10-11-2015, 01:05 PM
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I’ve restored a BUNCH of shaving brushes over the last five years. I know, some brushes should (need to, must) have the patina preserved. . .especially when it’s butterscotch. For example, vintage Simpsons, Rooney’s, etc.
 
But, what about other brushes? You know, those “other” Bakelite and Catalin handles. Lol
 
 
When one comes across my bench. . . .my curiosity screams and an insatiable desire to remove the old patina races to the surface. It’s so bad. . .I feel like one of those wide-eyed, drooling emots.   lol
 
 
Don’t get me wrong, I know how to exercise restraint. . . . .
 

BEFORE. . . .
 
 
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AFTER. . . . .
 

 
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BEFORE. . . .
 

 
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AFTER. . . . .
 

 
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But. . . . .there are times. . . .when restraint does not exist. . . .
 
 
BEFORE. . . .
 
 
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AFTER. . . . .
 

 
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BEFORE. . . .
 

 
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AFTER. . . . .
 

 
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Well, I'm faced with another. . . .”restraint or not” brush on my bench.  Only a glimpse for now.  
 
Most of the lower is the brown-ish color you see in the picture.  Except for those little hints of green sneaking out.
 
 
 
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So, what do you think?  Should I break out the heavy equipment or not?  lol

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 10-11-2015, 01:09 PM
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Depends. If it is sentimental I would leave it all original. If your doing it for profit or just to restore it I would restore it completely.  As you know on some things removing the patina kills the value. I think brushes would be the opposite. Then again I have no idea what I'm talking about either...

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 10-11-2015, 04:47 PM
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Lovely restorations and I would go for it! I love colour! Biggrin

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 10-11-2015, 05:43 PM
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I say restore it to its original beauty. I'm not a fan of patina.  It's just a fancy woRd developed to describe dirt oils crud and other such undesirables.

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 10-11-2015, 05:56 PM
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Patination sometimes IS the original finish. I've lost track of all the valuable firearms sanded shiny to get rid of 'that brown finish' The late actor Carrol O'Connor owned a collector car restoration service out my way. Car enthusiasts HATED the man. His crew would over polish, buff, sand,grind and clean up cars destroying the original surfaces and even destroy OEM parts that could not be refinished (protocol calls for leaving those as is ) and fabricate awfull replacements.
Some items gain character with patination. It's the badge of maturity and experience. But seeing your results and knowing the small intrinsic value of generic brushes- do it and have fun.

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 10-11-2015, 06:41 PM
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I agree with all the above. Clean that baby up!

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 10-12-2015, 05:49 AM
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I appreciate the comments and input. 
 
Here's the brush. 
 
 
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It’s very similar to a Rubberset 400. . .just not aluminum.
 
 
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Before I move on with the restoration, I need to do some preliminary testing to see what the lower is made of – Bakelite, Catalin, Celluloid, or French Bakelite (Galalith).  The reason. . . .certain materials can be hazardous to work with, such as Bakelite.  An often used filler used in Bakelite manufacturing. . . . asbestos. 
 
Based on the coloration of the base, I pretty much eliminated the possibility of it being Bakelite.  But, I need to know for sure.
 
 
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I dipped a Q-Tip in 409 and applied it to the base of the handle.  In theory, there should be a transfer of material to the Q-Tip and it should be yellow or a yellow-ish color.  This didn’t happen.  I suspect due to the amount or thickness of the patina that has developed on the handle.  The only thing removed was a little, brownish tint of crud. 
 
I loaded a Q-Tip with “Simichrome” and applied it to the base.  The same results, as I did with the 409.
 
Another testing method is running hot water over the material, for 20 or 30 seconds, and smelling.  Bakelite and Catalin should smell like formaldehyde (Bakelite typically has a very strong formaldehyde aroma), Celluloid will smell like camphor (menthol aroma) and French Bakelite (Galalith) smells like burnt milk.  This too failed to give me an idea of what it is.  Again, I think it’s due to the thickness or amount of the patina that has developed.
 
I decided to remove some of the patina on the base, using 800 grit wet/dry sandpaper.  Once I broke thru the patina, I was able to obtain the “yellow” transfer of material onto the sandpaper.  The swirling in the material and the light aroma of formaldehyde tells me it’s Catalin.
 
 
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 10-12-2015, 05:50 AM
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(10-11-2015, 05:43 PM)chromedometone Wrote: I say restore it to its original beauty. I'm not a fan of patina.  It's just a fancy woRd developed to describe dirt oils crud and other such undesirables.


I couldn't agree more.

A cleaning with Dawn dishwashing soap and an old toothbrush.
 
 
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 10-17-2015, 07:21 AM
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Looking forward to see how this one progresses through the restoration.  Should be a keeper when it is done.

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 10-17-2015, 01:19 PM
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I'm slipping (too many irons in the fire).  lol


Initial sanding. . . 


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A better perspective when wet. . . 


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Progressing up the handle. . . .


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Starting on the scallops. . . .



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 10-17-2015, 04:54 PM
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I'm normally a "petina" guy, but that's looking really good.

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 10-17-2015, 05:40 PM
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It's beginning to look better.  Whoever used the brush used it a lot.  Definitely a bowl latherer, due to the copious amounts of superficial scratches.  Either heavy handed or used a concrete bowl.  lol

What has surprised me the most. . .the shade of green.

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 10-17-2015, 07:26 PM
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Great work and that is a lovely shade of green! I am anticipating the finished handle!  Thumbsup

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 10-18-2015, 11:51 AM
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In retrospect; when we shave, turn sideways in the mirror to assess our diet and momentarily stand up straight isn't THAT removing patination?

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 10-18-2015, 02:23 PM
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(10-18-2015, 11:51 AM)kav Wrote: In retrospect; when we shave, turn sideways in the mirror to assess our diet and momentarily stand up straight isn't THAT removing patination?


Number_one


Only if you squint hard.

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 10-18-2015, 10:56 PM
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Wow, great work!

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 10-19-2015, 03:35 AM
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Thanks.



A little more work yesterday. . . . .


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And began working the ferrule. . . .


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 10-22-2015, 05:09 AM
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I'm trying to preserve the "branding" on the front and back of the ferrule.  Light sanding.



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Here is where I become Picasso. . . .and trying a new painting technique/method (materials used).




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 10-24-2015, 05:19 AM
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I'm late to this thread, but I think you made the right call. That brush is looking beautiful! Thumbup

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 10-25-2015, 01:40 PM
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Thanks.

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