06-16-2012, 03:27 PM
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  • Teiste
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There is a lot written about the Morris and Forndran "blonde badger" shaving brushes (two band badger hair) and these brushes have made a lot of people, faithful followers of them,however,is life beyond "blonde badger" for Morris and Forndran?Well,it seems there is,and much better than I was expecting,to be honest.

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This brush have arrived to me from a good friend (Thanks Andrew!),who,by the way,knows Mr Lee Sabini personally,for what I understand.Mr Lee Sabini is the man who used to be behind Rooney (and maybe he still is) and now the artisan who is making the Morris and Forndran shaving brushes.

This brush has a knot of 25mm and a loft of 51/52mm,which makes it a big shaving brush,on the medium zone.

The hair density of this brush is quiet high,maybe not as a Simpson or shavemac D01,but really close enough...

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And how does it behaves?I would say like a KIM SON VU shaving brush,but with more backbone.This is a "luxurious" shaving brush,with velvety soft tips and a perfect amount of backbone and flow,which makes it a pleasure to use it with circular movements on the face.

Since it has a good loft for the kind of hair used (super badger three band) the brush doesnt blooms too much,which is perfect for facelathering with circular strokes,and,of course,keeps a good firmness or hair.A luxury of a brush!

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The handle is also really ergonomic,easy to hold,like a Rooney 1/2 style,and also its heavy,like a Semogue 2040 HD brush.I really like its shape and its balance.

This brush behaves really well when is used wih triple milled shaving soap than creams,face or bowl lathering...it makes thick lather in no time,but also its a little bit of a lather hog,something usual in brushes with this high density of hair.Use more product and end of the problem.Biggrin

This is truly a luxurious brush,like a shavemac D01 silvertip,Vie Long silvertip or even the Kim Son Vu shaving brushes,which treats you very well,due to the super soft velvety tips and the high density of hair working together offering you a pleasant experience.

Im afraid that there is life beyond two band badger hair,and this life could be even better for many,as Im re discovering myself and truly enjoying it.

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 06-16-2012, 03:31 PM
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  • ben74
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Great review Teiste!

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 06-16-2012, 03:36 PM
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wow, that handle is SEXY!

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 06-16-2012, 04:02 PM
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love the handle...

is that a NEW logo? or just a variation?

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 06-16-2012, 04:29 PM
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  • ben74
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I'm a fan of the clear M&F handles too!

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 06-16-2012, 05:06 PM
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  • mikeperry
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Teiste, that's a beautiful looking brush Thumbsup

I must say I find the whole mystic surrounding Rooney to be intriguing...

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 06-16-2012, 05:18 PM
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  • tgutc
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That handle is beautiful.

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 06-16-2012, 05:26 PM
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  • ben74
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I have a few 3 band badgers from Lee...

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Although the "Tulip" has found a new home!

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 06-16-2012, 05:50 PM
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  • Andrew
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Gents,

Sometime in early 2011, when I had ordered my third Blonde Badger from Mr. Sabini, I asked him if he had anything interesting in 3-band Super. He said that he'd received a small sample of hair to try in a few brushes (enough for three), and that he was trying to decide whether or not to order more. He also wanted to try out a new logo. And the end result was this brush. It is one of the few "never sell" brushes in my den (Mr. Sabini has a habit of making "never sell" brushes for me). I love Teiste's reviews and his photos, and I happily sent him this brush to see what he thought.

Unfortunately for you prospective Morris & Forndran customers, I do not think you will be able to buy a brush like this from Mr. Sabini, unless he has decided to buy more of this hair (that was over a year ago). I have three 3-band brushes of Mr. Sabini's, all of them different. I'll share photos of the other two below.

Teiste, I agree with everything you have said in this review. I have no experience with Kim Son Vu or Shavemac D01, but I don't think I'll need any. Beautiful pictures, as always, and so fun to share with you.

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 06-16-2012, 05:53 PM
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I consider myself rather fortunate then Andrew.

Here are a few more of my 3 bands from Lee...

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 06-16-2012, 05:55 PM
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  • Johnny
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Nothing to do with the quality of the brush, but I prefer the signature logo as opposed to the one shown in Teiste's pictures.

