01-23-2015, 10:59 PM
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I don't have a big selection of brushes, but I do prefer a nice quality brush with some backbone and soft tips as I prefer to face lather. I have several Rooney Heritage Super badgers and a couple of Thaters and really enjoy them but wanted to try something different. I have been looking at the M & F brushes but from what I hear they are hard to get, so I was wondering if anyone had used the Savile Row brushes and if so what was your opinion of them.....Thanks

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 01-23-2015, 11:35 PM
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  • German
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I have the SR 3824 Silvertip and it is a great brush. Medium dense with very soft tips and sufficient backbone to lather hard soaps. One of the few brushes that likely will never leave my den.

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 01-24-2015, 06:32 AM
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I had a 3824 that was an amazing brush until it started to shed a year after I got it. Went through all the processes to get it go stop but it wouldn't.

I was the First user but not original owner, it had zero warranty and the mfg was unable to do anything for me. It was sold on eBay as a shedder and I took a hit on it

I'd buy another, but never a used one again.

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 01-25-2015, 02:03 PM
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  • srgjazz
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  • Santa Monica
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I have a 3120 and love it for face lathering. It plays above it's weight. I also use a M&F 26mm Blonde Badger that has more scrub than the SR. The 24mm SR's are out of stock. I have a 3824 on my wish list. 

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 01-25-2015, 04:48 PM
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Have the 3124, great brush. Solid performer

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 01-26-2015, 12:21 PM
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Thanks guys for your comments, I might look at ordering one soon.....

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 01-26-2015, 12:39 PM
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  • Karlo
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  • Manila, PHL
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How do Savile Row's knots feel (tips, backbone) compared to standard Shavemac 3-band and Thäter 3-band silvertip? I hear good things about SR but am wondering if they feel different from the shavemac and Thäter that I have. (I'm running out of justifications for a new brush purchase as SWMBO has noticed a "few" more on my shelf.)

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 01-28-2015, 11:44 AM
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  • cmh8890
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  • Atlanta, GA
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I have the SR 3122 and it is my favorite stock/retail brush.  It performs well under any condition: bowl and face lathering, soaps and creams.  It has unbelievably soft tips, while providing ample backbone for me. I consider it medium density and thus has excellent flow through.

Here are the "nuance" differences (to me, at any rate) between my Thater 3-band bulb and my Shavemac 3-band fan. (So not quite apples to apples, admittedly). The SR backbone is ever so slightly more than the Thater, but ever so slightly less than the Shavemac - which makes it absolutely perfect for me. In terms of tip softness, it rivals the Thater and is slightly more soft than my Shavemac.  In terms of density, the SR is about the same as the Thater, but less than the Shavemac. 

All three are outstanding, and we're really pole vaulting over ant hills on these ever so slim differences; but that's what we do, right?

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 01-28-2015, 12:46 PM
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  • Karlo
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cmh8890,

You just saved me some money! I love my shavemac and Thäter, and doubt I could distinguish something that behaves midway between the two. Not yet at least. Smile

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 01-28-2015, 03:24 PM
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(01-28-2015, 11:44 AM)cmh8890 Wrote: I have the SR 3122 and it is my favorite stock/retail brush.  It performs well under any condition: bowl and face lathering, soaps and creams.  It has unbelievably soft tips, while providing ample backbone for me. I consider it medium density and thus has excellent flow through.

Here are the "nuance" differences (to me, at any rate) between my Thater 3-band bulb and my Shavemac 3-band fan. (So not quite apples to apples, admittedly). The SR backbone is ever so slightly more than the Thater, but ever so slightly less than the Shavemac - which makes it absolutely perfect for me. In terms of tip softness, it rivals the Thater and is slightly more soft than my Shavemac.  In terms of density, the SR is about the same as the Thater, but less than the Shavemac. 

All three are outstanding, and we're really pole vaulting over ant hills on these ever so slim differences; but that's what we do, right?

Sounds like it will fit right in with my other brushes just fine....Thanks!

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 06-01-2015, 02:50 PM
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I am very close to giving up on M&F.  I am looking at SR and Shavemac's new 2-band silvertip (bulb shape).  How would you guys compare the 2 brushes?  

