06-06-2015, 12:09 AM
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From left to right VP 800050, VP 700050, Thater 4125/5 two ban fan

VP 700050:
3 band, tall loft, not floppy with adequate backbone, nice lather ability and water holding ability.
Less dense then Thater. 
But the smoothness of tip almost the same.

VP 800050:
A little bit scratchy and feel less dense then 700050.
Shorter loft and weight less then 700050.
Backbone stronger then 700050 and 4125.
Latherbility and water retention are both good.

My personal rating is: Thater = 700050 > 800050 = Vie Long two band badger (not shown here).

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 06-06-2015, 02:19 PM
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Beautiful brushes! I think I'm getting past my reservations I had about the handle and coming to quite like it!

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 06-06-2015, 03:00 PM
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Lovely brushes. I like that 3 band a lot too! Smile

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 06-07-2015, 06:39 AM
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  • Andrew
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I think the VP Leonhardy 3-band Super Silvertip is one of the best knots on the market, at a fair price.

Edit: I meant Premium Silvertip, not Super Silvertip.

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 06-08-2015, 07:38 AM
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The more I use 700050, the more I like it.

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 06-08-2015, 08:10 AM
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  • Rufus
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(06-07-2015, 06:39 AM)Andrew Wrote: QI think the VP Leonhardy 3-band Super Silvertip is one of the best knots on the market, at a fair price.


Andrew

Hear, hear.  

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 06-08-2015, 10:19 AM
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Lovely brushes. I am very interested in the 3 band VP. Would love to hear more thoughts regarding it! Hopefully sometime this week I will receive the 700030 from a very generous member here to try and I will post my thoughts and comparison to Plisson HMW

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 06-08-2015, 02:29 PM
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  • Andrew
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I need to make a correction to my stated opinion above - I meant VP Leonhardy Premium Silvertip, not Super Silvertip (I don't know if they use the term Super).

VPL premium and Plisson HMW knots are similarly tied with a tall loft and bulb shape. So I find more in common between these two brands and hair grades than comparing to others. In my experience, VPL premium Silvertip hair has softer tips and less stiffness in the shaft. The VPL knots seem to be a little more densely packed. This results in a larger bloom, hence a larger feeling brush at a given knot diameter. The Plisson HMW hair seems to have a stiffer shaft, and early in use, the tips offer a little scritch. After months of use, this scritch is disappearing. The Plisson knots don't bloom nearly to the extent that VPLs do, but maintain a surprisingly compact form for their relatively tall lofts.


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 06-08-2015, 03:56 PM
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Wo Andrew. This is an excellent very detailed comparison. Thank you very much for the info

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 06-13-2015, 08:37 AM
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  • pc4406
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Has anyone tried the new 6800 series of 2 band?

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 06-13-2015, 10:40 AM
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(06-13-2015, 08:37 AM)pc4406 Wrote: Has anyone tried the new 6800 series of 2 band?

I have a 680020, the smallest of the series.  As I've used it only three times, my comments are preliminary.  First, I like the size of the brush, the shape of the handle and how it feels in my hand.  The brush has backbone, but is not overly dense, as some Simpson brushes are, and has good flow through.  The tips are softish, but not like those of my shavemac 3-band, and seem to have a slight prickle to them, but this may change with use.  I also have a VPL premium Sivertip brush with the blue handle from The Superior Shave, which is similar to the 700720, but with a tad more backbone.  My initial assessment is that I prefer the blue handle to the 680020, because its longer loft and 3-band hair gives it a more luxurious feel; however, some people would find the blue handle too floppy.  Nevertheless, the 680020 is a keeper and I expect its face feel to change with greater use.

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 06-13-2015, 10:56 AM
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  • pc4406
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Thanks, Bryan. I have a 700030 and really like it. It is what luxury is supposed to feel like. I like the looks of the Tulip style handle of the 6800 and wondered about its face feel and the bloom size of the knot.

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 06-13-2015, 11:02 AM
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(06-13-2015, 10:56 AM)pc4406 Wrote: Thanks, Bryan. I have a 700030 and really like it. It is what luxury is supposed to feel like. I like the looks of the Tulip style handle of the 6800 and wondered about its face feel and the bloom size of the knot.

So far my 680020 has not bloomed nearly as much as my blue handle, but this is to be expected because of the shorter loft.

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 06-13-2015, 09:21 PM
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(06-13-2015, 08:37 AM)pc4406 Wrote: Has anyone tried the new 6800 series of 2 band?

http://shavenook.com/showthread.php?tid=32050

I have the largest of the 3. See above thread for more details. As a sidenote, I went the route the OP went and got the 700050 and 800050. Angel

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