07-14-2015, 08:52 AM
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I've been using the R89 since Dec or January. It's fine. Works well. But I don't know if I am missing something.

I signed up to get on the list for the Wolfman razors. That could be nice but it is also 6 months away.

But where should I be going from here? Should I be using an R41? A tech? A slant? Become a straight razor guy?

And please don't say all of the above Smile

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 07-14-2015, 09:01 AM
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  • kwsher
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I avoided OC razors for a very long time based on misconceptions regarding their aggressiveness and the fact that I was getting really nice results with SB razors.

One of my favorite OC is the Fatip Grande. Very inexpensive, not great to look at but I love the way it shaves. That would be my lower budget, value recommendation to try something new.

A bit higher cost but a great value that allows you to cater your shave is a recent pickup of mine: the Mergress. I have not picked one up due to availability but finally broke down on this latest batch from Lee and it is a great performer that is adjustable to suit your needs. Little more pricey but a great value IMHO.

A third middle ground option is to pick up an older Gillette adjustable such as a Slim etc. that gives you a different flavor and also has that historical component.

Those would be my "branch out" options.

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 07-14-2015, 09:07 AM
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This is an impossible question to answer for you as the possibilities are numerous and it would depend on you and how you get on with any future shaver; DE, SE, or straight razor.
The only thing I am certain of is that if you are getting good shaves with the EJ89, then you don't need any other razor.
Having said this, I would suggest an adjustable, such as the Merkur Progress or a vintage Gillette such as the Fatboy or Slim just to be able to have the option of a more aggressive razor. However, you can always add one or two shims to your EJ 89 if you want something more aggressive.

There are so many wonderful options out there that you will have to make your own decision as to which you want to try.
A stainless steel razor is also a very good option.
Good luck.

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 07-14-2015, 09:10 AM
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I recommend you look at the the vintage Gillettes.  Great razors.

Ed

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 07-14-2015, 09:16 AM
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maybe try different handle lengths/weights/diameters?

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 07-14-2015, 09:21 AM
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(07-14-2015, 09:16 AM)jackgoldman123 Wrote: maybe try different handle lengths/weights/diameters?

Another good option. I find the Weber bulldog to make a big difference in performance with the R89.

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 07-14-2015, 09:22 AM
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I personally like my ikon open comb and safety bar. I bought the complete open comb for 75 on the bst and a blemished safety bar dlc for 20 from ikon. It gave me an opportunity to try 2 stainless steel razors in 1 for under $100. These are the real ikons not the shavecrafts, but those I hear are pretty nice as well.

Those Gillette slim and fatboys would also be a good way for you to determine what level of aggression you like. 

Don't limit yourself though, keep an eye out for interesting pieces I.e. hoffritz slant, old gillettes etc. Take them when they are good prices and worst case scenario is you resell them.

Good luck

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 07-14-2015, 09:29 AM
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Question: how many blades have you tried in the 89?

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 07-14-2015, 11:25 AM
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(07-14-2015, 09:10 AM)LookingGlass Wrote: I recommend you look at the the vintage Gillettes.  Great razors.

Ed

(07-14-2015, 09:21 AM)kwsher Wrote:
(07-14-2015, 09:16 AM)jackgoldman123 Wrote: maybe try different handle lengths/weights/diameters?

Another good option. I find the Weber bulldog to make a big difference in performance with the R89.

Agreed  on the above.
Celestino has made the proposal, I will, too: get the very versatile Merkur Progress adjustable. It is a magic razor, covering a broad range. Have fun!Smile

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 07-14-2015, 11:35 AM
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(07-14-2015, 09:01 AM)kwsher Wrote: A bit higher cost but a great value that allows you to cater your shave is a recent pickup of mine: the Mergress. I have not picked one up due to availability but finally broke down on this latest batch from Lee and it is a great performer that is adjustable to suit your needs. Little more pricey but a great value IMHO.

That's three- I agree on this too; very pleased with the flexibility and quality of Mergress shave thus far. Last I checked, Lee still had some of the regular Mergress in stock as well. 

I almost ordered the XL for the weight but am VERY happy with the weight and balance of the regular, particularly as I like shorter handles. It weighs more than my ATT!

