03-04-2012, 04:20 PM
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  • Teiste
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Another outstanding Zach's guide about boar shaving brushes.I must admit that after reading this guide I was hooked up with boar brushes.

Thanks to Zach for giving me the chance to share it here.

Boar bristles


Boar bristles are very easy to come by, and cost far less than badger, which is a protected species in many parts of the world. The primary supplier of boar bristle is China, but there is a fair amount sourced from India and from Russia as well. Boar bristles are thicker and stronger than badger, but not nearly as flexible. Boar bristle will absorb water, whereas badger will shed water; badger, however can hold more water than boar, likely because of surface tension and water’s attraction to the greater quantity of the finer hairs in the badger brush. If you shake them out, however, they will both give up all the water that they held (minus the amount that the boar bristles have absorbed).

Unlike the many grades of badger hair, boar bristles are not categorized by the area of the boar they are retrieved from. Primarily we can describe boar bristles as:

Unbleached (natural bristles, which can be yellow or brown or even gray)
Bleached (natural bristles that have been bleached white)
Sketched (natural bristles bleached white and then dyed with a stripe to resemble badger)
Clipped (instead of being formed, these brushes are clipped to make the rounded bulb)

Here is a picture, with L-R sketched blond, dyed white, blond no sketch :

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In addition to these basic measures, you can factor in a couple of more variables that do allow for a large variety of boar brush types. Given the above, you must also be aware of:

Hair length (the longer hairs are thicker and the shorter hairs are finer)
Loft (not necessarily the same as the above entry, as the long, thick hairs can be clipped from the bottom to allow for a thick but still short loft)
Hair thickness (finer hair can be more densely packed, and is less scrubby but softer)
Knot size (with boar, a thicker knot primarily means it will hold more soap)

Benefits of boar bristle

One important point about boar bristles, which is very different from badger, is that a natural boar bristle will split, over time, into 2 or 3 individual ‘hair tips’ connected to the same thick shaft. This gives you the benefit of a finer, thinner and softer hair with the support of a thicker, firmer bristle. If the bristles have been clipped, however, this will not likely happen, as the bristle has likely been cut below the area that would normally split. Also, thinner boar bristles will split less and also less often as will their thicker counterparts.

Here is a picture of a split bristle from an Omega 49 Professional:

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Boar bristles are thicker and stronger, so they are naturally a better choice with hard soaps. A softer and much more flexible badger hair will require more work and more time to extract the same quantity of soap, simply because it has less ‘bite’. To imagine this, consider how much soap a wire brush would remove from a puck, and the reason why this is so. It’s not nearly as extreme a correlation, of course, but the simple concept is the same. And it’s the reason why boar is referred to as ‘bristle’ and why badger is referred to as ‘hair’.

If you will take a look at the next picture you’ll see a bristle from the #48 boar on the left, with a trident-like split at the tip. Next to it is a hair from a Rooney Super badger; the reason why it’s got a bit of a ‘squiggle’ to it is because I had to pull it out; I was not able to pull out the boar and had to cut it out. Clearly you can see why one is a bristle and the other a hair; close up it’s like 20lb fishing line next to a fine hair from my forearm:

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Boar brushes hold less water. Why is this an advantage? Because even boar brushes hold more water than you will need, even boar brushes must be allowed to drain some water, or allowed some excess water to be shaken off. Too much water in the mix is the number one problem with bad lather. You’re far less likely to have this problem, simply by using a boar bristle brush. Stated more plainly: if a boar brush can hold too much water for lathering, and a badger brushes can hold WAY too much water, then the ability to hold more water becomes a risk to your lather.

Boar brushes take longer to create a great lather. Why is this an advantage? Because of the simple fact that if you take more time to make lather, you’re more able to catch mistakes and compensate for them; also you won’t be as likely to miss the ‘sweet spot’ in your lather. A simple analogy is slow motion; if you can see things happening in slow motion, you can sidestep a potentially big problem. Boar brushes therefore allow for a more consistent lather than badger does; while this may mean nothing to an expert, recall the title of this post.

