05-27-2015, 08:45 PM
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Hello all,

It's been some time since I've made a new thread, but I couldn't pass up on this. I can't say I'm totally on the 2-band bandwagon, but I can't say I'm entirely off it either. I remembered Jarred talking about getting some 2-band brushes from VP Leonhardy, and lo and behold, yesterday I found he had put up one that is like a tulip shape, the 6800 range. I got the 680040 model. It reminds me of an old Victoria brush, except for this isn't butterscotch . I loved it when I saw it, and at 106 and the specs I really didn't think twice. Ordered an Emperor 1 at the same time as I've been wanting a smaller brush with a longer handle. Looking again today, I see that he has two extra lines of 2-band brushes up. The 800050 brush in his family line up photo looks stunning in picture 4. Babeando

Now they might not be absolute density monsters, which for myself I'm personally glad for. My custom faux horn VP has the best flow of any brush I have. I'll admit I have times when I would want a bit more density, but I have other brushes for that. It performs superbly and the handle is great. Just a shout out for anyone that might be interested!

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 05-27-2015, 10:04 PM
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I would like to try a couple of these models in the 2 band Silvertip. I have 2 of the 3 band silvertips from VP. I am thinking of trying the Plexi handle 27mm/60mm 800850 or the tulip style 680040 like you mentioned. Please post your thoughts when you get it.

Can you give more details on your custom VP in faux horn? Where did you get it and what is it like?

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 05-27-2015, 10:40 PM
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The custom VP in faux horn is from thesuperiorshave.com. I got it back sometime in late 2014 if I remember right. It is a very soft silvertip badger brush with an excellent, ergonomic handle. Shavemac used to have this handle, but then it went off the site, and Bernd didn't know what I was trying to describe. This has a quasi-glue bump. I can feel some epoxy stiffness on the outside, but the brush itself feels very open. It's unusual in that it usually feels spot on for density for me, but then I have days to where it feels slightly unsatisfactory. No where near Vulfix Super floppy. The hair is very fine tipped. A fairly close approximation of the custom faux horn VP as Jarred calls it on his site is like a tighter, slightly smaller 3824 with the original long loft. Very soft, excellent flow, decent density, okay backbone. This isn't for those that like a face scrubber of course, but excellent at just light, circular motions on the face with enough resistance to feel it. Like a puffy cloud almost. Oddly, the Savile Row feels like it has more backbone in use than the VP, but the VP feels so good in it's own right I've been considering a 700650 for occasional use. The plexi model looks awesome but know it wouldn't be good for use for me. I will post impressions when I get it.

Make it 5 models now. I didn't notice they have a Plexi 2-bander! It's right between the two plexis on the VP main page.

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 05-28-2015, 02:35 AM
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Oh no, not another brush I have to try. Angel  I have The Superior Shave's custom blue handle VP Leonhardy silvertip and love it. I find its face-feel very similar to that of the Kent BK4, but with a tad more backbone.  Overall, a beautiful brush in form and function, so their 2-band (especially with the Tulip-like handle) is a must have in my book.

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 05-28-2015, 04:08 AM
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The new 6800 series caught my attention.  I like the handle shape, as well as the knot diameter and loft on the 680040.   When you get the brush, would you please post pictures and comment on the handle finish?  The 7000 series have handles which are described as hand painted spun polyester, and it's not clear to me if the 6800 series are also made of the same material.  The Superior Shave ships very fast, so you will have your brush quickly. 

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 05-28-2015, 07:26 AM
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I think I know what my birthday present(s?) to myself will be this year! 

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 05-28-2015, 12:37 PM
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looks like they added many models in two bands! Would love to try their 2 and 3 band and compare! Might be a bit costly!!

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 05-28-2015, 04:27 PM
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I pulled the trigger today by buying 700050 and 800050 for comparison and collection.

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 05-28-2015, 04:30 PM
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(05-28-2015, 04:27 PM)s869010 Wrote: I pulled the trigger today by buying 700050 and 800050 for comparison and collection.

Pictures and a review please!

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 05-28-2015, 04:30 PM
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(05-28-2015, 04:27 PM)s869010 Wrote: I pulled the trigger today by buying 700050 and 800050 for comparison and collection.

Very nice. Please let us know your thoughts

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 05-28-2015, 05:53 PM
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(05-28-2015, 04:30 PM)TheLegalRazor Wrote:
(05-28-2015, 04:27 PM)s869010 Wrote: I pulled the trigger today by buying 700050 and 800050 for comparison and collection.

Pictures and a review please!

+1

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 05-28-2015, 07:19 PM
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(05-28-2015, 04:08 AM)TheLegalRazor Wrote: The new 6800 series caught my attention.  I like the handle shape, as well as the knot diameter and loft on the 680040.   When you get the brush, would you please post pictures and comment on the handle finish?  The 7000 series have handles which are described as hand painted spun polyester, and it's not clear to me if the 6800 series are also made of the same material.  The Superior Shave ships very fast, so you will have your brush quickly. 

