06-26-2012, 02:49 PM
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What are the differences between the two? How does each compare to the 1305? And if you have both which do you like better why or why not?

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 06-26-2012, 03:38 PM
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  • Johnny
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The 2000 has a longer loft than the SOC or 1305. The SOC has a higher grad boar and is packed more densely. All three of the brushes are different. I had all three and sold my 2000. That probably does not help much, but that's all I can give you for now. Hopefully Emanuel will jump in. He is Mr. Semogue.

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 06-26-2012, 07:24 PM
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I will go for the 2000 first and later for the SOC.

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 06-27-2012, 05:13 AM
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Hummm... that depends for what your preferences are, and what do you expect of your new brush. Do you prefer soaps or creams? Where do you lather? In a bowl, in the face, or in the hand?

The 2000 is a typical barbers' brush. It is used by many barbers in Portugal. Long loft, large knot, very soft and with moderate density. I found it more suitable to use in a bowl.

The 1305 is the jack-of-all-trades. It does everything well. Bowl-lather, face-lather, soaps, creams, you name it.

The SOC is the denser of them all. Although it was developed by (and thinking of) face-latherers (am I right, Teiste?Biggrin), I found it extremely effective on the bowl also.

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 06-27-2012, 06:34 AM
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I have the Semogue SOC, 1250 and 1305, I'm quite satisfied with all three, and haven't found it necessary to try the 2000. Smile

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 06-27-2012, 10:55 AM
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Crypto, I have both and enjoy both. What others have said is true. The 2000 is longer ~58mm loft w/ a ~26mm knot. The SOC is 54/24 (at least mine are), but a little more dense.

If I could only have one, being a face latherer, it would probably be the SOC.

JMHO

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 06-27-2012, 11:49 AM
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I had asked the exact same question back a few months ago and received many helpful responses. http://shavenook.com/thread-semogue-2000...ner-s-club

Naturally, I have since ended up with both of them and am glad that I did so. Both brushes are not completely broken in yet, I'd estimate that they are 50% broken in. They are usable right out of the box, but of course get better with time.

Other than size, I won't compare it to my 1305 as of yet, as that brush is completely broken in - an apples and orange thing.

I'm glad that I asked the question that you have, because the SOC gets a lot of attention, but the 2000 is a pretty tremendous brush. I would compare it to the Omega Pro 49 which it blows away. If I had to buy only one brush (perish the thought), I would go with the 2000 over the SOC.

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 06-27-2012, 02:26 PM
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(06-27-2012, 11:49 AM)redrako Wrote: I had asked the exact same question back a few months ago and received many helpful responses. http://shavenook.com/thread-semogue-2000...ner-s-club

Naturally, I have since ended up with both of them and am glad that I did so. Both brushes are not completely broken in yet, I'd estimate that they are 50% broken in. They are usable right out of the box, but of course get better with time.

Other than size, I won't compare it to my 1305 as of yet, as that brush is completely broken in - an apples and orange thing.

I'm glad that I asked the question that you have, because the SOC gets a lot of attention, but the 2000 is a pretty tremendous brush. I would compare it to the Omega Pro 49 which it blows away. If I had to buy only one brush (perish the thought), I would go with the 2000 over the SOC.

Robert, just out of curiosity, do you bowl, or face lather?

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 06-27-2012, 04:16 PM
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They are both fantastic brushes.

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 06-27-2012, 06:38 PM
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(06-27-2012, 02:26 PM)PanchoVilla Wrote:
(06-27-2012, 11:49 AM)redrako Wrote: I had asked the exact same question back a few months ago and received many helpful responses. http://shavenook.com/thread-semogue-2000...ner-s-club

Naturally, I have since ended up with both of them and am glad that I did so. Both brushes are not completely broken in yet, I'd estimate that they are 50% broken in. They are usable right out of the box, but of course get better with time.

Other than size, I won't compare it to my 1305 as of yet, as that brush is completely broken in - an apples and orange thing.

I'm glad that I asked the question that you have, because the SOC gets a lot of attention, but the 2000 is a pretty tremendous brush. I would compare it to the Omega Pro 49 which it blows away. If I had to buy only one brush (perish the thought), I would go with the 2000 over the SOC.

Robert, just out of curiosity, do you bowl, or face lather?

Bob, I primarily face lather mostly using a variety of brushes, mostly Semogue boars over the past 1.5 years since my wife gave me a Semogue 1305 for a Valentines Day gift. Since then I've added an 1800, 1460 (mostly for shave sticks), 1250 and most recently the SOC boar and 2000.

