07-04-2015, 02:32 PM
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Hi!

I'm thinking about buying my first hone, and have decided on the Norton 4/8. Seems like the stone the majority probably start with. I am currently using lapping film and getting great edges, but would like to try water stones. But I do not have the budget to develop HAD. A 4/8, followed by a 12k in the future, will be the goal.
I currently set a bevel on 2k wet or dry, but I know from reading on the forums that it is possible to set the bevel on the 4k side of the Norton. Also, I know for $50-$70 I can get a decent 1k bevel setter later, and that's in the plan for the future, but I prefer to start with the 4/8. But these stones will pretty much be it for me, I think.
So I have a few questions.
Firstly, I have read somewhere that the 4k/8k is now manufactured somewhere else, but don't remember where. Mexico, maybe? Has there been any decline in quality that would make this stone less useable than what it has been for decades? Is this still a solid choice for a beginner like me?
Also, I plan to keep it level with plate glass and 400 wet or dry. Is this grit correct, or do I need something finer?
Finally, other than an initial lapping before first use, what, if any, other prep do I need before this stone is ready for use?
Thanks in advance for your help.

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 07-04-2015, 05:31 PM
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IIRC only the 4k side is made in mexico. I have one and I like it does what it's supposed to do. Cabt really go by country of origin if the company is reputable. Example spyderco knives is owned by Sal glessar. Sal is a very well respected man and only accepts top quality in his knives. Well Chinese knives are known as junk ,but spyderco has a Chinese line and it is actually a very good knife because Sal makes sure it's up to spec.

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 07-04-2015, 07:03 PM
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Otis375, thanks for the reply. Much appreciated.

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 07-04-2015, 11:06 PM
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If you like it, the set of barber hones offered from Larry at whippeddog may be a nice minimalistic choice. He cuts down the rather large stones and offers a quarter of the stones as a set. Also, less work to prepare and lap the stones

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 07-05-2015, 07:49 AM
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Hey Mike Smile
You may want to consider the combo Naniwa 3/8 , 3k and 8k.
A slightly less gritty stone from my experience and with a smoother feel to the edge.

I also concur, the Whipped Dog set is a very reasonable price and would be a great compliment, especially the lower grit combo Larry offers.

That would make a fine start

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 07-05-2015, 09:41 AM
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Bibbelmann, thanks. I considered the quarte-hones from WD, but for $20 more I can get a full sized 4k/8k stone. I can get by with that for the time being,  and get a King or Naniwa 1k in the future. I'd much rather go with a full size stone if possible.
Hi, James! Thanks for chiming in. I'll give the Naniwa 3k/8k a look as well.

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 07-13-2015, 02:26 PM
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My Norton 4/8k has arrived. I went with the Norton after reading a few threads where it was stated that the Norton wears a bit slower than the Naniwa.
Below is a closeup of the stone, as well as a shot of it and the materials used to lap it.
The 4k side is made in Italy, 8k in the U.S.A.
Norton must have handled the situation I read about in a few threads regarding the 4k side, because it lapped smooth really fast. I doubt I lost a 16th of an inch.

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 07-13-2015, 02:27 PM
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I don't know why my post above is in the form of a "quote". I quoted no one, least of all myself.

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 07-13-2015, 02:28 PM
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(07-13-2015, 02:27 PM)SRNewb Wrote: I don't know why my post above is in the form of a "quote". I quoted no one, least of all myself.

I fixed it.  Don't know why it did it either.  Nice stones.

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 07-13-2015, 02:29 PM
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(07-13-2015, 02:28 PM)Johnny Wrote:
(07-13-2015, 02:27 PM)SRNewb Wrote: I don't know why my post above is in the form of a "quote". I quoted no one, least of all myself.

I fixed it.  Don't know why it did it either.  Nice stones.

Johnny on the spot! Thanks my friend. And for the compliment. Looking forward to trying it out!

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 07-14-2015, 05:14 AM
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Congrats Mike

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 07-14-2015, 07:41 AM
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Thanks, my friend.

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