01-15-2015, 09:06 PM
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just wondering. Never saw one.

It could be the unicorn of the shave brush world.

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 01-15-2015, 09:35 PM
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Not that he's mentioned to me.

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 01-15-2015, 10:46 PM
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Hair grade names aren't a standardised thing.

Lee has his own hair grades, some of which are similar (batch to batch variations) to other brands 'Manchurian'.

I have a few in Finest which are.

It's best to speak to Lee and see what he has that will have the characteristics of other brands 'Manchurian' hair.

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 01-16-2015, 04:17 AM
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I concur with with the comments made by (Dipesh)


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 01-16-2015, 05:15 AM
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(01-15-2015, 10:46 PM)Dipesh Wrote: It's best to speak to Lee and see what he has .....

Easier said than done. Though I've tried my best, I am not one of the chosen few.....

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 01-16-2015, 07:39 AM
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(01-16-2015, 05:15 AM)Steelman Wrote:
(01-15-2015, 10:46 PM)Dipesh Wrote: It's best to speak to Lee and see what he has .....

Easier said than done. Though I've tried my best, I am not one of the chosen few.....

Ron, I know what you mean .... and this 'statement' is NOT limited to Lee ......(Post #36 Cool

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 01-16-2015, 08:41 AM
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Today, manchurian is just a word that help to skyrocket the price of brushes ... same for HMW

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 01-16-2015, 09:04 AM
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If you are referencing your question to Simpsons example of Manchurian, then I have never seen or tried a knot from Lee Sabini that was even comparable. However, Lee (WSP) had an original batch of Manchurian knots that were quite comparable, in my opinion.

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 01-16-2015, 10:02 AM
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(01-16-2015, 09:04 AM)celestino Wrote: If you are referencing your question to Simpsons example of Manchurian, then I have never seen or tried a knot from Lee Sabini that was even comparable. However, Lee (WSP) had an original batch of Manchurian knots that were quite comparable, in my opinion.

Yes Celestino....I am referring to the Simpsons hair. I have a 2014 CH3 Manchurian which I have grown to love.

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 01-16-2015, 10:08 AM
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As Dipesh indicated, hair grade names are not standardized by any means .. and each brand has their own way of denoting higher quality batches of product.

BMW M-series
Mercedes AMG
Audi S-series
etc.

I surmise that higher grade M&F brushes are somewhat comparable to higher grade Simpson brushes, in terms of hair characteristics and quality .. differing in nomenclature though.

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 01-16-2015, 12:10 PM
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I have (3) M&F Brushes in Finest and (3) in Blonde Badger and (1) Simpson Chubby 3 Jade Manchurian. The M&F's in Finest that I have are almost identical to the Simpson Manchurian. Just my $.02

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 01-16-2015, 09:40 PM
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I recently acquired a Dark Holler Designs PK-47 Prototype and the hair is remarkably Manchurian-like, but neither Ken, nor Lee actually called it Manchurian. Mine was customized in Heritage Finest 2-band hair for me by Lee Sabini.

I sold my Simpsons QE II, but loved the hair, and this brush is the closest I've found to that, albeit the PK-47 it a much larger knot at 25 x 52. I'd continue to try and contact Lee, otherwise you could give Ken, (Chiefbroom), a PM over at B&B. He made the Chief famous and is the proprietor of Dark Holler Designs.

Good luck on your grail!

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 01-16-2015, 09:45 PM
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(01-16-2015, 09:40 PM)Crag Wrote: I recently acquired a Dark Holler Designs PK-47 Prototype and the hair is remarkably Manchurian-like, but neither Ken, nor Lee actually called it Manchurian. Mine was customized in Heritage Finest 2-band hair for me by Lee Sabini.

I sold my Simpsons QE II, but loved the hair, and this brush is the closest I've found to that, albeit the PK-47 it a much larger knot at 25 x 52. I'd continue to try and contact Lee, otherwise you could give Ken, (Chiefbroom), a PM over at B&B. He made the Chief famous and is the proprietor of Dark Holler Designs.

Good luck on your grail!

He's here now too Cool

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 01-17-2015, 12:38 AM
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(01-16-2015, 09:45 PM)Bruce Wrote:
(01-16-2015, 09:40 PM)Crag Wrote: I recently acquired a Dark Holler Designs PK-47 Prototype and the hair is remarkably Manchurian-like, but neither Ken, nor Lee actually called it Manchurian. Mine was customized in Heritage Finest 2-band hair for me by Lee Sabini.

I sold my Simpsons QE II, but loved the hair, and this brush is the closest I've found to that, albeit the PK-47 it a much larger knot at 25 x 52. I'd continue to try and contact Lee, otherwise you could give Ken, (Chiefbroom), a PM over at B&B. He made the Chief famous and is the proprietor of Dark Holler Designs.

Good luck on your grail!

He's here now too Cool

Yes sir, he is one of our Artisans.

http://shavenook.com/user-chiefbroom

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 01-17-2015, 06:56 AM
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He's here now too Cool
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Yes sir, he is one of our Artisans.

http://shavenook.com/user-chiefbroom
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PM sent to Chief. Thank you all for the help......

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 01-17-2015, 07:06 AM
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Well, it would seem like I need to get a Chubby 2 Manchurian to see if it is similar to M&F Finest hair as I didn't find the TSN M6's hair comparable. Biggrin

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 01-17-2015, 07:41 AM
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(01-16-2015, 09:40 PM)Crag Wrote: I recently acquired a Dark Holler Designs PK-47 Prototype and the hair is remarkably Manchurian-like, but neither Ken, nor Lee actually called it Manchurian. Mine was customized in Heritage Finest 2-band hair for me by Lee Sabini.

I sold my Simpsons QE II, but loved the hair, and this brush is the closest I've found to that, albeit the PK-47 it a much larger knot at 25 x 52. I'd continue to try and contact Lee, otherwise you could give Ken, (Chiefbroom), a PM over at B&B. He made the Chief famous and is the proprietor of Dark Holler Designs.

Good luck on your grail!

Matt, from your words I'm assuming you asked for a specific batch of hair, right?
I'm saying this because my PK-47 is completely different from Simpson's Manchurian hair. Considerable less backbone and very soft tips (non gel like). Reminds me a bit of Simpson's 2-Band Silvertip, but with less backbone and, perhaps, not quite as soft - still, it has only been used once, so further impressions will be much more consistent.

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 01-17-2015, 07:48 AM
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I do not give much on the labeling of knots. As there is no common standard - especially in the 2 Band grade - it is all up to the creativity of the marketing department:

Blonde, White, HMW, Manchurian, Finest, F2, Super Fine, Heritage, HMW Super Grade, etc etc etc

I rather go with attributes that can be compared (though their interpretation can be subjective of course): Softness, density, flowthrough, quality of knot construction (well sorted hair, evenness, glue bump).

Combining this with shape (bulb/fan) and loft will get you (or not) the brush you desire.

Personally, I find the new shavemac 2 Band silvertip to be about the perfect hybrid of Simpson Manchurian and 2 Band: softer than Manchurian but with more backbone than the 2 Band.

The softest 2 bands for me are Simpson and Thäter 2 Band but you compromise backbone.

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 01-17-2015, 07:59 AM
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Is that PEARL of softness, or PERIL of softness??

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 01-17-2015, 08:12 AM
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oops.... sometimes English not being my native tongue catches up with me: what I meant is the softest 2 Band I have experienced is Simpson and Thäter...
(01-17-2015, 07:59 AM)akbkr23 Wrote: Is that PEARL of softness, or PERIL of softness??

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