For my first year I bowl lathered C.O. Bigelow with the scruffy Tweezerman (not always pleasant, but passable) but once I discovered Tabac and boar brushes it's been mostly soaps and sticks when rushed for time.

I still occasionally bowl lather some Bigelow or Real Shave Company cream and enjoy it much. I've used both the SOC and 2000 a few times for bowl lathering and although it's a pleasant experience, I know that as they break in further they will be fantastic.

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 06-28-2012, 06:59 AM
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(06-27-2012, 06:38 PM)redrako Wrote: Bob, I primarily face lather mostly using a variety of brushes, mostly Semogue boars over the past 1.5 years since my wife gave me a Semogue 1305 for a Valentines Day gift. Since then I've added an 1800, 1460 (mostly for shave sticks), 1250 and most recently the SOC boar and 2000.

Robert - I'm curious as to your impression of the Semogue 1250 and 1800 brushes. The 1250 was my first Semogue brush, and I have since acquired the SOC and 1305 as well.

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 06-28-2012, 08:03 AM
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(06-28-2012, 06:59 AM)wknicholas Wrote:
(06-27-2012, 06:38 PM)redrako Wrote: Bob, I primarily face lather mostly using a variety of brushes, mostly Semogue boars over the past 1.5 years since my wife gave me a Semogue 1305 for a Valentines Day gift. Since then I've added an 1800, 1460 (mostly for shave sticks), 1250 and most recently the SOC boar and 2000.

Robert - I'm curious as to your impression of the Semogue 1250 and 1800 brushes. The 1250 was my first Semogue brush, and I have since acquired the SOC and 1305 as well.

Nick, I enjoy them both very much as well as the 1305. I am very much of the "you can't go wrong with Semogue" school. Each brush has it's unique characteristics, but they are all excellent.

My 1800 is over a year old so it's completely broken in, whereas my 1250 is just reaching the truly broken in stage where it's just getting as soft tipped as the 1800 and the 1460 which has it the same bristle as the 1250, but 5mm shorter loft.

The 1800 is a remarkable brush. With it's mixture of "extra" and "premium" grade hair, it took longer to break in than my other boars, but now has a wonderful combination of backbone and soft tips, more so than the "best" grade bristle in the 1250/1460 or the "premium" bristle 1305.

In short, they're all different and you can't go wrong with any of them.

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 06-28-2012, 08:25 AM
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I haven't had a bad Semogue yet.

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 06-28-2012, 08:36 AM
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Use the 2000 mainly for bowl lathering where it really excels.
The SOC is an all-arounder.

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 06-28-2012, 11:58 AM
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+1 on the SOC.

Get a 2030B while you are at it, it's a very nice brush and underrated.

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 06-28-2012, 12:21 PM
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(06-28-2012, 08:03 AM)redrako Wrote:
(06-28-2012, 06:59 AM)wknicholas Wrote:
(06-27-2012, 06:38 PM)redrako Wrote: Bob, I primarily face lather mostly using a variety of brushes, mostly Semogue boars over the past 1.5 years since my wife gave me a Semogue 1305 for a Valentines Day gift. Since then I've added an 1800, 1460 (mostly for shave sticks), 1250 and most recently the SOC boar and 2000.

Robert - I'm curious as to your impression of the Semogue 1250 and 1800 brushes. The 1250 was my first Semogue brush, and I have since acquired the SOC and 1305 as well.

Nick, I enjoy them both very much as well as the 1305. I am very much of the "you can't go wrong with Semogue" school. Each brush has it's unique characteristics, but they are all excellent.

My 1800 is over a year old so it's completely broken in, whereas my 1250 is just reaching the truly broken in stage where it's just getting as soft tipped as the 1800 and the 1460 which has it the same bristle as the 1250, but 5mm shorter loft.

The 1800 is a remarkable brush. With it's mixture of "extra" and "premium" grade hair, it took longer to break in than my other boars, but now has a wonderful combination of backbone and soft tips, more so than the "best" grade bristle in the 1250/1460 or the "premium" bristle 1305.

In short, they're all different and you can't go wrong with any of them.

Thanks, Robert - your experience with Semogue brushes mirrors my own.

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 07-04-2012, 05:36 AM
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I primarily use one of about a dozen higher end badgers and my own restorations (various TGN knots).

On a whim I bought a 1305. I've come to like it enough that it's elbowing its way to the front of the pack! I've since ordered a SOC also, yet to arrive. I had the same question; SOC or 2000? I chose what I did because I like a lot of backbone and shy away from what I think might be on the floppy side.

We'll soon find out...

Grande

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