I'll try my best to post pictures. It might get delayed though. I've been very busy. Comments I will post for sure!

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 05-28-2015, 11:36 PM
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Sure! I'll share my thoughts as long as I received and tried them.

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 05-29-2015, 09:34 AM
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(05-28-2015, 02:35 AM)Rufus Wrote: Oh no, not another brush I have to try. Angel  I have The Superior Shave's custom blue handle VP Leonhardy silvertip and love it. I find its face-feel very similar to that of the Kent BK4, but with a tad more backbone.  Overall, a beautiful brush in form and function, so their 2-band (especially with the Tulip-like handle) is a must have in my book.

I just placed an order for a 680020 and I've already received the shipping confirmation.  I love the look of this brush. Biggrin

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 05-29-2015, 10:55 AM
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Are VP Leonhardy brushes comparable to Simpson's? Because nothing beat Simpsons as far as I am concerned. Naturally, there is a gradient in the quality and, proportionally, in the price. So, I am just wandering if one can match the high-end VP Leonhardy's to a certain grade of Simpsons, sort of a relative comparison table. Many thanks for any suggestions because I am looking forward for acquiring a VP brush.

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 05-29-2015, 07:00 PM
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Lady luck smiled upon me and I already have both my Emperor 1 and 680040! I'll update in a bit with some photos and initial impressions with first use.

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 05-29-2015, 08:20 PM
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So, I just managed to use the 680040 now for the first time. Photo upon arrival with his traveling buddy, an Emperor 1. Biggrin

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Here is a photo of the 680040 next to the custom faux horn VP I got from thesuperiorshave.com before this 2-band VP. It was used yesterday.

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This isn't like the typical 2-bands that I've used. I didn't realize how many I have now even, but I used to have more even.

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I enjoyed using this brush very much. It has more resiliency than the 3-band hair from VP for sure. It helps that the 680040 has 49mm loft and 22.5mm knot vs the faux horn's 55mm loft with a 22mm knot. I was able to use it vigorously for face lathering and get a good sensation from it. No real prickliness. A little bit of a nice scrubby feeling somewhat like Manchurian, but not there entirely. Even the less dense Simfix has more of that scrubby feeling. Nothing harsh or aggravating though. The backbone reminds me of El Toro Ganso, the Vie-long custom Phil had sometime back, but this VP has more backbone than that hair did. The former did have more springiness, but this comes decently close. Nothing like the 2-band D01 next to the Finest, and the Finest I have is not like the Rooney Finest of old. Even the 2-band D01 still doesn't hold a candle on the backbone of Finest, and Finest had a better face feel to me. That 2-band D01 sure is nice though when you haven't shaved for awhile though! The 680040 has good flowthrough, but not as good as the Manchurian knots, or the 2-band Silvertip from Shavemac. Density wise, I like it right where it's at. For those that like exceptionally dense they won't like it as much. For me though, again, this hits a sweet spot. If I had to say just one thing about it, this is like a 2.5 band. It's right there between 2-band and 3-band for me.

This handle material isn't as nice as the Simpson handle material initially. I feel like it will win me over the more I use it though. I personally like this grade of hair and thing it's great. I have a feeling the 3-band VP I've been wanting will be too impractical in use, but a 2-band VP would have more practicality and be able to use it more. In terms of the hair itself and how each knot is made, I have nothing bad to say. This is great stuff at a great price. As long as you aren't looking for super dense and wire brush stiffness backbone, I think anyone would be well pleased with these! Out of the 2-bands that i have at the moment, the Simfix would probably be the closest comparison out of my current line up. The handle of the VP is better too compared to those two. My Simfix has some handle imperfections I still don't like, but they've been growing on me. It was the last one left, and I sure wasn't going to return it! lol

One last thought, the 680040 is better functionally than a Simpson Tulip 2 2-band that I had. That had the pointiest knot I ever had. I won't say the harshest as I had some pures that were worse. I had the impression this would be bigger like an old Victoria tulip-esque handle brush I had, but stats and pictures do little to reveal the same size. This is a smidge bigger than my old Tulip 2.

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 05-31-2015, 06:36 AM
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Beautiful brushes. Thank you for the feedback. I think I am gonna pull the trigger one of these days on a VP 3 band

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 05-31-2015, 07:39 AM
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Very thorough write-up Joe. I'm curious if the handle will grow on you.

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 05-31-2015, 10:09 PM
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(05-31-2015, 07:39 AM)shevek Wrote: Very thorough write-up Joe. I'm curious if the handle will grow on you.

It's growing on me slightly more. In terms of looks it doesn't seem better, but functionally works. I used it today with the Emperor 1 and it seemed like it had just slightly better tactile feeling when wet at first. I then do what I usually do to help with grip by touching my fingers to my alum block, and didn't have to worry and negated that seemed benefit. I would say I enjoyed using the VP functionally better though. I like this hair and believe a larger one will win out. I'm waiting for the 700050 vs 800050 comparison. Smile

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