06-28-2012, 06:40 AM
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I seem to have very hard water and will probably start avoiding soaps that are known to be hard to lather because I simply can't get a good shave with a thin layer of lather on my face.

So far the tallow-based soaps I've used that have the best latherability are ARKO and TABAC.

Are there any other tallow-based soaps that, like ARKO and TABAC, easily explode with lather?

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 06-28-2012, 06:47 AM
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  • Tonality
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Have you considered using distilled water? It has saved my shave routine from the hard water I have. I have a pretty simple setup too. I have a mug that I keep distilled water in which I use to soak my brush and to dip the tips in when lathering up. Otherwise I shave as normal and I'm able to use any soap I want. I only need to refill the mug ever couple of days, and a gallon of distilled water is usually only $1 at the store.

How hard is my water you ask? The city sent out a notice saying it's no longer safe to drink.

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 06-28-2012, 08:17 AM
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  • Johnny
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Some say it's impossible, but I can lather MWF with any water you have to get a thick/rich creamy lather.

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 06-28-2012, 08:30 AM
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  • Teiste
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D.R. Harris soaps.
Irisch Moos shaving stick.
Palmolive,Wilkinson,Speick and new Lea shaving sticks.La Toja too and the sterates are from tallow.
Dr Selby shaving cream on a bowl ( its Stearic Acid comes from tallow).

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 06-28-2012, 08:54 AM
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Mike's Natural Soaps
P.160
TABAC, but you already know this
MWF, according to my town water supply I have "very hard water" and still can get a thick & creamy lather with MWF.
Cella

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 06-28-2012, 08:59 AM
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(06-28-2012, 08:17 AM)Johnny Wrote: Some say it's impossible, but I can lather MWF with any water you have to get a thick/rich creamy lather.

I must have fairly soft water, since I have absolutely no problem producing plenty of outstanding lather with MWF! Smile

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 06-28-2012, 09:11 AM
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RazoRock artisan line soaps are easy to lather, contain tallow except for Muget de France.

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 06-28-2012, 11:25 AM
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  • njpaddy
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My well water gave me fits with a lot of products early on and I found using distilled water a hassle. These days I don't seem to have a problem using well water, but besides experience I think a lot also has to do with having a good brush. My best lathering soaps besides Tabac are:

DR Harris Arlington
DR Harris Lavender
GFT Rose (maybe I have one of the good bowls of the non-tallow version)
La Toja shave stick (non-tallow)

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 06-28-2012, 03:23 PM
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Well, there might be another solution since I'm not precisely sure what are and aren't tallow based...

Have you tried any creams? One solution for hard water is using more product and that is very easy to do with a cream. It's independent of what brush you're using and how easily it loads.

I'm not much of a cream person, so others might be able to help if you are open to them.

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 06-28-2012, 10:33 PM
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(06-28-2012, 03:23 PM)ShadowsDad Wrote: Well, there might be another solution since I'm not precisely sure what are and aren't tallow based...

Have you tried any creams? One solution for hard water is using more product and that is very easy to do with a cream. It's independent of what brush you're using and how easily it loads.

I'm not much of a cream person, so others might be able to help if you are open to them.

Thats another good option,however,when we have discovered the goodies of shaving soaps,hard to go back to creams...

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 06-30-2012, 03:39 PM
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(06-28-2012, 06:40 AM)Pnume Wrote: I seem to have very hard water and will probably start avoiding soaps that are known to be hard to lather because I simply can't get a good shave with a thin layer of lather on my face.

So far the tallow-based soaps I've used that have the best latherability are ARKO and TABAC.

Are there any other tallow-based soaps that, like ARKO and TABAC, easily explode with lather?
All of the Mike's Natural Soaps create voluminous amounts of lather for me quite easily. YMMV

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 07-01-2012, 03:37 AM
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  • Sully
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My understanding is that if you have hard water you need to use more product.
Give the Razorock Artisan line a try, it's one of my top five soaps, and if you need to use more it isn't so expensive that you are going to feel the pinch in your wallet.
Haslinger is a highly under rated tallow based soap.
AOS and Valobra are both great soaps but AOS costs more, it's worth it in my opinion but if you need to use a lot of product it's something to keep in mind. I've been able to pick up AOS refills for 50% off several times and they become a pretty good value at that price point.

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 07-01-2012, 05:09 AM
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Using distilled water could be inexpensive solution....

Julian

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 07-02-2012, 01:42 AM
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  • GreekGuy
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I have extremely hard water and have no issues lathering any soaps (except williams)

There are some good tallow soaps out there, but my personal opinion is you're missing out on a lot of very good (dare I say better) ones

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 07-02-2012, 05:18 AM
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  • Leon
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I'd say any D.R.Harris soap.
Also, all Italian soaps are easy to lather.

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 07-02-2012, 05:22 AM
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+1 for...

1) It isn't the water.

2) Razorock Artisan Soaps. One of the easiest lathering products in any category with great performance and scents.

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 07-02-2012, 05:50 AM
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D.R. Harris, the tallow Woods of Windsor...

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 07-02-2012, 07:31 AM
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  • Teiste
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(07-02-2012, 05:50 AM)oversaturn Wrote: D.R. Harris, the tallow Woods of Windsor...

Tallow Woods of Windsor,great soap,but very,very hard to get/find,I would say.

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