Boar brushes are ideal for face lathering. Why is that? Well, because the lathering on the face part is not all about the face, it’s about the hair on your face. Boar works this hair harder, works lather into your pores and into your follicles better, and softens up the hair better by giving it a better workout. Also, contrary to popular belief, a boar brush, when wet, is not prickly, and when broken in, is soft and very easy on even sensitive skin.

Boar brushes are somewhat ‘adjustable’. Since a boar brush will absorb water, if you let it soak in hot water for 5 minutes while you shower, you will get the softest shave possible with that brush. If you do not, however, you will get a stiffer shave. If you have 2 of the same boar and switch between them every other day, allowing the brushes 48 hours each to become bone dry, they will give you the stiffest shave possible for that brush.

So, in summary:
1) Too much water?
2) Not enough soap?
3) Not enough consistency?
4) Like to face lather?

Answers: 1) boar, 2) boar, 3) boar, 4) boar

What to look for in your first boar brush


Boar brushes are not made like badger brushes. There is no manufacturer that will spare no expense to make the finest boar brush possible; you cannot spend $50 on a boar brush. While a small army and I are currently working very hard to bring you more boar of higher quality, still, I’ll never be able to talk the French into making a boar for you, and I did take 6 years of French, so it’s not for a lack of speaking French that I will fall short. The reason is more ‘complicated’ and completely mired in misconception, predilection, and sadly, condescension. This is a situation that a small army and I are fighting against, and the reason for this post. So, anyway, what do you look for?

First, just get an Omega #48 professional brush, and get to know it. Then, once you understand it, you can get other boar brushes. You can get this brush, delivered, for under $20. The Omega professional is the standard brush by which all other boar are judged; that’s not to say that it’s the best boar brush, but it is the most popular, for good reason, and it is the reference that we can all use to compare. It has a 28mm knot of blond boar bristle; it’s fairly scrubby, even when broken in, and it can hold a copious amount of lather. The handle is extremely functional and useful; it’s made of ABS plastic and comes in chrome, gold, and chrome sketch. This is a very tall brush, over 5” tall.

More to the topic, though, what to look for in a boar brush, and what not to look for:
Don’t buy a cheap $5 boar brush and think that you know boar
Do buy most any Omega brush that you like the handle of and the size of
Boar brushes can shed when new; this is normal, but should stop after a week or two, like the Boreal brush; some brushes are shedders, though, like the Van Der Hagen brush; try to avoid known shedders, which are many, as most boar brushes made in China wholesale for $1
Unless you are specifically looking for a scratchy brush, don’t buy brushes with clipped bristles, like the Burma Shave brush, and the similar looking, newer stock Ever Ready brush; the Edwin Jagger boar is an exception here; scrubby but not annoying.
Buy any English made boar from Kent, Jagger, or Vulfix, also Colonel Conk (which is made by Vulfix)
If you want to get multiple passes from one loading, you can adopt an aggressive lathering technique and get this done with any brush, but you will have the most success with medium sized brushes with big knots, like my favorite, the Omega 31064 and family, known by some as Group 66
Plan on using soap with your boar and lathering directly on the puck; if you plan to use cream, plan on using a mug or lathering in your hand.
A heavier handle works better with boar, as it seems to go along with the added effort in lathering; Vulfix makes wonderful lathe turned handles, and Omega makes solid acrylic handles; these IMHO are best for boar. Also quite to my liking is solid wood; this adds a certain ambiance to the ‘old school’ atmosphere of traditional wet shaving that I am quite fond of.
You can buy 5 boar brushes and have them delivered for less than 1 good badger, so if money is not an issue, buy a couple and take them for a spin; if money is an issue, get the #48 which is under $20 delivered. If money is really a problem, get a <$3 Delong brush from China, which has a hard to use and cheap plastic handle, but, does lather pretty well. And save $1 a week for 5 months and get the Omega. And do NOT buy that shave soap offered on that site!! (And don’t buy that brush, either, unless you need to, it’s not a good brush, but the knot (thought small) is not complete crap, either.

