06-13-2015, 12:00 AM
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Tried to test lather SV today and had a bit of trouble. The lather was a little airy and dried up. Might have just been a case of not loading enough. I've been reading about a few people having a bit of trouble with this soap so was wondering if there is any suggestions one could provide me as I don't have much experience with triple milled soaps.

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 06-13-2015, 12:47 AM
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One of the most common causes is, as you say, inadequate loading. I have used this soap a few times now and the resulting lather has always been very thick. Wet the surface of the soap with warm water before loading, and load for a good 30-40 seconds, if not longer. Is this a new, unused puck? Quite possibly, also, you need to break through the surface layer. Your next attempts could be just fine.

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 06-13-2015, 01:22 AM
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Good advice from David. The first few times I used it I got similar results. The solution was load the brush heavier, add work the lather more while adding more water. Keep at it you'll get it.


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 06-13-2015, 01:33 AM
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I found blooming the puck helped immensely with this soap. SV needs a little bit of help to get it going.

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 06-13-2015, 04:28 AM
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(06-13-2015, 12:47 AM)Optometrist Wrote: One of the most common causes is, as you say, inadequate loading. I have used this soap a few times now and the resulting lather has always been very thick. Wet the surface of the soap with warm water before loading, and load for a good 30-40 seconds, if not longer. Is this a new, unused puck? Quite possibly, also, you need to break through the surface layer. Your next attempts could be just fine.

+1 on what David said. I would just add that before loading the soap you might want to shake off as much water as possible from your thoroughly soaked brush. Then add a small amount of water (a few drops) at a time while working up the lather. Always produced excellent results for me. 

This soap is exceptionally good and once you have your procedure figured out, you will enjoy it tremendously!

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 06-13-2015, 07:11 AM
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I find their soaps like a LOT of water during the loading process. If you do this, then when you build the lather it will already have its hydration and will just become denser as you work it.

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 06-13-2015, 07:17 AM
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(06-13-2015, 07:11 AM)Nero Wrote: I find their soaps like a LOT of water during the loading process. If you do this, then when you build the lather it will already have its hydration and will just become denser as you work it.

I will give this method a try! With a drier brush it was just less messy and I could control the amount of water well.   Shy

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 06-13-2015, 07:37 AM
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Just load it like you hate it. Works with all soaps.
Start out dry with an abundance of soap in the brush. Then add drops of water little by little to the tips of the brush.

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 06-13-2015, 07:53 AM
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(06-13-2015, 01:33 AM)lestorfreemon Wrote: I found blooming the puck helped immensely with this soap. SV needs a little bit of help to get it going.

I found I prefer the same. The soap likes water during the lathering so it doesn't hurt to soften and moisten the surface of the soap. A little water on the puck when you prep all your hardware or during the shower and then I like to pour that into the breach of the brush. Then when you are bowl or face lathering, you can add a bit of water 3-5 times. That is usually when I find the sweet spot for the lather! I had the same issues when I first used this soap but now it is currently my favorite and most consistent performer.

I can also highly recommend the preshave oil and AS balsam.

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 06-13-2015, 08:28 AM
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(06-13-2015, 07:37 AM)CHSeifert Wrote: Just load it like you hate it. Works with all soaps.
Start out dry with an abundance of soap in the brush. Then add drops of water little by little to the tips of the brush.

+1

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 06-13-2015, 11:04 AM
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As they say, load for longer and add more water! Works every time! Good luck.

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 06-13-2015, 04:33 PM
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I start with damp brush, load for about 10 seconds, then add a little bit of water to the brush and load for 10 more seconds. I do this 3-4 times and it works very well for me.
I noticed this soap cracks much like MWF in my bathroom, anyone experienced the same ?

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 06-13-2015, 05:29 PM
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(06-13-2015, 04:33 PM)mainaman Wrote: I start with damp brush, load for about 10 seconds, then add a little bit of water to the brush and load for 10 more seconds. I do this 3-4 times and it works very well for me.
I noticed this soap cracks much like MWF in my bathroom, anyone experienced the same ?

My Felce has the cracked look, but the manna never got like that.

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 06-13-2015, 06:07 PM
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(06-13-2015, 05:29 PM)Ellas318 Wrote:
(06-13-2015, 04:33 PM)mainaman Wrote: I start with damp brush, load for about 10 seconds, then add a little bit of water to the brush and load for 10 more seconds. I do this 3-4 times and it works very well for me.
I noticed this soap cracks much like MWF in my bathroom, anyone experienced the same ?

My Felce has the cracked look, but the manna never got like that.

I have Manna, does not bother me really. Just can't remember seeing other hard soaps(except MWF) crack like that

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 06-13-2015, 07:04 PM
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Yes, my Felce and Dolomiti both have the spiderweb cracking look. Does not bother me either.

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 06-14-2015, 08:36 AM
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I soak My brush for about 10 minutes then flick not squeeze the water out. Load on top of the dry puck ( I do not add water on top of puck ) until I build enough proto lather to my liking them I take it to a bowl and lather. I find this soap bowl lathers better than face lathers and I add water as I lather to my liking very good soap.

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 06-17-2015, 07:23 PM
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Thanks for all of the great suggestions. I ended up grating my puck into a larger container just b/c I really dislike the PET plastic container it comes in, and I didn't end up spending the extra money on the wooden bowl. Using the plastic cup it came it was just messy for the most part and harder to load for me.

I ended up having problems until I tried using distilled water. The lather was a lot better but still a tiny bit airy, nothing like before though, I would say shave worthy for sure. I will have to continue to play around with it. I spent a good 2 minutes loading the brush and the lather looked a lot better, and I don't think the grating hurt it at all, probably helped soften up the soap a little.

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 06-17-2015, 07:26 PM
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Just get SV manna and you don't need to load much . 10 seconds load will give you enough for three passes .
SV manna is amazing


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 06-17-2015, 07:30 PM
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(06-17-2015, 07:26 PM)Cricket203 Wrote: Just get SV manna and you don't need to load much . 10 seconds load will give you enough for three passes .
SV manna is amazing


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Does it lather differently than the other 2?

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 06-17-2015, 07:34 PM
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(06-17-2015, 07:30 PM)Justino_14 Wrote:
(06-17-2015, 07:26 PM)Cricket203 Wrote: Just get SV manna and you don't need to load much . 10 seconds load will give you enough for three passes .
SV manna is amazing


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Does it lather differently than the other 2?

Yes !! Manna is the difference . SV used manna (ingredient)and that did some trick. Remember all three soaps has different ingredients . I owned all three version Felce, dolmati and manna . To me manna is just pure awesome. It create a lot of leather with no effort. You must try!!


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