10-29-2015, 05:52 PM
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I just got a Semogue 1800 brush today. I know there has been a lot of praise for boar brushes here but I just want to say that the Semogue 1800 seems to be a unique brush. I believe it's the only Semogue whose bristles are made up of Extra 75% tops mixed with Premium 90% tops. To me anyway, it seems to have just the right amount of backbone. It's not even broken in yet and I already like it better than any other boar brush I have tried for face lathering.
Tonight I bowl lathered with it but I really bought for face lathering. I'm so excited about it I feel like ordering a back-up just in case they stop making them. Great brush. 

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 10-29-2015, 06:14 PM
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Looks like a terrific brush. Love my SOC, wish that it held a bit more lather, but it is really soft, if not a bit wild and crazy  Wink . The handles are really ergonomic as well. 
Looking forward to seeing your SOTD's with the new  SmiliePig .

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 10-29-2015, 06:15 PM
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  • Shanman
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My first boar, and I loved it.

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 10-29-2015, 06:16 PM
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Congratulations and that is a lovely brush! It looks like you had a great shave! Thumbsup

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 10-30-2015, 05:56 AM
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I love my Semogue 1800. I've had mine for more than 3 years and still holding strong. Its my favorite knot out of all Semogue's offerings and wish they had this knot in an SOC handle instead. Enjoy it in good health for many shaves.

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 10-30-2015, 09:35 AM
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I change brushes so much that I don't think I have a boar brush that I can say is fully broken in. I will force myself to use this brush at least every other shave until it has 30 shaves on it. Then I can really judge how it performs compared to my other brushes. So far I am very impressed with it. It is a unique brush.

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 11-03-2015, 08:36 AM
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Of my vast collection of semogue boars (and other brands as well, and that link nreally needs to be updated!), the Semogue 1800 brush is one of my favourite boar brushes. It is somewhat similar to the 1250 and 1305, but the knot is made of a mix of bristle hairs - Extra 75% mixed with Premium 90%.


This gives it a little more backbone, which makes it an excellent tool for dealing with hard soaps, either in a bowl or in face-lathering. The wooden handle is a nice touch also, and it is very ergonomic.

Unlike other brushes, where backbone is a result of an increase in knot density, the Semogue 1800 gets its density from the type of hair used in it.

And that really works well - that allows it to have a good amount of backbone without the need of an extra dense knot. And that moderate density gives it a great flow-through, allowing it to be an extremely effective brush, producing quickly great amounts of lather, and releasing it easily.

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 11-03-2015, 09:16 AM
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Love Semogue brushes, will have to pick one up.

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 11-05-2015, 10:05 AM
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How is the 1800's splay compared to the other Semogues?

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 11-05-2015, 11:51 AM
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(11-05-2015, 10:05 AM)Galhatz Wrote: How is the 1800's splay compared to the other Semogues?

It is in a class by itself. It uses a different combo of boar hairs not like any other Semogue brush. If someone was only going to buy just one boar brush, I would highly recommend the Semogue 1800.

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 11-05-2015, 12:38 PM
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I have the green and white one which I think is the 1305. I really like it and boars in general. How does the 1800 differ aside from the handle finish?

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 11-05-2015, 01:01 PM
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(11-05-2015, 12:38 PM)jazzman Wrote: I have the green and white one which I think is the 1305. I really like it and boars in general. How does the 1800 differ aside from the handle finish?

Didn't you read the first post? The hairs are different.

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 11-05-2015, 02:23 PM
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(11-05-2015, 01:01 PM)shave/brush Wrote:
(11-05-2015, 12:38 PM)jazzman Wrote: I have the green and white one which I think is the 1305. I really like it and boars in general. How does the 1800 differ aside from the handle finish?

Didn't you read the first post? The hairs are different.

Aggressive little feller aren't ya? I was hoping that someone would tell me how they differ. But I suppose I will live with the fact that the 1305 is NOT made up of a 75% Extra, 90% Premium mix. Which by the way adds up to 165%?

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 11-05-2015, 02:40 PM
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(11-05-2015, 02:23 PM)jazzman Wrote: I was hoping that someone would tell me how they differ. But I suppose I will live with the fact that the 1305 is NOT made up of a 75% Extra, 90% Premium mix. Which by the way adds up to 165%?

The 90% Premium and the 75% Extra refers to a type of boar hair used. It is not the percentage of hair used in the brush.  You can find this information on the Semogue site.

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 11-05-2015, 08:33 PM
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I think Jazzman meant how do they differ feel/performance-wise.


The grade/percentages/combos chart that Semogue published was a brilliant marketings step (not sure if intended though) since it created a huge amount of discussion about the brushes without actually discussing how the brushes perform. It made people speculate how grade X may feel if mixed with grade Y, which I find to be a rather tedious exercise as there are other factors that makeup a brush, rendering the speculation less relevant. However, that mental involvement is very good for creating product awareness. 


