07-30-2015, 06:39 AM
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I pay full price for all of my soaps so this comparison is of my own free will and allows my Don Draper persona to speak.....

I received my V2 Arctique in the mail earlier in the week and did a back to back comparison 2 days apart. Lots of differences but good similarities. I think I read somewhere, or imagined, that Will was no satisfied with the V1 product. He came to the same conclusion I did when I used it last yr. It was just too soft and pasty, more a cream than a soap. I think he mentioned something about the amount of menthol affected how the Tre Citta formula solidified, or prevented the solidification of the V1 soap. I agree. Using a badger brush just pushed it around in the tub. It was hard to get the correct amount loaded to work up a lather. In fact I even left mine open to the air to give it more time to cure. Having been a yr since I got my V1, it firmed up fairly well. I could use a soft boar to work up a proto lather to finish face lathering. This brings me to problem #2 with V1, you have to load it alot, like twice his normal soaps. If not you get the Mystic Water disappearing lather trick. It was an unstable lather unless you took the time to fully load the brush. Someone who wants a quick happy meal TABAC level lather pop up wont get it and will dislike it. Those who are willing to stand there and work it will succeed. But V1 is sooo last yrs soap.

V2 is different, obviously. Will knew he had to make the change. I think last yr was the yr of the menthol. Alot of makers were cranking out new versions of hyper-mentholated soaps. I dont think V1 was a rush to market product, but you could tell there was much more refinement and time invested in V2. V2 is a tallow product and this helps. Not because I lean the tallow way, but it makes the lather more stable. You load a little bit, you get thin lather, you load alot, you get thick lather. V2 holds its form and consistancy through the shave without a hint of the Mystic Water disappearing act. And that tallow, it just makes it super creamy and thick. I couldnt think of the term, but what is the opposite of liquid napalm? That would be my assessment of V2. Its thicker and stays with you longer. As opposed the the V1 that would trail off on coolness as the lather started to break down. Also, it did seem to take a little bit of time to build the proto lather in the tub. I dont know if this was due to the new "crust" of the new soap or inherent with V2, all the while still easier and quicker than V1. Another quirk I noticed about this soap. It has a weird shine to it. Kind of a fluorescent glow or sheen to it. I noticed this same sheen on other artisan soaps that use SLS. I'm not saying it's in there and Will uses SLS, just an observation, nothing more. (Since Will isnt here he cant explain it either, FWIW)

So which one is better? V2. How would I compare the face freeze level? I would say V1=9 and V2=10. V2 gets the nod as colder even though I bet they have the same menthol level, owing to the V2 ability to stay together and last through the shave and continue to linger afterwards...again, what is the opposite of liquid napalm?

I would put V2 a notch or so above the Stirling line and miles apart from any other maker that just tried to cash in on the menthol craze last year with melt and pour soaps and gimmicky labels. (Full disclosure, I havent tried Cryogen and hear it a awesome product so it should be considered a top tier face freeze product) I would rate Vostock and Iced Key Lime about the same as the Stirling offerings. They are my daily summer soaps, with V2 Arctique saved for the days when you almost had a heat stroke and need a punch in the face.

Those of us who enjoy hyper-mentholated soaps consider the cooling factor almost as much, if not more than the performance of the shave soap itself. The casual user of TABAC and Proraso will not buy this soap without focusing more on its drawbacks, than the actual subzero temps you face will endure.

Also, I didnt buy the matching aftershave Will marketed with this soap. My aftershave of choice for menthol days is Snake Bite, with an occasional Vostock balm chaser.

So chill out guys, these simple pleasures make summer more durable.



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 07-31-2015, 01:02 AM
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Great review, this soap interests me but haven't gotten round to trying it. I am glad the instability issue has been sorted. If you get a chance to try Cryogen I think you will like it.

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 07-31-2015, 05:06 AM
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Thanks Windsor. This is one of the longer reviews I have typed here and a almost a day without a response, I was starting to think I typed it in invisible ink.

Cryogen is on my hit list. Unless it is an LE, it should be available for a while more. I have these 2 tubs of Arctique and some Stirling to wear out in the mean time.