What to do with your new boar brush


Your new boar brush is going to have a smell on it, that’s all there is to it. It’s an animal product, and it has come from a wild animal. The amount of time and effort necessary to de-skunk these bristles is likely costlier than the manufacturers would like, or else they would do a better job with these brushes. Now, for those who have not smelled it, it’s kind of like wet dog; it’s not that bad. And you can’t smell it at all, until you bring the brush to your face. Your wife is NOT going to come running upstairs wondering if something died in the bathroom. I am going to describe what it is that I like to do before the first use. I think I can get 90% or more of the smell out this way, and, after that, I just use it, and it goes away. Keep in mind that since boar absorbs water, that some of the smell has been absorbed by the bristles, likely, as part of the cleaning process, so you have to account for that as well; this is why it does not come clean the first shot, and takes a couple three shaves to clean out; I wrote the following for a friend; this is what I do:

Instructions for you:
(one day I might videotape this if you think it would be a good idea)

First, rinse the brush under a stream of hot tap water for 1-2 mins, pretending it’s full of soap. This to rinse off anything on the surface of the hairs. Next, get a very clean mug; boil some water.
Place the brush in the empty mug, bristles down, and eyeball it so that you know more or less exactly how much water to put into the mug to coat the bristles right up to the ring; take the brush out.
Fill the mug with boiling water to the mark you made in your head.
If you have an instant read thermometer you want 165 degrees, enough to kill germs; if you do not, wait about 5-7 mins or so.
Place the brush in the water, and let it sit for 5 mins.
You will notice how the tip that was once tapered is now splayed out; this is key; you need this separation of bristle to destink the brush.
Add about ½ teaspoon of borax to the water; if you don’t have borax, you can use a couple of drops of shampoo for hair.
The reason why you waited the first 5 mins with plain water was so that the brush, which absorbs water, does not absorb any soap nor funk (I have been doing this for years).
Now grasp the brush handle between your palms like a stick of wood that you’re going to start a fire with; rub your palms briskly with the brush between them so that the brush spins in the water like a washing machine agitator; if this is messy or uncomfortable just twist it back and forth with your hand; agitate for a good minute, then rinse under running water; you can shave with it now or save it for tomorrow.

Now I know that this super hot water thing is controversial; but this is exactly what I do. I know that Giovanni disagrees with me on this one, and he has been told by at least one brush manufacturer to NOT expose the knot to water, much less really hot water. Boreal, for example, writes on the box itself to not submerge the brush underwater. And maybe I would too, if I were a brush manufacturer. Gio's recommendation for disinfecting the brush would be to rinse it in a 50% solution of water and Listerine, followed by a quick wash with baby shampoo; you might want to try this; for sure it would be more gentle on the brush.

Before each shave, for at least 20 shaves, place it in a mug of hot water and let is soak while you shower. After about a month, you will notice the tips of the brush are starting to split, and the brush is softer and holding more soap and lather than when it was brand new. I’ve said this before but will repeat myself for the purposes of this guide:
A badger brush is ready to run, right out of the box. Let’s say that it’s 90% of everything that it will ever become on the first use. The boar brush is NOT. It’s a different brush in a week, and again in a month, and again in 3 months. The boar takes 3 months of use to reach 90%.

The brush will soften immensely over time, and work much better as well, across the board; your patience will be rewarded with great shaves and a lot of satisfaction.

Lathering soap with your boar brush


Lathering means a lot of different things to different people. Some people like an airy, huge meringue of lather; others like a paste; some like watery lather, others a dry lather. Some like a bowl, others a hand, some like to face lather, and some like a shave stick.
So, for the purposes of making you happy, of course, do as you see fit; for the purposes of this thread, however, I will offer what I think makes the best shave: a thick, protective, and slick layer of soap. If you read this thread you’ll know how I feel about the topic of soap. Use it, and use a lot of it. Lather up before the first pass, then rinse with hot water and re-lather for each subsequent pass. You don’t need less protection for your second or third pass, you need more; you’ve just scraped a layer of skin off your face with a blade. Use a lot of soap!