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 06-16-2012, 06:01 PM
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  • ben74
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(06-16-2012, 05:55 PM)Johnny Wrote: Nothing to do with the quality of the brush, but I prefer the signature logo as opposed to the one shown in Teiste's pictures.

I prefer the other logo as well.
I don't own any with the logo as on the brush reviewed by Teiste.
(And I own quite a few... )

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 06-16-2012, 06:10 PM
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  • Andrew
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I didn't mean to give the impression that 3-band Morris & Forndran brushes are difficult to come by. Mr. Sabini certainly makes and sells 3-band brushes. But not with the same type of hair in this clear acrylic handle brush. He said he was able to make three brushes with it. I don't know what became of the other two. If he had more of this hair, I'd have ordered a couple more brushes like this from him when I had the chance.

As for other 3-band Morris & Forndrans, I know Lee has made a few brushes with old Rooney Heritage 3-band hair like the Stubby 3 ivory fleck handle on the right:

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Texbilly currently has this brush on loan from me, and it is pictured here with a barrel brush he purchased from me. I hope he is enjoying both of them.

Another 3-band Lee has used is similar if not the same as the 3-band Super used in Rooney brushes. This small brush with sterling silver on the handle is one such brush:

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I think (but I may be mistaken) the majority of M&F 3-band brushes out there have this type of hair in them. All three 3-band hair types are distinctly different. The hair in the brush Teiste has reviewed here has the softest tips with the greatest backbone of these three brushes of mine. It is not as densely packed, so it has excellent flow through. This brush is the reason I sold my Thater 4125/2. Everything I liked about the Thater, this brush does better (for me).

Ben has a lot of these Morris & Forndran 3-bands. Ben, share with us some of your thoughts on differences in the hair between your M&F 3-bands and your thoughts on the performance of the brushes you may have used.

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 06-16-2012, 06:18 PM
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Great review, Teiste!

Wow, Andrew, those are lovely brushes!

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 06-16-2012, 06:27 PM
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Excellent review my friend!

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 06-16-2012, 06:36 PM
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  • ben74
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I have quite a few M&F brushes...

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So, it's difficult to keep up with all the hair variations.

I believe my 3 bands are Heritage and Super.
They certainly perform similarly to their Rooney comparisons.
The major difference is the customisation (handle material, knot dimension etc) which is the cornerstone of Lee's quasi bespoke business model.

It is entirely possible you have a special 3 band that I have not encountered.
I have seen that logo before and available from vendors, not necessarily exclusively from Lee, no doubt the hair is entirely different from the ones I saw at resellers though.

Congratulations Andrew on a fine brush!
The majority of my M&F brushes are keepers too (but I've let a few go recently).
I enjoyed correspondence from Lee for quite some time, but recently I've not had any response to my emails... Perhaps you could send him my best wishes when next you speak.

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 06-16-2012, 06:43 PM
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  • Johnny
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I need to block this thread from my view. I cannot afford to look at it.Sad

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 06-16-2012, 06:48 PM
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  • Andrew
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Ha! Ben, you know better than anyone what an email from Lee results in. I haven't been in touch with him in some time, either. Perhaps he is busy enough to need an assistant to manage his emails? I consider myself fortunate to have the brushes from him that I do. And I consider you an extraordinarily lucky guy, Ben. Bravo to that collection!

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 06-16-2012, 07:06 PM
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(06-16-2012, 06:48 PM)Andrew Wrote: Ha! Ben, you know better than anyone what an email from Lee results in.

Yes I do...

This:

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(06-16-2012, 06:48 PM)Andrew Wrote: Perhaps he is busy enough to need an assistant to manage his emails?

Definitely!

(06-16-2012, 06:48 PM)Andrew Wrote: I consider myself fortunate to have the brushes from him that I do. And I consider you an extraordinarily lucky guy, Ben. Bravo to that collection!

As do I!

Great brushes from a good man.

Bravo to M&F!

(06-16-2012, 06:43 PM)Johnny Wrote: I need to block this thread from my view. I cannot afford to look at it.Sad

Sorry Johnny... Sad I thought you wanted more family pics! Tongue

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 06-17-2012, 03:22 AM
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That's an army of M&F's, Ben!

Thanks for excellent reviews guys.

Knew I shouldn't have opened this thread Smile

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