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 07-14-2015, 01:36 PM
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(07-14-2015, 08:52 AM)Billium Wrote: I've been using the R89 since Dec or January.  It's fine.  Works well.  But I don't know if I am missing something.

I signed up to get on the list for the Wolfman razors.  That could be nice but it is also 6 months away.  

But where should I be going from here?  Should I be using an R41?  A tech?  A slant?  Become a straight razor guy?

And please don't say all of the above Smile

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 07-14-2015, 01:44 PM
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I agree with others on trying different handles and vintage Gillette's. I still have my R89 but with a heavier handle. Changes the shave quality in a good way. I also have injectors which are inexpensive but great shaves! Of all my razors my best/favorite shave comes from a 1948-1950 Aristocrat. Fantastic shaver! Best advise is to just look for deals and try different things. You may be surprised at what you find that you didn't know you even wanted.

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 07-14-2015, 02:59 PM
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(07-14-2015, 09:10 AM)LookingGlass Wrote: I recommend you look at the the vintage Gillettes.  Great razors.

Ed

Good recommendation.  So many nice ones to pick from.

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 07-16-2015, 11:35 AM
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(07-14-2015, 09:29 AM)jackgoldman123 Wrote: Question: how many blades have you tried in the 89?

Hi Jack I have used Astra Superior Platinum, Derby Extra, Gillette Silver Blue Stainless (Rus), Gillette 7 o'clock sharp edge (Rus), Personna platinum chrome (red personna or israeli red), polsiver super iridium extra stainless, super-max super platinum, treat platinum, and wilkinson sword double edge.  I have a few feather platinum as well but haven't tried those.  I hated the derby, super max, and treet and I though Astra and wilkinson were sorta middle of the road.


(07-14-2015, 02:59 PM)hrfdez Wrote:
(07-14-2015, 09:10 AM)LookingGlass Wrote: I recommend you look at the the vintage Gillettes.  Great razors.

Ed

Good recommendation.  So many nice ones to pick from.

I actually wanted to start with a vintage gillette and now I remember why I didn't.  Too many choices.  Super speed or Tech?  Different years, the color on the bottom means different things, etc.  Between the speed and the tech, which should I choose, what model should I look for, and will it help me decide if like gentler or more aggressive shavers than the Muhle R89 rose gold I have?  

Thanks for your thoughts gents!

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 07-16-2015, 12:17 PM
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Super speeds and techs are going to be milder than the r89. Go adjustable. .

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 07-16-2015, 12:18 PM
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(07-16-2015, 12:17 PM)Otis375 Wrote: Go adjustable. .

What Otis said Wink I would likely pick up a Slim.

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 07-16-2015, 12:25 PM
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If a slim is out of your budget the super adjustable aka black beauty can be had for around 20 dollars if you shop around. A slim is a great shaver, and you won't find the crazy mark ups that the fat boys have. Another would be the red tip super speed, but I would still go adjustable because you get basically a tech,superspeed in all colors all in one razor. Some say a red tip is equal to a slim on about 6, but just remember the slim goes to 9. It really does shave like 9 different razors.

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 07-16-2015, 12:42 PM
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[Image: WaU8khZ.jpg]I've enjoyed my share of razors but settled on the 86. It just 'works' in spite of getting squirrely if I become enthusiastic with water. It also matches my ivory brushes and soap stand. Then I saw this EJ. It matches my watch,cufflinks and fountain pen. I approach shaving with studied deliberation devoid of emotion.

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 07-16-2015, 12:48 PM
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(07-16-2015, 12:42 PM)kav Wrote: [Image: WaU8khZ.jpg]I've enjoyed my share of razors but settled on the 86. It just 'works' in spite of getting squirrely if I become enthusiastic with water. It also matches my ivory brushes and soap stand. Then I saw this EJ. It matches my watch,cufflinks and fountain pen. I approach shaving with studied deliberation devoid of emotion.
I don't choose my razors based on my watch, cufflinks and fountain pen as that is obviously silly.

I choose my watches, cufflinks and fountain pens based on my razors. Smile

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 07-16-2015, 12:50 PM
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Op if you didn't know, all Edwin jagger SB razors despite color or configuration are the same head, the muhle r89 is the same as well,just different plating.

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