06-19-2015, 11:14 AM
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Just saw this online, looks like Razorock has a new stainless steel prototype in the works with a razor head that looks like it uses the Above the Tie style pins (on the base plate rather than top cap) to secure the blade. Joe is talking it up as a game changer because of a new indestructable finish and the "hightest tolerances" he's ever seen on a razor. Curious to see pricing and finish if it ever comes to market.

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 06-19-2015, 11:16 AM
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 06-19-2015, 11:19 AM
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(06-19-2015, 11:16 AM)Bruce Wrote: Icon_popcorn

LOL, let the fun begin. Seriously though, not trying to start another RR love/hate thread, just wanted to share.

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 06-19-2015, 11:25 AM
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LOL.  Wish there were more pictures and maybe I can get my hands on this as I wanted to try the baby smooth.

One thing though "indestructible coating", yeah right and I'm not a razorock hater by any means but come on. I've had several" indestructible" coatings on things that while they were slower than other things they are by no means indestructible. I guess for the amount of abuse a razor could receive this may be a somewhat true statement though. I did not mean my statement on coating to start a hate thread, just my opinions.

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 06-19-2015, 11:30 AM
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My past personal experience with pins on the baseplate has not been favorable. As much as I like the PILS, it is definitely more difficult to load than other razors. I'm not suggesting the the design needs to be changed, but I hope that it is easier to load than PILS.

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 06-19-2015, 11:33 AM
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(06-19-2015, 11:16 AM)Bruce Wrote: Icon_popcorn

make that ...
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 06-19-2015, 11:45 AM
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(06-19-2015, 11:33 AM)Bibbelmann Wrote:
(06-19-2015, 11:16 AM)Bruce Wrote: Icon_popcorn

make that ...
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Yep...

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 06-19-2015, 12:01 PM
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Haters of haters gonna keep on hating the hating haters. It's like the energizer bunny which just keeps going, & going, & going...

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 06-19-2015, 12:04 PM
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I tried a highly praised RazoRock shaving cream once. It was a revelation. This razor looks as professionally made as that cream. Mentioning a Pils (a pinnacle of German engineering) in the same thread seems like a sacrilege.

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 06-19-2015, 01:15 PM
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(06-19-2015, 12:04 PM)RobinK Wrote: I tried a highly praised RazoRock shaving cream once. It was a revelation. This razor looks as professionally made as that cream. Mentioning a Pils (a pinnacle of German engineering) in the same thread seems like a sacrilege.

Biggrin

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 06-19-2015, 01:29 PM
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(06-19-2015, 11:30 AM)chamm Wrote: My past personal experience with pins on the baseplate has not been favorable. As much as I like the PILS, it is definitely more difficult to load than other razors. I'm not suggesting the the design needs to be changed, but I hope that it is easier to load than PILS.

That is interesting, as I thought loading from the baseplate would be easier. Come to think of it, I have not seen any razors that have the pins on the baseplate, and maybe there is a reason why this is the case.

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 06-19-2015, 01:29 PM
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(06-19-2015, 12:04 PM)RobinK Wrote: I tried a highly praised RazoRock shaving cream once. It was a revelation. This razor looks as professionally made as that cream. Mentioning a Pils (a pinnacle of German engineering) in the same thread seems like a sacrilege.

I can understand your point of view, but I would point out that the RR Stealth Slant is one of the most finely engineered razors I own. I find myself using it only occasionally, because my ancestors left me with a thick German beard. Wink I think that razor is fantastically suited to someone with slightly lighter, finer hair. However, the design specs and quality of workmanship on that razor is phenomenal. The fit and finish are every bit as good as my PILS razor, and I don't believe that anyone could truly look at both and object to that statement. What's more, as much as I would agree that the PILS is a very finely engineered razor, I own others that are better.

I guess it's prudent to point out that RazoRock is a brand, not a manufacturer. The soaps they sell come from several different soap makers, and the razors are contracted out to machine shops. The quality of one doesn't have a lot to do with the quality of another. Joe is a dedicated retailer, and he genuinely cares about his products and customers. I understand that you might not care for the soap you tried. To be honest, there are RazoRock soaps that I don't care for, either.

