06-11-2015, 06:43 PM
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for those with experience, how do these three compare? if you have experience with the shavemac vs morris + forndran or shavemac vs simpson, i'd like to know that, too.

i'm sizing up a custom brush and wanting a 28mm d01 knot to put in it. i'm leaning towards the 2 band hair, but if there's a case for the three band, i'm all ears. thanks, everyone, and i can't want to post pictures of the brush!

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 06-11-2015, 08:27 PM
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I've used all three you mention and up until last night I would have given the nod to the M&F, but I received my Shavemac with the silvertip two band and it is hands down the best knot I have ever used, ever!!! It is that good, amazing backbone but with soft tips and excellent flow through.

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 06-11-2015, 08:41 PM
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M&F Finest. It's a subjective thing of course but for me......... but they're all great of course, it's all high quality fur how could you go wrong?

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 06-12-2015, 03:46 AM
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Another vote for Shavemac Silvertip two-band, better than D01 or M&F finest imho. The silverip two-band has soft tips, great backbone, and amazing flow-thru.  Simpson Manchurian comes very close, but at a much higher price.

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 06-12-2015, 04:09 AM
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Simpson Manchurian does come close but the Shavemac 2-band has perfect backbone, soft tips and wonderful flow-through as David mentioned.  Reasonably priced for what I consider the best badger hair on the market right now.

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 06-12-2015, 06:25 AM
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M&F Finest = Very soft tips with very good backbone; inconsistency with softness of tips; I have used a few that can be a tad 'scritchy'; great knots

Manchurian = great backbone with very soft tips and 'scrub' depending on how large the knot you have

Shavemac D-01 2-Band = strongest backbone of all badgers that I have tried; depending on your skin type, you may find this hair to be 'scritchy'. I tried a few, but they were too much for me and I had to sell them. I just sold one from an older batch that was nice and soft with great scrub.

Shavemac Silvertip 2-Band = strong backbone with some of the softest tips you will find; almost 'gel-like'.  

If you are thinking of getting one of these four, I would highly recommend the last one to pamper yourself only as it is the least expensive of the four and nothing more, really, as this is all very subjective. Good luck. Smile

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 06-12-2015, 07:01 AM
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(06-12-2015, 06:25 AM)celestino Wrote: M&F Finest = Very soft tips with very good backbone; inconsistency with softness of tips; I have used a few that can be a tad 'scritchy'; great knots

Manchurian = great backbone with very soft tips and 'scrub' depending on how large the knot you have

Shavemac D-01 2-Band = strongest backbone of all badgers that I have tried; depending on your skin type, you may find this hair to be 'scritchy'. I tried a few, but they were too much for me and I had to sell them. I just sold one from an older batch that was nice and soft with great scrub.

Shavemac Silvertip 2-Band = strong backbone with some of the softest tips you will find; almost 'gel-like'.  

If you are thinking of getting one of these four, I would highly recommend the last one to pamper yourself.
+1 celestino, except Simpson manchurian is tops in my den now followed by shavemac silvertip?

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 06-12-2015, 07:05 AM
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Current batch of simpson Manchurian is amazing plus knot quality is second to none .
Shavemac is second close , new 2 band silver tip fan shape is amazing. Please consider shavemac 2 band silver tip for budget conscious purchase .

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 06-12-2015, 09:19 AM
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Just to confuse you even more...I'll add the Thater 4125 2 band series to the mix. 

I prefer the Thater to the 3 brushes you list. It has the best combination of soft tips, moderate backbone, great flow through and perfect bulb shape. Also less expensive than M&F and Simpson. On par price-wise with Shavemac. 

I have just today ordered my first Shavemac 2 band Silvertip and looking forward to it based on reviews here on TSN. 

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 06-12-2015, 09:22 AM
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That's a good choice Ron, I've been enjoying my shavemac 2 band since recieveing it. It reminds me a lot of the thater you traded me.

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 06-12-2015, 09:29 AM
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(06-12-2015, 09:19 AM)Steelman Wrote: Just to confuse you even more...I'll add the Thater 4125 2 band series to the mix. 

I prefer the Thater to the 3 brushes you list. It has the best combination of soft tips, moderate backbone, great flow through and perfect bulb shape. Also less expensive than M&F and Simpson. On par price-wise with Shavemac. 

I have just today ordered my first Shavemac 2 band Silvertip and looking forward to it based on reviews here on TSN. 