So with the boar, you’ll notice that it pretty much holds the right amount of water with little help. For the sake of consistency, don’t run your brush under a stream of water, submerge it instead in a cup of hot water. Remove it from the water, and start using it once it’s done dripping; this is the amount of water you want. You will use this water to create lather; the lather will be too wet. Use this wet lather to make better lather, do not shave with this lather. This lather is high water content, and just keep capturing it with the brush and working it into the soap, pulling off more and more soap into your mix, making a thicker and thicker lather, up until the point where you have a brush that’s fully loaded with cream, and you can then use this on your face.
This is an Omega #49 lathered with some Valobra soap until it achieves the proper consistency. Notice the lack of any overwhelming meringue; what is in there is dense, and slick, and protective:

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Here are the points on lathering:

• The use of soap, water, and a brush are the ingredients to make a lather
• Start off with a brush full of water, which is more water than you think you need
• Recapture the water with your brush by swirling in a bowl; use this water to make more lather
• Use the lather you are creating to continue the lathering process, mixing in more and more soap until you have built a cream and your brush is loaded with it
• If you lose lather out the side of your bowl, don’t worry about it
• Once that's done, you lather onto your wet face to further build the into your beard
• You finish with a painting stroke to even it all out
• A hotter water will do more damage to the soap
• A stiffer bristle will also do more damage to the soap
• Use the water in the brush to make more and more cream that will go deeper and deeper into your brush to solve the problem of a long bristled brush ‘eating’ your cream
• If you insist on three passes from one load, you can accomplish this; in the beginning of the break-in process you can squeeze the lather from the base into the tips for the third pass

I did make a video on this topic.
I will make more, as well, and keep them on the same channel.

Lathering creams with a boar brush


Lathering a cream with a boar is easy to do, however, unlike a soap, it's not completely idiot proof.
With a soap, you can't have too much water; with a cream, you sure can; with cream it's more important that you start out with the right amount of water. The best way to assure consistent results with a cream is to start off a little dry, and then wet the tips of the brush to add more water when necessary.

There are several ways that you can go about this:

1) Use a bowl, and place an amount of cream in the bowl. Depending on the cream and the size of your brush, this might be an almond sized amount, or more for some creams. Take the wet brush out of the mug, or run it under water if you like, and hold it until it stops dripping, then give it one good shake. Start working the cream at this time. If you like a thick cream, you can work it for 15 seconds in the bowl, then bring it directly to your wet face, and continue working it on your face for at least 30 seconds, up to a minute if you like. Finish with a painting stroke to even it all out. If you need more water, after having worked the cream onto your face, dip the tips (let's say 1/2" to 3/4" of the tips) into some hot water, and bring that back to your face, and quickly run it over your face to evenly add the moisture, and then continue working it into your beard.

If you like a fluffy lather, you can work the lather in the bowl for 1-2 minutes, adding water as necessary, until you have built up a mug full of lather, and then apply that to your face.
If you like a wet lather, work it in the mug as above, with more water.

2) You can add the dollop of cream into the palm of your hand, and with the wet brush as above (full brush with 1 big shake) start to make lather in the palm of your hand. Continue this for 20-30 seconds; take the soapy palm of your hand and wipe it onto your wet face, followed by the brush, lathering onto your face. If you need more water, dip the tips into some hot water, bring the brush to your face, then quickly and evenly distribute the water, and continue to work the lather; finish off with a painting stroke to even it all out.

3) Dip your wet brush directly into your tub of cream; take the wet brush, invert the tub of cream and swirl your brush into the cream, upside down, until you have a nice load onto your brush; the reason for doing this upside down is so that you don't accidentally dilute your cream with water from the brush. Take this brush directly to your wet face, work it into your face for a minute or so. If you need more water, dip the tips into some hot water, bring the brush to your face, and then quickly and evenly distribute the water, and continue working the lather; finish off with a painting stroke to even it all out.

4) Spread the cream directly onto your wet face, like using a shave stick, and lather it with a wet brush. This is a very easy and very effective way to lather a cream with any brush, however, if you have sensitive skin, it's not a good idea with some soaps that can be irritating, for example, Trumper Violet. Other creams can also be drying in this high concentration; you'll have to experiment with what works for you.

No matter which method you use, start out with a dryer brush, and add water if needed.

The more water you use, and the more air you whip into your soap, the more lather you will create; this lather may look impressive, but it's not good for shaving. A badger brush, with its finer hairs, can whip more air into a lather than a boar can, and can make a more impressive looking lather.

