05-08-2015, 01:17 PM
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See cocos nucifera oil vs coconut acid and its placement compared to water (aqua). Also one has sodium chloride and the other doesn't. I remember buying it in the original scent and the ingredients where the same as the fougere. Do I have an old formulation of the original or is this a new formulation?

Also, I pressed down on the one to the right and it is slightly softer.

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 05-08-2015, 02:14 PM
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Now, that is a bit interesting. I wonder if they have had to modify the formula to meet demand. However, I can't imagine them changing something that was working quite well for most folks. 

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 05-08-2015, 02:52 PM
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Coconut acid could be very similar to  Coconut oil in a soap. Hm.. now is that just a different way of listing the old ingredients?

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 05-08-2015, 02:56 PM
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(05-08-2015, 02:14 PM)celestino Wrote: Now, that is a bit interesting. I wonder if they have had to modify the formula to meet demand. However, I can't imagine them changing something that was working quite well for most folks. 
The only thing they should change are those scents

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 05-08-2015, 03:14 PM
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I read them as identical except the addition of NaCl (Common table salt). I understand soap makers sometimes add it to harden soap?

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 05-08-2015, 04:40 PM
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Don't don't bum me out man. I NEED that stuff and do not have back ups. How does it perform compared to the original formula?  Did you buy it from Paris or in the states?

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 05-08-2015, 04:43 PM
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(05-08-2015, 04:40 PM)jtmke Wrote: Don't don't bum me out man. I NEED that stuff and do not have back ups. How does it perform compared to the original formula?  Did you buy it from Paris or in the states?

I bought it from a member on the BST. I think it is probably the old formula because the instruction card is completely in French. I've not tried it yet. The scent is pretty much non-existent compared to the other formula.

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 05-08-2015, 05:04 PM
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(05-08-2015, 04:43 PM)fram773 Wrote:
(05-08-2015, 04:40 PM)jtmke Wrote: Don't don't bum me out man. I NEED that stuff and do not have back ups. How does it perform compared to the original formula?  Did you buy it from Paris or in the states?

I bought it from a member on the BST. I think it is probably the old formula because the instruction card is completely in French. I've not tried it yet. The scent is pretty much non-existent compared to the other formula.

I just bought some from a member and it had a real nice scent. However, after you apply it the scent fades very quickly. And the card in the box is in French.

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 05-08-2015, 05:08 PM
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(05-08-2015, 05:04 PM)HarryO Wrote:
(05-08-2015, 04:43 PM)fram773 Wrote:
(05-08-2015, 04:40 PM)jtmke Wrote: Don't don't bum me out man. I NEED that stuff and do not have back ups. How does it perform compared to the original formula?  Did you buy it from Paris or in the states?

I bought it from a member on the BST. I think it is probably the old formula because the instruction card is completely in French. I've not tried it yet. The scent is pretty much non-existent compared to the other formula.

I just bought some from a member and it had a real nice scent. However, after you apply it the scent fades very quickly. And the card in the box is in French.

The fougere next to it, came in broken English. Is the one you have containing coconut acid or oil?

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 05-08-2015, 05:15 PM
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(05-08-2015, 05:08 PM)fram773 Wrote:
(05-08-2015, 05:04 PM)HarryO Wrote:
(05-08-2015, 04:43 PM)fram773 Wrote: I bought it from a member on the BST. I think it is probably the old formula because the instruction card is completely in French. I've not tried it yet. The scent is pretty much non-existent compared to the other formula.

I just bought some from a member and it had a real nice scent. However, after you apply it the scent fades very quickly. And the card in the box is in French.

The fougere next to it, came in broken English. Does yours have coconut acid or oil?

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 05-08-2015, 06:11 PM
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No need to worry guys, 
Cocos nucifera = Coconut (in science/Latin speak)
and
Coconut acid = Coconut oil

When they say "acid" they are referring to the "fatty acid" aka "fat" aka "oil".  Cheers 

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 05-08-2015, 08:03 PM
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(05-08-2015, 06:11 PM)Nero Wrote: No need to worry guys, 
Cocos nucifera = Coconut (in science/Latin speak)
and
Coconut acid = Coconut oil

When they say "acid" they are referring to the "fatty acid" aka "fat" aka "oil".  Cheers 

Coconut acid is derived from coconut oil (cocos nucifera oil) http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/ingredient/7...ONUT_ACID/ but isn't 100% the same. Furthermore the placement of water as an ingredient from 2nd place to third place suggests the proportions are different.

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 05-09-2015, 05:21 AM
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The proof will be in the pudding, so the big and most important question is (at least to my MdC addicted mind), how does the lather from one compare to the other? 

Have you tried it yet?  Am VERY interested to hear your evaluation...

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 05-09-2015, 05:35 AM
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I received a jar of MdC unscented last week and a jar of fougere yesterday. Both actually came from Martin de Candre in France. The unscented is the original formula and the fougere has the new ingredient list. Have not tried the fougere yet, but the sodium chloride in the new formula is surprising as well. Isn't that more commonly used in bath soaps? 

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 05-09-2015, 10:16 AM
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I would be disappointed if they changed.  I had to stop using it for the near term as I am traveling and MdC does not really travel well going between hotels.  So hopefully this is just a fluke.

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 05-09-2015, 02:14 PM
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Relax guys.

MDC is NOT GFT or TF&H. 
TF&H and GFT have outsourced all their soaps and creams and do not make it in house at all.
Therefore you saw a great persorming TF&H soaps up until 2007-2008, then it turned to cr_ap.
Same happened with GFT soaps.

MDC makes all in house and if they make a chance to one of their best sellers, it must be for a good reason.
I believe and trust that the new MDC will perform just as well as the old version, perhaps even with better post shave feel now (just kidding)  Biggrin

I own all 3 glass pots of MDC and love them and have 2 backups bought in December 2014, have to look if they are the new reformulated versions......

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 05-13-2015, 10:38 AM
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Am I the only person who had ridiculous irritation (lasting several weeks) from using MdC? I never hear it talked about and there is no question MdC was the source of my irritation. It's actually the reason I won't even try any of the other artisans with a similar formula.

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 05-13-2015, 10:59 AM
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(05-13-2015, 10:38 AM)Nero Wrote: Am I the only person who had ridiculous irritation (lasting several weeks) from using MdC? I never hear it talked about and there is no question MdC was the source of my irritation. It's actually the reason I won't even try any of the other artisans with a similar formula.

I also had an allergic reaction to regular scent MDC. Unscented did not cause an allergic reaction - but provided poor protection/post-shave (YMMV of course). So while I wanted to love MDC - it did not work out for the two of us.

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 05-13-2015, 11:03 AM
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(05-13-2015, 10:38 AM)Nero Wrote: Am I the only person who had ridiculous irritation (lasting several weeks) from using MdC? I never hear it talked about and there is no question MdC was the source of my irritation. It's actually the reason I won't even try any of the other artisans with a similar formula.

It is more likely to be the scent IMO. 

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 05-13-2015, 11:06 AM
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Could the new ingredients listing be more of a regulatory requirement? I know that I heard recently about the EU changing its regulations for the cosmetics industry and this simply could be a byproduct of that.

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