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 06-12-2015, 09:39 AM
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(06-12-2015, 09:22 AM)essrbc11 Wrote: That's a good choice Ron, I've been enjoying my shavemac 2 band since recieveing it. It reminds me a lot of the thater you traded me.


If it's anything like the Thater, I'll be VERY happy Biggrin

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 06-12-2015, 09:42 AM
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(06-12-2015, 09:39 AM)Steelman Wrote:
(06-12-2015, 09:22 AM)essrbc11 Wrote: That's a good choice Ron, I've been enjoying my shavemac 2 band since recieveing it. It reminds me a lot of the thater you traded me.


If it's anything like the Thater, I'll be VERY happy Biggrin
Yep that thater is luxurious?. Which shavemac handle did you get?

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 06-12-2015, 11:25 AM
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(06-12-2015, 09:42 AM)essrbc11 Wrote:
(06-12-2015, 09:39 AM)Steelman Wrote:
(06-12-2015, 09:22 AM)essrbc11 Wrote: That's a good choice Ron, I've been enjoying my shavemac 2 band since recieveing it. It reminds me a lot of the thater you traded me.


If it's anything like the Thater, I'll be VERY happy Biggrin
Yep that thater is luxurious?. Which shavemac handle did you get?
the #90 with a larger knot.

OK sorry to hijack this thread...let's resume the M&F/Simpson's/Shavemac D01 battle!

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 06-12-2015, 01:19 PM
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no worries, guys, thanks to everyone for weighing in!

i'm asking because i have a couple morris + forndran finests and have used - and will soon be purchasing - a simpsons manchurian. to commemorate the selling of my condo (which i'm actually very sad about, that place was my biggest dream realized), i'm going to commission a brush from rudy vey. having never used the shavemac knot specified, i wanted to know how it compares to the other two.

also, i think commemorate is a pretty generous term to use. appears my BAD justification is showing...

edit: just noticed a couple votes for the 2 band silvertip vs d01 2 band. is the only difference the density?

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 06-12-2015, 02:09 PM
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if you want soft tips, you should consider a simpson super 2band!

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 06-12-2015, 02:11 PM
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i missed that pretty little polo 8 in the classifieds =\

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 06-12-2015, 03:27 PM
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I think Celestino hit the nail on the head.
M&F finest is inconsistent but if you get lucky with a good one they are very good. Nice and soft, excellent backbone but in my experience the flow through was always lacking unless you get a 24mm knot, but still shavemac 2 band silvertip has better flow through.
Shavemac silvertip 2 band- excellent brush at excellent price, very consistent, amazing soft tips, excellent backbone and excellent flow through. Both fan and bulb shape are wonderful. Bulb has more backbone but I liked the fan better
Shavemac D01- very strong backbone. Really disliked it since I don't like too strong backbone. Also found it way too scritchy couldn't use it at all.
If I may suggest an excellent brush, Romera Manchurian fan- softest badger hair I tried so far, excellent backbone and excellent flow through and very reasonably priced. My favorite badger brush
Simpson manchurian- never tried one

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 06-12-2015, 03:53 PM
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I would like to add the M&F finest has the largest degree of variation. I've used a finest that was similar to blonde but scritchier, I've used some that were close to heritage but softer. Huge range here.

The d01 two band Americana I used had a ridiculous amount hair resiliency. Minimal splay, even when applying a fair amount of pressure. The knot felt small to me because of this. A 24mm brush that felt more like 20-22. It whipped up a great lather but the face feel was not for me, too concentrated due t the lack of splay.

Simpsons Manchurian is my current favorite. I've tried their current batch in a chubby 2 and two chubby 3 brushes. They have the perfect balance of backbone, flowthrough and softness. It's a rather large brush but that's how I like them. By the way, you pay a premium for this line of brushes.

I currently have a shavemac two band Silvertip on order. It should arrive next week. It's a 30x50 fan with a 173 butterscotch handle. When I receive it, it will go head to head with the current lather king in my den!

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 06-12-2015, 04:03 PM
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I would avoid the D01 and get the newer silvertip two-band.  

I had Rudy make a brush for me with this knot and I liked it so much, I've ordered another one.  Backbone is excellent for face-lathering hard soaps, but still flexible enough so that you get excellent flow-thru.

Just an fyi, I have not tried the fan knot, just bulb set at a 1:2.1 ratio, which is perfect for me.

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