07-16-2015, 06:53 PM
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I want to buy my second badger brush. I got my first one when I first started using a shave brush. That was about 1975. (I’m an old guy.) It was a drugstore inexpensive Kingsley badger. I had it for many years because I didn’t always use it. When wet shaving became my hobby about 4 years ago, I mostly bought synthetic brushes and a few boars.
Now I would like to try a decent badger brush again. I would like to keep it in the $200. range. I bowl lather and face lather using a shave stick. I know there are so many to choose from and I know so little about badgers.

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 07-16-2015, 06:55 PM
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  • N8Julo43
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Thater 2-band would be a solid choice. Great buy for the money and keeps you well under the $200 limit.

The 4125/2 is well thought of. It is available in Ivory or Black, in a Bulb or Fan shaped knot.

http://www.straightrazordesigns.com/inde...2406bb0a99

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 07-16-2015, 07:01 PM
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Of the boars and synthetics you own, how are the backbone and loft? Also, what knot size do you prefer?  My synthetics are very soft with a weaker backbone. However they whip up lather like no ones business. My boar hair brush has a higher loft and larger knot. It had much more scritchiness. Also, it looks like you bowl and face lather. Which do you do more often?  A little more of your current preferences will help us guide you. There are many nice brushes in your budget.

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 07-16-2015, 07:07 PM
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Good advice thus far. You will get all the guidance you could want to help your decision based on some additional info.

Along the same lines as Thater, a Shavemac would be a really solid option as well once you narrow down your preferences. You can configure your brush under Experts Selections, choosing handle, color, knot shape, hair, knot size and loft to get exactly what you want.

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 07-16-2015, 07:08 PM
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I kind of like a 24 mm knot in my brushes. I never gave much thought to bulb vers fan shape.

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 07-16-2015, 07:16 PM
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I think Shavenac Silvertip is what I would buy in that price range.

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 07-16-2015, 07:17 PM
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I have 2 of these. One in best and one pure. The Berkeley  For a "small" brush it holds some amount of lather. I find it very easy to either bowl lather, or, face lather with this brush. I was going to say get a New Forest Tubby1, but it seems Fido is done. I love my Tubby.

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 07-16-2015, 07:31 PM
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I'll 2nd the Thater 4125, I was lucky enough to acquire mine from another member for a good price. Cloud soft with enough backbone and I got really lucky with some pronounced hooked and gel tips.

I'd also recommend looking into possibly a duke 3 or chubby 2 for Simpson's in best hair which is extremely modestly rated. These are however more face lathering brushes.

There's been a ton of rave regarding the new shavemac 2 band hair which should fit into your budget nicely.

Also if you eye the BST you may be able to pick up an ever higher end brush for your budget I.e. a Morris and forndran or paladin, something along those lines

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 07-16-2015, 07:41 PM
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Thater 2-Band is excellent. I picked up three of them last week from shaving.ie in Ireland. Free shipping and VAT is removed for overseas customers. The 24mm 2-Band in black comes in at only $123: http://www.shaving.ie/products/hl-thater...125-2.html. A 30mm 2-Band, which is almost impossible to find in the States can be had for under $170. Shipping takes about one week, but it is worth it.

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 07-16-2015, 08:09 PM
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You guys seem to like Shavemac brushes. So I'm looking at this one in a 24mm knot. What do you think?

 http://www.shavemac.com/products/Shaving...adger.html

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 07-16-2015, 08:15 PM
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Simpson Duke 3 or a Morris & Forndran.Paladin seems also a great choice , but until Sept wont be making brushes with knots under 26 mm (for what I understood). shavemacs are also a great choice and I will go for a D01 silvertip 24 mm or a finest badger 22 mm.

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 07-16-2015, 08:21 PM
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Simpson Duke 3 in Best for well under your budget or Manchurian if you are willing to stretch it.

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 07-16-2015, 08:29 PM
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(07-16-2015, 07:41 PM)nervosa1901 Wrote: Thater 2-Band is excellent. I picked up three of them last week from shaving.ie in Ireland. Free shipping and VAT is removed for overseas customers. The 24mm 2-Band in black comes in at only $123: http://www.shaving.ie/products/hl-thater...125-2.html. A 30mm 2-Band, which is almost impossible to find in the States can be had for under $170. Shipping takes about one week, but it is worth it.

Shaving.ie and Connaught are the best place to buy anything from Europe. When I first stumbled across Shaving.ie I was worried they might be selling fakes since the prices were so low. Also, their shipping is actually cheaper than most U.S. vendors, and Connaught is ridiculously cheap. I paid $2.00 shipping for my Muhle R41. 

Anyway, that 30mm Thater is $167.00 and ships free to the U.S. I just checked. What a deal! Also, they have a 28mm with 58mm loft for only $128.16. That is the route I would go now that I realize Thater is sold by Shaving.ie. Shavemac is nice but that is a steal.

