07-31-2015, 12:55 PM
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  • Rufus
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I'm considering buying a Semogue 1305, but I have reservations around the durability of the painted wood handle.  Should I be concerned?  Would my concern be allayed by giving the handle a few coats of spar varnish?  Would it just be better to buy an 830, which I understand is the same knot in an acrylic handle?

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 07-31-2015, 01:21 PM
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The handle will chip.  It is just a matter of time.

As to which one to buy, that is up to you.  I have had a number of Semogue brushes and they were all nice.

My favorite is definitely the BC Mistura.

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 07-31-2015, 01:29 PM
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There are two kinds of 1305s...those that are chipped and those that are going to chip.  While good looking, the paint is very fragile.  Drop it and it will chip.  I have a 1305 (not chipped as of this writing  Sisi1); a wonderful knot.  I have also owned a 830 which, for me, is just as good.  The red acrylic handle is nice and pretty.  It boils down to your preference.

Ed

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 07-31-2015, 02:32 PM
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(07-31-2015, 01:21 PM)PanChango Wrote: The handle will chip.  It is just a matter of time.

As to which one to buy, that is up to you.  I have had a number of Semogue brushes and they were all nice.

My favorite is definitely the BC Mistura.

+1 on everything above. The SOC Boar will approximate the loft of the 1305 more than the Mistura. That being said, the Mistura is a great choice and I love mine. The 1/2 badger gives the brush some style as opposed to my SOC (1305), which is almost always having a bad hair day  Wink I think the 1305 is a beautiful brush. I give it to friends that I am turning on to wet shaving. I say buy it and be careful. If it chips, you either think of it as a patina, or, because they are so inexpensive, you replace it. But you won't, because once it's broken in, you will adore the brush.

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 07-31-2015, 02:38 PM
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(07-31-2015, 02:32 PM)primotenore Wrote:
(07-31-2015, 01:21 PM)PanChango Wrote: The handle will chip.  It is just a matter of time.

As to which one to buy, that is up to you.  I have had a number of Semogue brushes and they were all nice.

My favorite is definitely the BC Mistura.

+1 on everything above. The SOC Boar will approximate the loft of the 1305 more than the Mistura. That being said, the Mistura is a great choice and I love mine. The 1/2 badger gives the brush some style as opposed to my SOC (1305), which is almost always having a bad hair day  Wink I think the 1305 is a beautiful brush. I give to friends that I am turning on to wet shaving. I say buy it and be careful. If it chips, you either think of it as a patina, or, because they are so inexpensive, you replace it. But you won't, because once it's broken in, you will adore the brush.

I just sent this brush along with the balance of a starter kit to a friend last week! I have a 1305 myself, have had for a couple of years. Mine is still pristine and no issues with chipping. It is so inexpensive that I wouldn't worry and it definitely, IMHO, has a better look than the acrylic alternative.

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 07-31-2015, 02:44 PM
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I've had two 1305s, as Kevin mentions it is a good looking brush.  As others have pointed out though, it requires very little to get a pretty big chip in the paint.  My first was bumped against the sink when shaking out water post shave, my fault but didn't seem like there was enough force to cause the damage that it did.  Good news is they are dirt cheap, and perform well,

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 07-31-2015, 05:29 PM
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Just get the Semogue 830 as it has the exact same knot, but with a much more durable and nicer handle.  Shy

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 08-01-2015, 03:48 AM
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(07-31-2015, 05:29 PM)celestino Wrote: Just get the Semogue 830 as it has the exact same knot, but with a much more durable and nicer handle.  Shy

That's what I'm going to do.  I'll be in Lisbon next month, any suggestions on a good B&M shop where Ican get one plus other shaving goodies?

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 08-01-2015, 05:55 AM
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  • nikos.a
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I have both 1305 and 830. I prefer 830, I like the handle better. But, both are great brushes. Whatever you buy, you will be satisfied.

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 08-01-2015, 06:54 AM
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And I prefer the ergonomics of the SOC handle. For me, the acrylic handle, while nice, is too small. Enjoy choosing and Lisbon.

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 08-01-2015, 10:02 AM
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I have a 1305 for 3 years now, a lot of use, 0 problems. Semogue solved the paint issue some years ago. But if the brush drop from your hand I guess is like a scuttle, a bowl or any delicate stuff...

Nice brush at a modest price.

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 08-01-2015, 10:15 AM
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Actually 1305 and SOC don't share the same handle. SOC's is slightly bigger.
For face-lathering 830 is excellent. It is true that its handle is small but it's also very unique and beautiful. Once its broken, you'll have a great brush, with soft bristles. Needs some time.
1305's handle is not durable, the paint is a problem every user has to deal with. Every time I use it, I have to be extra careful not hit it inside the bowl. A solution I found is to facelather only with this brush, but it's not very convenient for me. It has a nice retro style that I like and that's why I got it.

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 09-08-2015, 10:08 AM
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I've had my 1305 for 5 years and it was chipped when I got it, fell off the counter. The original owner used clear epoxy on the chip and I haven't had a problem with it since, and it gets almost daily use. I face lather with it mostly. I just picked up an 830 on the BST and it will be fun to compare the two brushes.

Clayton

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 09-09-2015, 02:21 AM
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Or you could try a 1250. While it is a different grade of hair, i couldnt tell the difference between that and the SOC which has the same grade (90% iirc) as the 1305.

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 09-13-2015, 05:56 AM
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Had a 1305 and never had a problem. Passed it on to another forum user so he can now enjoy it. Currentry breaking in my new SOC.

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