the Mühle XL but the knot is denser on the EJ XL. The Mühle XL has more splay than the EJ XL but not as much as the Plisson.




How did you draw this conclusion? Do you own both of them?

Yes I own both and the Plisson. I only state opinions on products I have owned and used. Hope this helps.

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You have a nice collection of product. So what brush do you prefer of the 3 and why?

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 12-17-2014, 09:32 AM
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  • Rob W
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(12-17-2014, 07:46 AM)shave/brush Wrote:
(12-17-2014, 07:22 AM)Rob W Wrote:
(12-17-2014, 07:08 AM)shave/brush Wrote: How did you draw this conclusion? Do you own both of them?

Yes I own both and the Plisson. I only state opinions on products I have owned and used. Hope this helps.

You have a nice collection of product. So what brush do you prefer of the 3 and why?

All three are great brushes but my preference is the EJ XL. I like a brush with some resistance when I push it to my face when face lathering. The EJ has just about the right amount for me. The Mühle has a little less resistance and the Plisson has almost no resistance for my style of face lathering. It is nice that there is so much choice in brushes right now that a person can find just the right brush for them. I still like my Badger brushes too.

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 12-17-2014, 09:53 AM
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(12-17-2014, 09:32 AM)Rob W Wrote:
(12-17-2014, 07:46 AM)shave/brush Wrote:
(12-17-2014, 07:22 AM)Rob W Wrote: Yes I own both and the Plisson. I only state opinions on products I have owned and used. Hope this helps.

You have a nice collection of product. So what brush do you prefer of the 3 and why?

All three are great brushes but my preference is the EJ XL. I like a brush with some resistance when I push it to my face when face lathering. The EJ has just about the right amount for me. The Mühle has a little less resistance and the Plisson has almost no resistance for my style of face lathering. It is nice that there is so much choice in brushes right now that a person can find just the right brush for them. I still like my Badger brushes too.

It's funny I do like the Plisson best for face lathering. When I was trying to get the hang of using a shave soap stick I couldn't quite get it until I used the Plisson.

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 12-17-2014, 07:51 PM
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The 25mm Muhle synthetic is a monster. You'll whip up a lather instantly, this is the brush to use if you're short on time. I also like the Simpson CH2 synthetic.

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 12-17-2014, 08:02 PM
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(12-17-2014, 07:00 AM)Rob W Wrote: As I posted above. The EJ XL has the same fibers as the Mühle XL but the knot is denser on the EJ XL. The Mühle XL has more splay than the EJ XL but not as much as the Plisson.

+1

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