05-26-2015, 11:13 AM
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Hello guys, I have an Above the Tie R1 closed bar and an Ikon closed bar razor. Can anyone comment on the aggressiveness/efficiency compared to the Wolfman closed bar razor?

Thank you,

Tappan

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 05-26-2015, 12:53 PM
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  • Harvey
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(05-26-2015, 11:13 AM)Nevada Red Wrote: Hello guys, I have an Above the Tie R1 closed bar and an Ikon closed bar razor.  Can anyone comment on the aggressiveness/efficiency compared to the Wolfman closed bar razor?

Thank you,

Tappan

For me I prefer the Wolfman...feels smoother and more effective...I have the BBS-1 and the DC (double head). The BBS-1 is a bit more aggressive but very smooth and the Wolfman DC slightly less 'bite'..(aggressive) and I just love them both.As far as the Above the Tie I prefer the S1 and Ikon the Slant (any of them..Shavecraft 101,102 or the Ikon slant)

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 05-26-2015, 01:29 PM
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(05-26-2015, 11:13 AM)Nevada Red Wrote: Hello guys, I have an Above the Tie R1 closed bar and an Ikon closed bar razor.  Can anyone comment on the aggressiveness/efficiency compared to the Wolfman closed bar razor?

Thank you,

Tappan

Tappan,
You might want to read my review

http://shavenook.com/thread-wolfman-wr1-...#pid518374

I would further add that two months later. It has been my exclusive razor.
Ikon doesn't even qualify...was discarded long ago.
R1 ruled supreme for 18 months...

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 05-26-2015, 01:39 PM
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I am not sure I agree with the comments of the ATT R1 being more aggressive than the Wolfman WR1-SB.  I was using the ATT H1 daily after also trying out the R1 and R2 and I think the Wolfman razor is between the R1 and H1 plates, aggressive wise.  I do agree with the comments that the Wolfman razors are "efficient" as I think they are even more so than the ATT's.  To me they are more efficieint and also smoother to where I dont get irritation or if I do, it is very little and only in certain area(s) where I have the "rough spots" and no longer use the Alum block after my shave like I did with the ATT's.

I also think that between the Wolfman WR1-SB and the WR1-OC, the OC feels a little more aggressive while being smoother and very efficient!

Of course, YMMV and this is just IMO!

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 05-26-2015, 01:43 PM
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Thank you guys!! I pulled the specs on the ATT and talked to James some more. Looks like we'll give the Wolfman a tweak and should be great..!!

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 05-26-2015, 04:51 PM
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(05-26-2015, 01:39 PM)sir_mike Wrote: I am not sure I agree with the comments of the ATT R1 being more aggressive than the Wolfman WR1-SB.  I was using the ATT H1 daily after also trying out the R1 and R2 and I think the Wolfman razor is between the R1 and H1 plates, aggressive wise.  I do agree with the comments that the Wolfman razors are "efficient" as I think they are even more so than the ATT's.  To me they are more efficieint and also smoother to where I dont get irritation or if I do, it is very little and only in certain area(s) where I have the "rough spots" and no longer use the Alum block after my shave like I did with the ATT's.
I also think that between the Wolfman WR1-SB and the WR1-OC, the OC feels a little more aggressive while being smoother and very efficient!
Of course, YMMV and this is just IMO!

I completely agree with this. 

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 05-26-2015, 07:00 PM
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(05-26-2015, 01:43 PM)Nevada Red Wrote: Thank you guys!! I pulled the specs on the ATT and talked to James some more.  Looks like we'll give the Wolfman a tweak and should be great..!!

Are you trying to get more or less aggressive than the ATT R1?  Sorry if I missed that but dont recall catching that part!  Smile

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 05-26-2015, 07:56 PM
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(05-26-2015, 07:00 PM)sir_mike Wrote:
(05-26-2015, 01:43 PM)Nevada Red Wrote: Thank you guys!! I pulled the specs on the ATT and talked to James some more.  Looks like we'll give the Wolfman a tweak and should be great..!!

Are you trying to get more or less aggressive than the ATT R1?  Sorry if I missed that but dont recall catching that part!  Smile

Slightly more aggressive but not as much as the ATT H1.  

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 05-26-2015, 08:25 PM
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(05-26-2015, 07:56 PM)Nevada Red Wrote:
(05-26-2015, 07:00 PM)sir_mike Wrote:
(05-26-2015, 01:43 PM)Nevada Red Wrote: Thank you guys!! I pulled the specs on the ATT and talked to James some more.  Looks like we'll give the Wolfman a tweak and should be great..!!

Are you trying to get more or less aggressive than the ATT R1?  Sorry if I missed that but dont recall catching that part!  Smile

Slightly more aggressive but not as much as the ATT H1.  
I think you will be fine then.  You shouldnt need to have it adjusted by James but you should try it in "stock" form first and then decide.

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 05-27-2015, 11:22 AM
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How would you guys compare Wolfman to ATT S1 or S2? I think people say S1 is slightly less agressive than the R1 even though it is based off of the R1 design. So would you say Wolfman SB is more aggressive than S1?