If you have too wet a lather, you can add more cream to compensate.

If you are running out of soap for a touchup pass, you can squeeze the bristles from the knot out to the tips, moving the trapped soap back to where you can use it.

If you like a warm lather with your cream, use the mug method; let the mug soak in hot water to absorb its heat, and this heat can be transferred to your dollop of cream. The worst method would be brush directly into pot of cream, directly to your face; this will be cold. For the best possible hot lather with a cream, of course, invest in a scuttle.


Care of your brush


A good boar brush won’t last as long as a good badger brush, and there are three reasons for this. First, boar bushes (although not nearly true on this forum) are a quantity item, whereas badger brushes are a quality item. Now before you (and you know who you are) go quoting this sentence and adding “Well, Zach, on this point we agree” keep in mind this fact: there are people out there that are spending every imaginable ounce of energy to make the very best badger brush possible, sparing no expense, and there are more people that are competing with these people. Boar is not so; boar is for the masses, and as such is produced en masse. Badger is for the (let’s just say more selective to be polite) and are built in a (more discerning) manner. Oh, and they are priced accordingly.

Second, because the bristle is thicker and less flexible, it will break after some time. After a couple of years of use, what you think is shedding is more likely breaking at the area around the top of the knot, due to flexing.

Third, because the bristle is thicker, they naturally take up more space in the knot, space where there might be glue otherwise; the holes in the glue knot are larger, therefore, so the glue now has less glue in it, and is therefore more prone to breaking than a badger knot. Omega puts their glue knot into a plastic ‘cup’ to help counteract this, but most do not (Kent, Vulfix, and every single $5 brush).
Still expect to use a boar for 10 years or so, but, bottom line, it won’t last as long as badger.
With regard to the care of your brush, after the initial cleaning, you can use your brush as you would any other brush. The boar brush doesn’t tend to cake up and require cleaning nearly as often as the badger brush, however, if you like, you can clean it, but, since the bristle will absorb water, be careful of what you use, and of how long you use it. I find that using superheated water as a soak and spin will do just as much good as a borax soak. Boil some water, and then let it cool, till it’s about 165 degrees; then soak, and spin. By spin, I mean just that. Let the brush soak till the bristles splay, then twist it really fast via the rubbing together of your palms, or any means you have to make keep the handle in one place but still spinning back and forth like the agitator of a washing machine.

If you buy a used boar brush and for whatever reason intend to use it, go with 175 degree water to kill as many germs as possible, and a borax soak. Follow the ‘how to clean your new brush’ instructions. If especially funky you might want to use the hot water / borax solution with an ultrasonic cleaner; this is the best you can do.
With vintage brushes, be careful of the knot, if the brush looks old and dried up, there’s a good chance that the knot can crack. If so, just make use of the handle and replace the knot with a badger knot.
New addition: boar brushes absorb water, and badger does not. It's very important to not let your boar brush dry with a load of lather in it; this soap will be absorbed into the bristle and subsequently when the brush dries after rinsing it will feel stiff and inflexible; also, after years of service, if you don't rinse them well after use, a boar brush will eventually become dryer and inflexible. It's important that you soak this brush before use, then rinse well and let dry, soaking before each use for at least a month in an effort to try to remedy the damage. If you use a brush in this condition, you stand a very good chance of breaking bristles, and possibly even cracking the knot.


FYI, the availability of replacement boar knots is next on my list, once the March dust settles. As always, I will never be selling anything, nor profiting in any way from anything I say, or do, or recommend.

What not to do with your boar brush


I have read all these things on the boards (not just this one) many times.
Don’t do this:

• Don’t hit your tips with a hammer to soften them
• Don’t use sand paper on a boar brush for the same reason
• Don’t soak your brush in Barbicide
• Don’t lather up your brush on a brick or on cement
• Don’t boil your brush

Frequently asked questions


What’s the best way for me to break in my boar brush?
- Just use it to shave with

But what if I want to break it in faster? What if I can’t wait?
- Use a badger brush instead

I’m afraid to use a boar brush, because I have sensitive skin, and I have heard that they are not for people like myself
- All skin is sensitive, and unless it’s a clipped version of the bristle, it’s softer than most badger

I’ve heard a lot of great things about boar brushes; if these are true, then why are they not more popular?
- The thoughts and ideas on this and most shave forums are a collective; they formed at the same time and have been built upon. They are the hive mind; you are told something, and you tell people, and when enough people believe it, it becomes de facto. The truth is that in most parts of the world where people use a brush to shave, people use boar. It is that popular, it always has been.