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 07-16-2015, 08:30 PM
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(07-16-2015, 08:09 PM)shave/brush Wrote: You guys seem to like Shavemac brushes. So I'm looking at this one in a 24mm knot. What do you think?

 http://www.shavemac.com/products/Shaving...adger.html

If you go shavemac, I would strongly recommend you look at their 2 band option instead of Silvertip(3 band) 
Their d01 3 band silvertip is also a nice knot, very dense and soft, with backbone. D01 2 band tends to be too aggressive for most ppl but Im enjoying the one I acquired recently

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 07-16-2015, 08:36 PM
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(07-16-2015, 08:30 PM)Safelysimpson Wrote:
(07-16-2015, 08:09 PM)shave/brush Wrote: You guys seem to like Shavemac brushes. So I'm looking at this one in a 24mm knot. What do you think?

 http://www.shavemac.com/products/Shaving...adger.html

If you go shavemac, I would strongly recommend you look at their 2 band option instead of Silvertip(3 band) 
Their d01 3 band silvertip is also a nice knot, very dense and soft, with backbone. D01 2 band tends to be too aggressive for most ppl but Im enjoying the one I acquired recently

I don't know what you mean by their d01 or d01 2 band.

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 07-16-2015, 08:37 PM
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(07-16-2015, 08:09 PM)shave/brush Wrote: You guys seem to like Shavemac brushes. So I'm looking at this one in a 24mm knot. What do you think?

 http://www.shavemac.com/products/Shaving...adger.html

That is nice. I would opt for the 26 or 28mm knot though to have a handle that is a little taller. I don't like a handle shorter than 48mm personally but I have large hands, you may be fine with a shorter handle. That handle is just like the Thater handles so you should compare the two before buying, especially since Shaving.ie has good deals on Thater. Personally I prefer some of the other style handles that Shavemac offers but that one is very nice too.

Can someone chime in that has owned both Thater and Shavemac.

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 07-16-2015, 08:43 PM
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(07-16-2015, 08:36 PM)shave/brush Wrote:
(07-16-2015, 08:30 PM)Safelysimpson Wrote:
(07-16-2015, 08:09 PM)shave/brush Wrote: You guys seem to like Shavemac brushes. So I'm looking at this one in a 24mm knot. What do you think?

 http://www.shavemac.com/products/Shaving...adger.html

If you go shavemac, I would strongly recommend you look at their 2 band option instead of Silvertip(3 band) 
Their d01 3 band silvertip is also a nice knot, very dense and soft, with backbone. D01 2 band tends to be too aggressive for most ppl but Im enjoying the one I acquired recently

I don't know what you mean by their d01 or d01 2 band.

Those are different types of badger knots. You have to select which type you want and the price changes accordingly.

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 07-16-2015, 08:57 PM
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(07-16-2015, 08:37 PM)Hobbyist Wrote:
(07-16-2015, 08:09 PM)shave/brush Wrote: You guys seem to like Shavemac brushes. So I'm looking at this one in a 24mm knot. What do you think?

 http://www.shavemac.com/products/Shaving...adger.html

That is nice. I would opt for the 26 or 28mm knot though to have a handle that is a little taller. I don't like a handle shorter than 48mm personally but I have large hands, you may be fine with a shorter handle. That handle is just like the Thater handles so you should compare the two before buying, especially since Shaving.ie has good deals on Thater. Personally I prefer some of the other style handles that Shavemac offers but that one is very nice too.

Can someone chime in that has owned both Thater and Shavemac.

I just went to the Shaving.ie site and I could not find any Thater brushes for sale.

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 07-16-2015, 09:00 PM
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I also could not find any badger brushes at Connaught.

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 07-16-2015, 09:03 PM
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(07-16-2015, 08:36 PM)shave/brush Wrote:
(07-16-2015, 08:30 PM)Safelysimpson Wrote:
(07-16-2015, 08:09 PM)shave/brush Wrote: You guys seem to like Shavemac brushes. So I'm looking at this one in a 24mm knot. What do you think?

 http://www.shavemac.com/products/Shaving...adger.html

If you go shavemac, I would strongly recommend you look at their 2 band option instead of Silvertip(3 band) 
Their d01 3 band silvertip is also a nice knot, very dense and soft, with backbone. D01 2 band tends to be too aggressive for most ppl but Im enjoying the one I acquired recently

I don't know what you mean by their d01 or d01 2 band.

D01 is their "extreme line", known to be extra dense. The d01 silvertip is a traditional 3 band badger silvertip which adds some nice backbone to a predominantly light backboned hair. 2 band hair comes from the hog badger and this hair tends to be stiffer silvertip hair, some grades are stiff with soft lush tips while others are scritchy or scratchy, a lot of ppl reference the 2 band d01 as scratchy and too dense. I personally like mine.

The normal 2 band hair for shavemac everybody is currently lusting over, I believe it's under "gentle" category or something of that sort under shavemac

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