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 07-31-2015, 08:32 AM
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Great review, thanks for sharing.  I was thinking of getting the Arctique but it was too late by the time I decided.  I still have too many soaps but would have love to try this since I like menthol.

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 07-31-2015, 09:35 AM
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I agree v2 is way better than v1 in every way

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 07-31-2015, 09:49 AM
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Nice review. 

I don't understand the hypermenthol thing at all.  I would love to find a soap that has just a little bit of menthol in it; an amount that might be barely noticeable until the rinse, at which time the water would feel cooler on the face than it does on the hands.  

So, I'm not the target market for either of these soaps.  

But it was still a thorough and enjoyable review.

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 07-31-2015, 02:17 PM
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(07-31-2015, 09:49 AM)kingfisher Wrote: Nice review. 

I don't understand the hypermenthol thing at all.  I would love to find a soap that has just a little bit of menthol in it; an amount that might be barely noticeable until the rinse, at which time the water would feel cooler on the face than it does on the hands.  

So, I'm not the target market for either of these soaps.  

But it was still a thorough and enjoyable review.

Yes, we are an eclectic bunch for sure.

What you just described to me sounds/feels like the B&M Adagio. You dont feel the menthol till the second or third pass. Maybe even the green Proraso, but only used that once due to razor chatter.

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 07-31-2015, 05:37 PM
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(07-31-2015, 09:49 AM)kingfisher Wrote: Nice review. 

I don't understand the hypermenthol thing at all.  I would love to find a soap that has just a little bit of menthol in it; an amount that might be barely noticeable until the rinse, at which time the water would feel cooler on the face than it does on the hands.  

So, I'm not the target market for either of these soaps.  

But it was still a thorough and enjoyable review.

adagio from barrister + mann fits this bill.

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 08-02-2015, 06:21 PM
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To add,
It just dawned on me that if I would have known that V1 was going to be so creamy, I would have transferred it to a mug (with a lid) to let it cure through the yr and leave it open to the for periods of time. Mine has firmed up enough to use now but since it takes to long to load the correct amount that the big tub Will sold it in is just not quite big enough.

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 08-06-2015, 09:34 AM
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The AS is COLD. I love it.

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 08-06-2015, 04:29 PM
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I was able to use v1 and while it did take time to load and build a proper lather it still performed really well. The consistency was the killer for me. 

Arctique v2 is perfect for me. Loads and lathers much like other B&M soaps with a strong menthol amount that I enjoy. It isn't as much as Cryogen but for me this is the perfect daily amount. Cryogen is for the days where I want to feel frozen solid. Arctique is for any day where the temps and humidity are high, which here in the southeast is quite often currently. The AS splash is wonderful. Great skincare qualities while also adding to the face freeze. 

Proraso was a decent amount of menthol, but I always wanted more. Arctique is the answer for me along with a much more enjoyable scent. 

Nice review OP, thanks for sharing.

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 08-14-2015, 02:56 AM
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After a couple uses with arctique, it is becoming my favorite menthol soap. Having tried Kramperts Frostbite, Stirling Glacials, Yeti Snot, and Croygen, along other mentholated soaps, I'd say its quite up there in menthol. Cryogen will be always be on top, but I'd say Arctique right behind Cryogen in menthol strength and bit colder than the Glacials. Stirling may provide the slicker lathers, but Arctique provides a thicker lather capable of 3 passes and a smoother post shave. Scentwise, cryogen reminds me of Vick's vapor rubs, but my mentholated scent would be Stirling Glacial Spearmint. Arctique would be second in scent. Arctique is just the perfect combo mentholated soap all around.

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 08-19-2015, 12:10 PM
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The Arctique soap is plenty cold and applying the AS just intensifies the sensation.  Slow at first and then BAM!!  Loved it.

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 08-21-2015, 08:27 AM
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It would be difficult to imagine a colder soap than the Glacials or the Cryogen. At first I thought that the Yeti Snot was the ultimate freeze, but the Glacials sure topped it.

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