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What is the absolute best boar brush on the market?
- The one that makes you the happiest

Isn’t it true that the only reason why people use boar is because it’s cheaper? Like, barbers are notoriously cheap, and so, they use boar, because they are cheap, right? Wouldn’t it make me cheap / doesn’t it make you cheap to use boar?
- No, but if it makes you feel superior, by all means, use badger

I have a $500 super white brush and I’m afraid to use it; I’m afraid of twisting the hairs together causing them to fall out; I’m afraid of dipping it into anything that has any color in it for fear of coloring the super white bristles. I worry a lot about the knot and the care of the knot, and I only let it dry in a stand to protect the knot. I’m not sure of the best way to dry it, how much to shake it, should I towel it off, can I use it again if it’s still damp, and I also worry about mold. I live in fear of dropping it so that I might crack or splinter the handle; basically, I am afraid to use this brush and I have stress every single morning while I prepare to shave. Can you help me, Mr. Boar Man??
- No
In conclusion, I would like to borrow this summation from Ren, who stated quite eloquently the following:

IMO, the boar vs. badger debate is similar to the soap vs. cream debate. Each category is different, but each is perfectly suitable for the task at hand.
I agree; use what makes you happy.
I use boar for several reasons; the most obvious is that this is how my father taught me, and this is what I have always used. The second is because for me, it works better. And I like to use soap, and I like to use a lot of soap, and I like to load up between passes. But I also like cream, and a broken in 31064 does not fall short with this task, and the Trumper feels just as luxurious with the Omega as it does with the Simpson.
Plus, it suits me.
And I’m very lucky to know that and to be able to say that.
I like everything that I acquire to suit me and not the other way around, and I don’t believe that anything that I acquire makes a statement about who I am.
I am what I am, I cannot be made into anything else.
If you feel this way too, I encourage you to try an old school boar brush!

Mike Ham have used some parts of this article for his books.Thanks to Zach and Mike for divulging really nice information about wet shaving.

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 03-04-2012, 06:17 PM
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Great guide. I can't believe I've never read this. Thanks for posting it

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 03-04-2012, 06:37 PM
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Too bad he was insulted and dropped out of the forums. He has some great posts from several years ago.

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 03-04-2012, 09:04 PM
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I think I'm going to order my first quality boar tonight

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 03-04-2012, 09:09 PM
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Such an inspiring guide! I just ordered 2011 LE Boar 2 from vintagescent tonight.

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 03-04-2012, 09:09 PM
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What ever happened to Zach? He seems like a knowledgeable enthusiastic guy.

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 03-04-2012, 10:02 PM
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(03-04-2012, 06:37 PM)Williams Warrior Wrote: Too bad he was insulted and dropped out of the forums. He has some great posts from several years ago.

Yes he was insulted by others "fanatics" who thinks they are right and everybody else is wrong.
Fortunately,we have his work here with us now to read it and put it in practice.
For me there's not debate of "whats best,badger or boar?",since both kind of hair offers us different "experiences" but basically same results at the end.

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 03-04-2012, 11:01 PM
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(03-04-2012, 04:20 PM)Teiste Wrote: ...Thanks to Zach for giving me the chance to share it here...

Thank you for posting.
I am not familiar with this story but one could only hope Zach will join this forum sometime.

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 03-04-2012, 11:18 PM
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I just placed my order for my first good boar brush, I cant wait!

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 03-05-2012, 12:21 AM
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(03-04-2012, 11:01 PM)VerbaVolant Wrote:
(03-04-2012, 04:20 PM)Teiste Wrote: ...Thanks to Zach for giving me the chance to share it here...

