05-20-2015, 06:06 AM
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Hi everyone,

I have been shaving with a DE for about seven years, the last five with a refinished Gillette New Long Comb with Bull handle. I love this razor but just can't shake the urge to try a straight. I have a pretty good idea what I am looking for but am having some trouble finding what my specific options might be. I wear a beard year-round, so I would like something relatively nimble. My current thought is to get either a folding 4/8 with a square point or a Kamisori-style. Either way, I would prefer a new razor and am open to a reputable custom designer if necessary. So, I have a couple of questions:

1) Although I have found a couple of (new) 4/8s, I have yet to find one with a square point. Any suggestions?
2) Other than an Iwasaki (which I am considering) are there any reputable Kamisori-style (western is fine) razors that I should look at?

I appreciate any guidance that you experts can give me.

Thanks,
MCN

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 05-20-2015, 06:29 AM
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  • Johnny
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I have a Boker 4/8 but it is a round point.  Frankly, I don't think with a 4/8 razor you need a square point for trimming.  The Boker is very nimble and will easily get in to tight places.

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 05-20-2015, 06:29 AM
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Here's a nice little 5/8 and a 4/8 square point from Revisor there's not a lot of difference really between a 5/8 and a 4/8.

http://www.revisor-solingen.de/index.php...012-detail

http://www.revisor-solingen.de/index.php...032-detail

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 05-20-2015, 06:37 AM
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Thanks gentlemen. I'll reconsider both the point and 5/8 vs 4/8.

Knowing what I'm looking for would you be more likely to reconsider the point or the size?

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 05-20-2015, 06:49 AM
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  • Johnny
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I personally would go for the 4/8.  It would seem 1/8 does not make much difference, and it doesn't between 5/8 and 6/8, but to me there is a big difference between a 4/8 and 5/8.  Just my opinion.  I bought my 4/8 for trimming/outlining, and that's what I use it for.  I use my 5/8 and larger to shave my face.

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 05-20-2015, 06:53 AM
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  • Johnny
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Boker 4/8 can be purchased here.

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 05-20-2015, 07:03 AM
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Hmmm, to me trimming is much easier with a shorter blade length.


Look for a 2.25 - 2.5 inch blade edge.

I have no trouble even with the wider blades as long as the edge is in That sweet spot for length

Also, a French point makes life good!

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 05-20-2015, 09:20 AM
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gijames, thanks for responding. Considering that (with a beard) a lot of my shaving is trimming would you lean towards a Kamisori (50mm) rather than a folding?

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 05-20-2015, 08:40 PM
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(05-20-2015, 09:20 AM)mcnshave Wrote: gijames, thanks for responding. Considering that (with a beard) a lot of my shaving is trimming would you lean towards a Kamisori (50mm) rather than a folding?

For me, absolutely yes! I find holding a kamisori / non-folding to be the easiest way to maneuver my face. Scales tend to get in the way of my vision, so I tend to hold my folders straight out too!

Also, the kamisori non-folding razors tend to have a toe similar to a French point.

IF you are leaning towards a Iwasaki,
I would suggest asking Joe Edson, or Sandor Jenes to make you a custom symmetrical grind non-folding razor.

Joe tends to have a quicker turn-around time... but always check!

Also, Joe is located in Oregon, while Jenes is in Hungary.

If you go to the thread "show some kamisori love" here in this sub-forum, you will see a couple Jenes razors and also the one Joe Edson made for me... a Bamboosori

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 05-21-2015, 01:58 AM
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  • Thug
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(05-20-2015, 06:53 AM)Johnny Wrote: Boker 4/8 can be purchased here.

Thanks for the link Johnny.

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 05-21-2015, 05:31 AM
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gijames, thanks for the helpful info. I sent requests for quotes to about a half dozen custom designers (including Joe Edson) yesterday. I will definitely take a look at Sandor Jenes too.

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 05-21-2015, 05:56 AM
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  • Johnny
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You could save time and get the real deal HERE.

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 05-21-2015, 06:07 AM
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Johnny, thanks for the insights. I would say the Iwasaki is my default depending on the quotes. However, I do like the idea of a symmetrical grind which the first two quotes that I've received provide. But, either way, the Iwasaki has an automatic spot on my list of finalists.

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