08-18-2015, 05:54 AM
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I have been wetshaving now for about 8 months.Here in Florida I was never really getting a great lather. I was using a Semogue Boar brush and was working very hard to get a lather. I switched to a brush Nathan Clark made for me with an über soft knot and it was better but still not great. So I gave in a spent .99 cents on a gallon of distiller water. Bingo what a difference. I heated a half a cup in a kettle not to a boiling point. Soaked the brush and it completely changed the soaps. Wow what a difference. So if you live in a hard water area this should be a great option.





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 08-18-2015, 05:58 AM
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  • Agravic
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Hard water is an important yet neglected determinant of poor lather, regardless of brush, soap/cream, bowl used.

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 08-18-2015, 06:31 AM
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Another method of dealing with hard water that I have read about is to add a pinch of citric acid to your shaving water. Concentrated lemon juice may even work. We have soft water so never tested this out.

Bob

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 08-18-2015, 06:45 AM
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Vermont tends to lean towards hard water.  I installed a water softener in the house and it makes a world of difference in the lather and overall shave, not to mention, sinks, dishes, clothes, skin...you name it!

I have used citric acid on the road and it does work quite well too.

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 08-18-2015, 06:49 AM
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I have moderately hard water in my home.  I have noticed a difference in the ease of lathering with softer water when visiting locations with soft water, but in reality I am a firm believer that the amount of soap loaded on your brush has much more to do with final lather quality than does water softness.  Here is a little proof of what you can whip up in-spite of hard water with one of the finickiest soaps around ! Wink

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 08-18-2015, 07:50 AM
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Nathan, It's certainly doable, just requires a lot more work.
I also have hard water where I live! Don't you love it when you are traveling and he hotel has some really soft water Smile
The water softener mentioned above sounds like a good permanent fix, I will look into it

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 08-18-2015, 08:04 AM
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(08-18-2015, 06:49 AM)merkur man Wrote: I am a firm believer that the amount of soap loaded on your brush has much more to do with final lather quality than does water softness.  
I agree as well. I live on the SW side of Austin and have 8-12" of topsoil before hitting the solid limestone of the Edward's Aquifer. 

Water doesn't get much harder and I have no trouble lathering even the soaps with the worst reputation. The load is key in all cases...

Having said that, I do enjoy softer water on the road but it is really just a bonus!

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 08-18-2015, 08:06 AM
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 08-18-2015, 08:16 AM
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I live in the mountains of Pa.I'm on well water that was not just hard but smelled like rotten eggs & had an Ecoli problem!This was my solution;For $5000 & 24hours of work you too can have a great shaving water Biggrin
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 08-18-2015, 08:16 AM
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(08-18-2015, 07:50 AM)1SOAP Wrote: Nathan, It's certainly doable, just requires a lot more work.

I don't find that it's much more work at all. The lather pictured above took no more than 2 minutes start to finish.


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 08-18-2015, 08:20 AM
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Cosmetologist told a California Blonde hard water was bad for her skin; she threw out her ice cube trays. I finally realized my water was a problem when my Merkur HD looked like a icebreaker with all the lime buildup. When people chance to see the bottle of soft water for shaving they think me eccentric. I watch far to many toss half full plastic water bottles in the trash dumpster next to a suffering sycamore in our drought Facepalm

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 08-18-2015, 09:38 AM
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(08-18-2015, 08:16 AM)merkur man Wrote:
(08-18-2015, 07:50 AM)1SOAP Wrote: Nathan, It's certainly doable, just requires a lot more work.
I don't find that it's much more work at all. The lather pictured above took no more than 2 minutes start to finish.

When you face-lather, it doesn't seem like work, at all. Biggrin

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 08-18-2015, 12:45 PM
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(08-18-2015, 06:31 AM)BobH Wrote: Another method of dealing with hard water that I have read about is to add a pinch of citric acid to your shaving water. Concentrated lemon juice may even work. We have soft water so never tested this out.

Bob

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 08-18-2015, 03:19 PM
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We supposedly have hard water here in the Cleveland area. Actually, according to some water hardness map I found online, we have extremely hard water. I've not noticed a difference using distilled water, but I guess I didn't try a bunch of different soaps. Perhaps the soap used is another variable.

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 08-18-2015, 03:30 PM
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I have very hard water in Copenhagen, Denmark.

I always use more product to try to minimize the problem, my Superlather is just one way to achieve that.
Another is to simply accept that I have to spend 7-8 minutes to build my final lather.

I have stayed in places with soft water, and wupti, final lather can be made in 3-4 minutes or even less time.

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 08-18-2015, 03:32 PM
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(08-18-2015, 09:38 AM)celestino Wrote:
(08-18-2015, 08:16 AM)merkur man Wrote:
(08-18-2015, 07:50 AM)1SOAP Wrote: Nathan, It's certainly doable, just requires a lot more work.
I don't find that it's much more work at all. The lather pictured above took no more than 2 minutes start to finish.

When you face-lather, it doesn't seem like work, at all. Biggrin

We have a winner ladies and gents! Biggrin

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 08-18-2015, 04:01 PM
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(08-18-2015, 03:32 PM)hrfdez Wrote:
(08-18-2015, 09:38 AM)celestino Wrote:
(08-18-2015, 08:16 AM)merkur man Wrote: I don't find that it's much more work at all. The lather pictured above took no more than 2 minutes start to finish.

When you face-lather, it doesn't seem like work, at all. Biggrin

We have a winner ladies and gents! Biggrin

Agreed Celestino and Hector!

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 08-18-2015, 04:09 PM
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(08-18-2015, 03:30 PM)CHSeifert Wrote: I have very hard water in Copenhagen, Denmark.

I always use more product to try to minimize the problem, my Superlather is just one way to achieve that.
Another is to simply accept that I have to spend 7-8 minutes to build my final lather.

I have stayed in places with soft water, and wupti, final lather can be made in 3-4 minutes or even less time.

7-8 minutes!!! Shocked WOW!!!! That is a long time... I think I might invest in a water softener at that point Claus!  All joking aside, I'll admit to having spent a good 5 minutes getting Mystic Waters soap to give me the lather I want, so I can't pretend to be too shocked at 7-8 minutes.

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 08-18-2015, 04:37 PM
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FOR POKKER CLAUS! once more, it's push, lift, ,drop,push and repeat. NOT round and round and round! O.K. people, lets try this one more time before we run out of light and get rammed by some Swedish cargo ship full of Volvos.[Image: ffZuqXM.jpg]

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 08-18-2015, 04:39 PM
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7-8 minutes!!! Shocked WOW!!!! That is a long time... I think I might invest in a water softener at that point Claus!  All joking aside, I'll admit to having spent a good 5 minutes getting Mystic Waters soap to give me the lather I want, so I can't pretend to be too shocked at 7-8 minutes.

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I love Mystic Water's Scent and post shave....when I can get it to lather.

There's a bit of magic needed for the suckers.

I find that MW really hates HEAT..... that always seems to be my downfall.

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