Thank you for posting.
I am not familiar with this story but one could only hope Zach will join this forum sometime.

Hopefully he will.

(03-04-2012, 11:18 PM)CryptoSOLO Wrote: I just placed my order for my first good boar brush, I cant wait!

What brand and model?

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 03-05-2012, 06:11 AM
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(03-05-2012, 12:21 AM)Teiste Wrote:
(03-04-2012, 11:01 PM)VerbaVolant Wrote:
(03-04-2012, 04:20 PM)Teiste Wrote: ...Thanks to Zach for giving me the chance to share it here...

Thank you for posting.
I am not familiar with this story but one could only hope Zach will join this forum sometime.

Hopefully he will.

(03-04-2012, 11:18 PM)CryptoSOLO Wrote: I just placed my order for my first good boar brush, I cant wait!

What brand and model?

Semogue 1305


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 03-05-2012, 10:35 AM
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  • Qhead
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  • Cleveland, Ohio
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Thanks for the detail! Interesting...maybe time to try a boar!

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 03-05-2012, 11:15 AM
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  • Johnny
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  • Wausau, Wisconsin, USA
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Teiste, thank you for posting this. I enjoyed reading it so much, I just ordered my second SOC. I figure a man should have at least two Semogue SOC brushes. One ash wood, one cherry wood.

And if you talk with Zach, please tell him he is welcomed here.

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 03-05-2012, 11:47 AM
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  • Teiste
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(03-05-2012, 06:11 AM)CryptoSOLO Wrote:
(03-05-2012, 12:21 AM)Teiste Wrote:
(03-04-2012, 11:01 PM)VerbaVolant Wrote:
(03-04-2012, 04:20 PM)Teiste Wrote: ...Thanks to Zach for giving me the chance to share it here...

Thank you for posting.
I am not familiar with this story but one could only hope Zach will join this forum sometime.

Hopefully he will.

(03-04-2012, 11:18 PM)CryptoSOLO Wrote: I just placed my order for my first good boar brush, I cant wait!

What brand and model?

Semogue 1305

Thats a great brush!

(03-05-2012, 10:35 AM)Qhead Wrote: Thanks for the detail! Interesting...maybe time to try a boar!
Yes,its time to!Biggrin
(03-05-2012, 11:15 AM)Johnny Wrote: Teiste, thank you for posting this. I enjoyed reading it so much, I just ordered my second SOC. I figure a man should have at least two Semogue SOC brushes. One ash wood, one cherry wood.

And if you talk with Zach, please tell him he is welcomed here.

It seems that you really enjoy large shaving brushes,Johnny.
Zach knows that hes more than welcome here.

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 03-05-2012, 11:58 AM
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  • Johnny
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  • Wausau, Wisconsin, USA
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Medium to large but not to large. The large Omega Pro is to large for me. The Semogue 2000 is about as large as I would want to go.

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 03-05-2012, 09:34 PM
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This is such a great reference article - should be read by ALL interested in wet shaving!

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 03-05-2012, 09:48 PM
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  • CMur12
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  • Moses Lake, Washington State, USA
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Teiste, I'm really glad to see Zach's contributions archived here.

Thanks -

- Murray

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 03-06-2012, 12:26 PM
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  • Hanzo
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  • Oakland, California
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I've read the guide a couple times over the years and it was absolutely instrumental in making me primarily a boar user. My boar line of choice is Omega.

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 03-06-2012, 08:17 PM
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(03-05-2012, 09:48 PM)CMur12 Wrote: Teiste, I'm really glad to see Zach's contributions archived here.

Thanks -

- Murray

+1

I had heard about Zach's story before, and feel badly for him.

Teiste, please relay our admiration for his work to him.

P.S. Thanks for posting this old gem.


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 03-07-2012, 06:29 AM
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(03-06-2012, 08:17 PM)redrako Wrote:
(03-05-2012, 09:48 PM)CMur12 Wrote: Teiste, I'm really glad to see Zach's contributions archived here.

Thanks -

- Murray

+1

I had heard about Zach's story before, and feel badly for him.

Teiste, please relay our admiration for his work to him.

P.S. Thanks for posting this old gem.

Great read... what is Zach's story?


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