07-24-2015, 07:14 PM
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Had the first run with the iconic Savile Row 3824.  It has more loft than I'm accustomed to, but the face feel is very soft.  I've been mostly using 2-bands and I want to see what the SR has to offer.  The Vie-Long Beehive Silvertip is my favorite three band now and the SR hair looks similar though the bulb is slightly more focused and the loft a bit higher. 

First impression is very favorable. I do believe I'm seeing some hooked tips right there>

Any love for Savile Rows?
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 07-24-2015, 07:20 PM
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Is this a recent model? I remember hearing that the older models had higher lofts.

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 07-24-2015, 07:59 PM
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This is the current model. I'll try to measure it later.

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 07-24-2015, 08:04 PM
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I own the SR 3124 - but it's really a Shavemac from handle to hairs.

You can get about exactly the same brush if you custom order a Shavemac in 3-Band Silvertip and match the loft and knot size.

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 07-24-2015, 08:09 PM
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Seems to be close to spec of 24x54, I measure 25x54.

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 07-24-2015, 08:11 PM
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(07-24-2015, 08:04 PM)CHSeifert Wrote: I own the SR 3124 - but it's really a Shavemac from handle to hairs.

You can get about exactly the same brush if you custom order a Shavemac in 3-Band Silvertip and match the loft and knot size.

No difference in the knots?

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 07-28-2015, 08:33 AM
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I haven't used a Savile Row but I have Thater and Shavemac 3-band silvertips.  I suspect they are all the same thing slightly repackaged.  

I've been meaning to get a Shavemac 3-band silvertip bulb with the specs of the 3824 someday (24x54 bulb).  My Thater 49125/2 is just a bit dense for my tastes (26x54 bulb).

All of the 3-band silvertips I have used from Thater and Shavemac have slightly curled tips with the gel feeling as you described.  Extremely soft.  I've also found that every Thater and Shavemac actually measures 1mm larger at the base than the listed knot size.  They don't skimp on hair!

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 07-28-2015, 09:25 AM
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The 3824 will always have a special place in my heart as it was the first true "High End" brush I purchased 7 years ago during the infancy of my traditional wet shaving journey. 

I eventually let it go since for me, it felt like a floppy mop once I graduated to the old Simpson 2 bands, Rooney Heritage 2 band and M&F's. 

The tips on the SR 3824 were wonderfully soft and a terrific brush in its own right but for me, it lacked the sufficient level of backbone I grew to prefer.

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 07-28-2015, 10:54 AM
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(07-28-2015, 09:25 AM)Bravado13 Wrote: I eventually let it go since for me, it felt like a floppy mop once I graduated to the old Simpson 2 bands, Rooney Heritage 2 band and M&F's. 
The tips on the SR 3824 were wonderfully soft and a terrific brush in its own right but for me, it lacked the sufficient level of backbone I grew to prefer.

Signs011    I couldn't have stated it any better.

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 07-28-2015, 06:59 PM
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(07-28-2015, 09:25 AM)Bravado13 Wrote: The 3824 will always have a special place in my heart as it was the first true "High End" brush I purchased 7 years ago during the infancy of my traditional wet shaving journey. 

I eventually let it go since for me, it felt like a floppy mop once I graduated to the old Simpson 2 bands, Rooney Heritage 2 band and M&F's. 

The tips on the SR 3824 were wonderfully soft and a terrific brush in its own right but for me, it lacked the sufficient level of backbone I grew to prefer.

I am under the impression that the newer SRs have a slightly shorter loft.  My brush doesn't seem floppy at all, and I have a few two bands that are the antithesis of floppy.... maybe it's time to try another.

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 07-28-2015, 07:04 PM
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The original 3824 had a 61mm loft. That was later dropped to 54mm.

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 07-28-2015, 07:09 PM
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The specs you mentioned of 24x54 are about the same as my Thater 3-band bulb, and the Thater is definitely not a floppy brush. Certainly not the same backbone as a typical 2-band, but it is sufficient for my needs. If it was a fan at those specs, it would be a different story...

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 07-28-2015, 11:28 PM
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(07-24-2015, 08:11 PM)number six Wrote:
(07-24-2015, 08:04 PM)CHSeifert Wrote: I own the SR 3124 - but it's really a Shavemac from handle to hairs.

You can get about exactly the same brush if you custom order a Shavemac in 3-Band Silvertip and match the loft and knot size.

No difference in the knots?

The SR is made by Shavemac, under directions from SR. If you want, you can email Bernd and ask him to make you a brush with a knot comparable to a Savile Row. You won't hear Bernd ask what you mean by that. Bernd will just make it for you.
What does that exactly tell you  Wink

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 07-29-2015, 04:02 AM
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(07-28-2015, 06:59 PM)number six Wrote: I am under the impression that the newer SRs have a slightly shorter loft.  My brush doesn't seem floppy at all, and I have a few two bands that are the antithesis of floppy.... maybe it's time to try another.

That it is correct. The newer 3824's had the loft shortened to 54 mm which is what I previously owned and for me, it still didn't provide the level of backbone I prefer so I don't foresee trying another resulting in a different conclusion. 

Many like yourself enjoy the brush a great deal and that's really all that matters so may you continue to have many more satisfying shaves with your lovely new brush Smile

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 01-06-2017, 01:53 PM
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I got the 3824 as part of the Kris Kringle bonanza here on TSN. Previously, my "high-end" brush was a Simpson's Berkeley 46.
I must say, the 3824 is a treat to use.

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 01-06-2017, 11:36 PM
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Always wanted a Saville Row. 2017 maybe the year I'll have one in my den.

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 01-07-2017, 06:11 AM
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One of the best three bands available in my opinion. Beutiful brush.

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 07-23-2017, 05:24 PM
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(07-24-2015, 07:14 PM)number six Wrote: Had the first run with the iconic Savile Row 3824.  It has more loft than I'm accustomed to, but the face feel is very soft.  I've been mostly using 2-bands and I want to see what the SR has to offer.  The Vie-Long Beehive Silvertip is my favorite three band now and the SR hair looks similar though the bulb is slightly more focused and the loft a bit higher. 

First impression is very favorable. I do believe I'm seeing some hooked tips right there>

Any love for Savile Rows?
[Image: cBQaI3o.jpg]

Very nice

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 07-23-2017, 08:25 PM
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(07-28-2015, 07:04 PM)rsp1202 Wrote: The original 3824 had a 61mm loft. That was later dropped to 54mm.

I don't remember the original 3824 being that high in the loft for it's base specs, 59mm I thought it was, but it did indeed go from a longer loft to a shorter loft. I waffled back and forth on which I preferred, and finally settled in on the longer loft.

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 07-24-2017, 07:20 PM
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I also prefer two band badgers and they consist about 85% of my collection but the Savile Row 3124 is one I will never get rid of.

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