10-18-2015, 04:56 PM
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I traded my Merkur Futur last month for the R41 by Muhle. My everyday razor was the Muhle R89. The shaves I have been getting from the R41 have been far superior to anything else I have ever used.
This razor is amazing.

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 10-18-2015, 04:58 PM
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  • chamm
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You'll get no argument from me. Smile My only complaint about the R41 is the choice of material. (Zamak) However, you probably couldn't do the R41 design in any other material, so I suppose you take the good with the bad.

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 10-18-2015, 05:04 PM
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Love it or hate it, it is a unique razor.

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 10-18-2015, 05:56 PM
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Congratulations on taming the Beast! Smile

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 10-18-2015, 06:21 PM
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  • Chaddy
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If you like the R41 you should try a ikon tech.

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 10-18-2015, 06:59 PM
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(10-18-2015, 06:21 PM)Chaddy Wrote: If you like the R41 you should try a ikon tech.

Ya, the Tech is pretty amazing.

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 10-18-2015, 07:03 PM
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Yep. As good as the R41 is, I sold mine shortly after getting my Tech.

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 10-18-2015, 10:12 PM
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The Muhle R41 head (2011 and 2013 versions) and the ATT H1 and H2 baseplates are my daily drivers, I rarely reach for anything else. And while I find the ATTs to be somewhat more aggressive/effective (the H1 than the R41 2013 and the H2 than the R41 2011, respectively), I continue to consider Muhle's OC as superb - precise, comfortable and very effective.
Now, some of you gentlemen have said that the iKon Tech head beats the R41 in terms of aggression/effectiveness. Which brings me to a question ...
Last year a friend of mine gave me the following head - a Wizamet P-1 Junior with the bar filed completely away:

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However, although this head looks really aggressive, dangerous even, I found it to be relatively mild, on a par with the iKon Standard Bar/ATT R1 baseplate; nice shavers, but for me - nothing special. I had to put it on a heavy handle (ATT Colossus) for it to work properly, and even then, even with a new Feather inserted, I was forced to press down here and there. In other words: certainly no match for the R41.
From the pictures that I've seen of the iKon Tech, its similarity with my friend's 'invention' is considerable. Am I correct in my surmise - or wrong?

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 10-19-2015, 05:07 AM
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  • kwsher
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This past year I have been primarily using heads with more exposure/gap, including the R41 and Tech. I guess I would say they are similar in effectiveness but offer different shave feels to me.

Like both, use both and enjoy having both as options.

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 10-19-2015, 10:47 AM
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OK, I understand. But could someone post a close-up of the iKon Tech with blade inserted? That would clear a lot of things up for me. Smile

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 10-19-2015, 09:36 PM
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(10-18-2015, 04:58 PM)chamm Wrote: You'll get no argument from me. Smile My only complaint about the R41 is the choice of material. (Zamak) However, you probably couldn't do the R41 design in any other material, so I suppose you take the good with the bad.

What makes you think that the r41 cant be done in anything besides Zamak?

I love the shave you cant get out of 2 passes on either versions of the r41. I am planning on picking up a Tech sometime soon.

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 10-20-2015, 02:15 AM
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If you want to improve the efficiency of the 2013 R41, use the Aimsport Spitfire custom top-cap.  It even improves the 2011.  
And by the way, as of this morning the Tech is out of stock at iKon Razors.

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 10-21-2015, 03:02 PM
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  • carvelo
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(10-18-2015, 04:58 PM)chamm Wrote: You'll get no argument from me. Smile My only complaint about the R41 is the choice of material. (Zamak) However, you probably couldn't do the R41 design in any other material, so I suppose you take the good with the bad.

My complaint too.  Even the Jagger has a heavier handle.  Not by much.

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 10-22-2015, 07:03 PM
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(10-21-2015, 03:02 PM)carvelo Wrote:
(10-18-2015, 04:58 PM)chamm Wrote: You'll get no argument from me. Smile My only complaint about the R41 is the choice of material. (Zamak) However, you probably couldn't do the R41 design in any other material, so I suppose you take the good with the bad.

My complaint too.  Even the Jagger has a heavier handle.  Not by much.

The R41 Twist has a heavier handle. Larger diameter also. For weight the R41 Twist is 85 grams, the R41 standard 2013 is 65 grams, and the R41 Grande is 80 grams. The handle diameter on the Twist is 14.5 mm and the standard handle is 12.5 mm. If you want a little more heft get a Twist version.

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