The ask is simple: these brushes (1800,1250,1305, etc) look nice. I'd like to get one or another one. Not sure which one, if you happen to have more than one, how would you describe the difference based on your experience? 

That has less to do with charts and more to do with personal experience and opinion. Anyone can go to Semogue's/bullgoose website and speculate. We come here to share personal opinion in a discussion based on actual experience.

One can also just plunk down $20 and try. Its not a big deal. We are here because we find it interesting what others think.

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 11-05-2015, 08:49 PM
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(11-05-2015, 08:33 PM)Galhatz Wrote: I think Jazzman meant how do they differ feel/performance-wise.

That is not what he asked in his original post. As I said in my first post, I think the 1800 has just the right amount of backbone. It's my favorite boar brush so far.

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 11-06-2015, 04:48 AM
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(11-05-2015, 02:23 PM)jazzman Wrote:
(11-05-2015, 01:01 PM)shave/brush Wrote:
(11-05-2015, 12:38 PM)jazzman Wrote: I have the green and white one which I think is the 1305. I really like it and boars in general. How does the 1800 differ aside from the handle finish?

Didn't you read the first post? The hairs are different.

Aggressive little feller aren't ya? I was hoping that someone would tell me how they differ. But I suppose I will live with the fact that the 1305 is NOT made up of a 75% Extra, 90% Premium mix. Which by the way adds up to 165%?

Jazzman,

To be honest from what I read, the 1305 becomes floppy over time.  I do not feel that will be an issue at all with the Semogue 1800.  I have moved onto badgers, but the 1800 is one of the two boars I kept along with the Omega 49.

I feel like the tips of the 1800 are very soft, yet the brush splays and has very very nice backbone, a soap-killer in fact.  Honestly, other than the Omega 49, I feel like overall, most folks would be surprised with a broken in Semogue of any kind if they haven't tried one before.  They become very soft compared to some of the Omegas I've had which all went right back out the door.

I highly recommend the 1800, heck its only like 18 or 20 bucks right?  Try it out.  Give it about 20 lathers or so and you'll feel some nice softness from a boar brush.

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 11-06-2015, 07:19 AM
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(11-06-2015, 04:48 AM)SCShaver Wrote:  I have moved onto badgers, but the 1800 is one of the two boars I kept along with the Omega 49.

I feel like the tips of the 1800 are very soft, yet the brush splays and has very very nice backbone, a soap-killer in fact.

These are the same 2 boars that I have, Semogue 1800 and the Omega Pro 49.  All the rest I've had went out the door as well.

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 11-06-2015, 07:37 AM
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(11-06-2015, 07:19 AM)shave/brush Wrote:
(11-06-2015, 04:48 AM)SCShaver Wrote:  I have moved onto badgers, but the 1800 is one of the two boars I kept along with the Omega 49.

I feel like the tips of the 1800 are very soft, yet the brush splays and has very very nice backbone, a soap-killer in fact.

These are the same 2 boars that I have, Semogue 1800 and the Omega Pro 49.  All the rest I've had went out the door as well.

Yeah I just found like softer brushes and these two in particular are kind to my face.  I think the Semogue 1800 is a very underrated brush and its a good midsized knot although I typically prefer a huge knot like the Omega 49 has.

I do agree with your original post though, the Semogue 1800 is a very unique brush and if one is going to try a boar, its definitely a keeper based on its feel and backbone properties.  Plus it has an awesome handle I like a lot too.

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 11-06-2015, 08:18 AM
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(11-05-2015, 08:33 PM)Galhatz Wrote: I think Jazzman meant how do they differ feel/performance-wise.


[...]


The ask is simple: these brushes (1800,1250,1305, etc) look nice. I'd like to get one or another one. Not sure which one, if you happen to have more than one, how would you describe the difference based on your experience? 

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The 1800 and the 1305 are two different brushes. Which one will be your favourite may depend on your personal taste...


The 1800 has slightly more backbone, and one of the brushes that I like the most when I use an hard soap. It will take a little longer to break-in than the 1305, but nothing serious.
Also the 1800 will not "bloom" as much as the 1305/830 models, and because of that, it will feel more "compact" in the face.
I consider the 1800 one of the best soaps to use with hard soaps, and certainly the best at its price point.

The 1305 will "bloom" more than the 1800, will be slightly more soft on the face and with a little less backbone than the 1800. But those characteristics make it a very good "jack-of-all-trades", as it performs brilliantly with either soaps or creams, bowl or facelathering.



Said that, the 1800 is one of my favourite boar brushes.
I have another brush that, despite being slightly different in characteristics, shares many similarities in face feel and efficacy with the Semogue 1800. It is the Omega 11126 - and that one is also on my short list of favourite boar brushes. I believe that if someone likes the Semogue 1800, will also easily like the Omega 11126.

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