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 06-19-2015, 01:34 PM
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(06-19-2015, 01:29 PM)lestorfreemon Wrote:
(06-19-2015, 11:30 AM)chamm Wrote: My past personal experience with pins on the baseplate has not been favorable. As much as I like the PILS, it is definitely more difficult to load than other razors. I'm not suggesting the the design needs to be changed, but I hope that it is easier to load than PILS.

That is interesting, as I thought loading from the baseplate would be easier. Come to think of it, I have not seen any razors that have the pins on the baseplate, and maybe there is a reason why this is the case.

I don't want to make it sound like it's hard to load a razor into the baseplate. It's just a little easier to load the top cap, because that's where the long post is, which helps to hold the razor. If you're loading it onto two posts on the baseplate, you still need to thread the top cap into the razor hole, and it's easy to knock it off the posts while doing so. You could also (as I do with the PILS) load the blade into the top cap despite not having posts, line it up, then try to hit the slots with the posts on the baseplate. I get it right most of the time, but the morning tends to be the time of day when I'm least coordinated. Wink

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 06-19-2015, 01:38 PM
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Thanks for sharing.

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 06-19-2015, 01:39 PM
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I guess we will have to wait and see.  I own a couple of RR slants and they are fantastic. One thing they have to be careful is to avoid been gimmicky.

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 06-19-2015, 01:57 PM
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I am always down to try something new. Everybody has different tastes in razors and whenever somebody mentions one razor being better than another they need to include "for me".

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 06-19-2015, 02:03 PM
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Well said Dave!

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 06-19-2015, 02:09 PM
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Looks interesting. Thanks for share!

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 06-19-2015, 03:34 PM
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(06-19-2015, 01:34 PM)chamm Wrote:
(06-19-2015, 01:29 PM)lestorfreemon Wrote:
(06-19-2015, 11:30 AM)chamm Wrote: My past personal experience with pins on the baseplate has not been favorable. As much as I like the PILS, it is definitely more difficult to load than other razors. I'm not suggesting the the design needs to be changed, but I hope that it is easier to load than PILS.

That is interesting, as I thought loading from the baseplate would be easier. Come to think of it, I have not seen any razors that have the pins on the baseplate, and maybe there is a reason why this is the case.

I don't want to make it sound like it's hard to load a razor into the baseplate. It's just a little easier to load the top cap, because that's where the long post is, which helps to hold the razor. If you're loading it onto two posts on the baseplate, you still need to thread the top cap into the razor hole, and it's easy to knock it off the posts while doing so. You could also (as I do with the PILS) load the blade into the top cap despite not having posts, line it up, then try to hit the slots with the posts on the baseplate. I get it right most of the time, but the morning tends to be the time of day when I'm least coordinated. Wink
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The key is machining tolerances.

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 06-19-2015, 03:51 PM
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(06-19-2015, 03:34 PM)RazoRock_Joe Wrote:
(06-19-2015, 01:34 PM)chamm Wrote:
(06-19-2015, 01:29 PM)lestorfreemon Wrote: That is interesting, as I thought loading from the baseplate would be easier. Come to think of it, I have not seen any razors that have the pins on the baseplate, and maybe there is a reason why this is the case.

I don't want to make it sound like it's hard to load a razor into the baseplate. It's just a little easier to load the top cap, because that's where the long post is, which helps to hold the razor. If you're loading it onto two posts on the baseplate, you still need to thread the top cap into the razor hole, and it's easy to knock it off the posts while doing so. You could also (as I do with the PILS) load the blade into the top cap despite not having posts, line it up, then try to hit the slots with the posts on the baseplate. I get it right most of the time, but the morning tends to be the time of day when I'm least coordinated. Wink
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https://youtu.be/yxwh4m-LzAY

The key is machining tolerances.

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Nice! It looks like the key to yours is the post's ability to hold the blade. (Because of high machine tolerances.) I can tell you that the blade does NOT fit so tightly on the post of my PILS. What's more, the handle of the PILS is attached to the baseplate, so you can't lay it down flat. You need one hand to hold the razor, the other hand to load the blade, then you need to make sure the blade stays where you put it while you attach the top cap. Like I said, not difficult, just not as easy as many non-German engineered razors. Wink

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