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 05-27-2015, 04:12 PM
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(05-27-2015, 11:22 AM)Justino_14 Wrote: How would you guys compare Wolfman to ATT S1 or S2? I think people say S1 is slightly less agressive than the R1 even though it is based off of the R1 design. So would you say Wolfman SB is more aggressive than S1?

I too heard that the S1 is based off the R1 so I would say yes, the Wolfman is more aggressive.  To me it is closer to the H1.

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 05-27-2015, 06:28 PM
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Those lathes at Wolfman .... James should make them turn faster! 
Can´t wait! 

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 05-27-2015, 07:09 PM
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Been debating on getting one myself. The S1 slant just wasn't aggressive enough for me. Going to email James in the morning to"put me in the list". Hopefully it's more aggressive. I've already got DE89 heads and a 34C so I don't need another 3 pass and clean up razor Smile. I'm looking for a 2 pass and done Smile

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 05-27-2015, 07:18 PM
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(05-27-2015, 07:09 PM)jhawlz Wrote: Been debating on getting one myself. The S1 slant just wasn't aggressive enough for me. Going to email James in the morning to"put me in the list". Hopefully it's more aggressive. I've already got DE89 heads and a 34C so I don't need another 3 pass and clean up razor Smile. I'm looking for a 2 pass and done Smile

It's not a big jump in aggression from S1 to Wolfman. However very slight edge to Wolfman in efficiency . Are you looking for aggression or efficiency ? For me both razors works equally . Ymmv


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 05-27-2015, 07:35 PM
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(05-27-2015, 07:09 PM)jhawlz Wrote: Been debating on getting one myself. The S1 slant just wasn't aggressive enough for me. Going to email James in the morning to"put me in the list". Hopefully it's more aggressive. I've already got DE89 heads and a 34C so I don't need another 3 pass and clean up razor Smile. I'm looking for a 2 pass and done Smile

The Wolfman is a step out for sure in aggression!

@JHAWLZ - I agree with you 100% on the Wolfman being efficient!  I have been saying that since I started using one and I too don't think it is a "big jump" in aggressiveness but it is a jump up!


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 05-28-2015, 04:47 AM
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I tend to do a tight rope walk on using the term efficient and aggressive. Usually I think in terms of a razor being more aggressive  (more blade on the face) I'm thinking it's cutting closer hence like a R41 only taking 2 passes vs a 34C . I hadon't the S1 and I also have the 37C and to me the 37C was more efficient because it seemed more aggressive. 

I'm was surprised to learn that the Wolfmans blade gap was only .61mm and that it's a step up from a DE89 head with the DE89 by the numbers showing a greater blade gap. Maybe I'm just full of bologna, but I don't have an engineering background so I have no idea if the blade gap=more aggressive = more efficient.

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 05-28-2015, 12:05 PM
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  • Harvey
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Having tested many razors I can honestly say...forget about blade gap and just try it......some razors and blades just simply shave better and will become your favorites because you will like them better....every face and hair and soap combo change things...only trying it will give you the answers you are asking for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

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 05-29-2015, 11:17 AM
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I just finished my 2nd shave with the Wolfman DC and this is a very smooth shaving DE razor.  I have a BBS-1 and the Weber PH as well and this is a very nicely machined razor.

The weight and balance of this make me want to use it twice a day.  Too bad that will not work.  Put your name on the list and wait because you will enjoy using it for many years to come.

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 05-29-2015, 12:44 PM
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(05-29-2015, 11:17 AM)Surveyor 1953 Wrote: I just finished my 2nd shave with the Wolfman DC and this is a very smooth shaving DE razor.  I have a BBS-1 and the Weber PH as well and this is a very nicely machined razor.

The weight and balance of this make me want to use it twice a day.  Too bad that will not work.  Put your name on the list and wait because you will enjoy using it for many years to come.

How does it compare to the Weber?  I have a Weber and it's just a little too aggressive for me.  I need something between it and my Feather AS-D2.

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 05-29-2015, 01:40 PM
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(05-29-2015, 12:44 PM)DayMan Wrote:
(05-29-2015, 11:17 AM)Surveyor 1953 Wrote: I just finished my 2nd shave with the Wolfman DC and this is a very smooth shaving DE razor.  I have a BBS-1 and the Weber PH as well and this is a very nicely machined razor.

The weight and balance of this make me want to use it twice a day.  Too bad that will not work.  Put your name on the list and wait because you will enjoy using it for many years to come.

How does it compare to the Weber?  I have a Weber and it's just a little too aggressive for me.  I need something between it and my Feather AS-D2.

That is tough to say right now because of how well the Wolfman feels when you use it. I had a couple of minor weepers using a new Feather blade.  That may have been because I was rushing it and rotating between the open comb and standard bar.  After the second shave I am getting a better respect for this razor and I think that the Weber and the Wolfman are very close in aggression with the Wolfman being more comfortable.  I am going to need another week with it to really know, but for now this thing makes me smile.

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