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 06-01-2015, 05:55 PM
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(06-01-2015, 02:50 PM)Billium Wrote: I am very close to giving up on M&F.  I am looking at SR and Shavemac's new 2-band silvertip (bulb shape).  How would you guys compare the 2 brushes?  
I've never owned a Shavemac but I recently purchased a S.R. 3126.  My other brushes for comparison  are three band Rooney's.  It's every bit as good as my Rooney's.  It comes fully stuffed with supersoft silver tip badger hair.  It holds a ton of lather and splays with a nice flow through.  I think you'll be happy.   

If you want more backbone the two band Shavemac Tulip may be the better option for you.  

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 06-01-2015, 06:37 PM
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(06-01-2015, 02:50 PM)Billium Wrote: I am very close to giving up on M&F.  I am looking at SR and Shavemac's new 2-band silvertip (bulb shape).  How would you guys compare the 2 brushes?  

Savile Row are nice brushes, but you may find them to not have as much backbone as you might want, especially, if you are a face-latherer and depending on the size of the knot you are looking at.  
The Shavemac Silvertip 2-Band hair is one of the best I have tried with fantastic backbone, extremely soft tips and great flow-through, so if you want that great backbone, then this would be the better option.
Good luck. 

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 06-01-2015, 07:14 PM
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To me the old loft Savile Row brushes are just pure magic. While it might not be for me everyday, but I swear, someone shoot me if I ever think of getting rid of my old loft 3824 or 3118. They are superb and function beyond what I can get most of the brushes I've used with no effort. The 3118 is a nice little face latherer, even if the handle is a bit too short for me to use all the time, but otherwise I agree with Celestino.

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 06-01-2015, 07:53 PM
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Thanks gents. I imagine I will want the shavemac then.

I use a floppy plisson synth but I have an SOC boar coming in. I am hoping that will give me an idea of whether I really do want the backbone or if it's just a grass is always greener thing.

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 06-01-2015, 08:57 PM
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If you really want strong backbone, the Semogue SOC 2-Band would be an ideal candidate; not the softest tips, but great backbone; as would the Shavemace D-01 2-Band which has the strongest backbone of any 2-Band hair, in my opinion, but I would never describe the tips as soft, really. Well, the ones I have tried. 
However, if you want those lush, soft tips, then the Shavemac Silvertip would be your best option. I can almost guarantee that you will love this hair. Of course, YMMV and all of that.  Biggrin

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 06-01-2015, 11:01 PM
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I believe Savile Row are made by Shavemac. The 3124 SR I own is soft and great, but lacks density. It feels 99% like one of my 3-band Silvertip Shavemacs. Just less dense because I order all my Shavemacs extra densely packed.

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 06-02-2015, 04:30 AM
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(06-01-2015, 11:01 PM)CHSeifert Wrote: I believe Savile Row are made by Shavemac. The 3124 SR I own is soft and great, but lacks density. It feels 99% like one of my 3-band Silvertip Shavemacs. Just less dense because I order all my Shavemacs extra densely packed.

It was confirmed and publicly posted by Rudy Vey who has a close relationship with Bernd and has visited the factory in Germany, that Saville Row is in fact made by Shavemac.

So you are correct.

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 06-03-2015, 12:29 AM
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(06-02-2015, 04:30 AM)Bruce Wrote:
(06-01-2015, 11:01 PM)CHSeifert Wrote: I believe Savile Row are made by Shavemac. The 3124 SR I own is soft and great, but lacks density. It feels 99% like one of my 3-band Silvertip Shavemacs. Just less dense because I order all my Shavemacs extra densely packed.

It was confirmed and publicly posted by Rudy Vey who has a close relationship with Bernd and has visited the factory in Germany, that Saville Row is in fact made by Shavemac.

So you are correct.

Thanks for confirming this Bruce !!

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 06-03-2015, 01:18 AM
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(06-02-2015, 04:30 AM)Bruce Wrote:
(06-01-2015, 11:01 PM)CHSeifert Wrote: I believe Savile Row are made by Shavemac. The 3124 SR I own is soft and great, but lacks density. It feels 99% like one of my 3-band Silvertip Shavemacs. Just less dense because I order all my Shavemacs extra densely packed.

It was confirmed and publicly posted by Rudy Vey who has a close relationship with Bernd and has visited the factory in Germany, that Saville Row is in fact made by Shavemac.

So you are correct.

Whatever Bernd does with the Savile Row line then is magic because Shavemac and Savile Row are nothing alike for me. Especially the old lofts. I'm not saying I don't like Shavemac, I just find it hard to wrap my mind around this fact.

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