11-07-2015, 05:01 AM
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I am wondering if I was to find a custom scale maker that can make a set of scales for my Jerry Stark razor and rather than use torx screws will pin the scales the "old fashion" way that I think is best????? 

Any idea who does great scale fabrication with a variety of scale option materials and might could do this?  Thank you.

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 11-07-2015, 05:18 AM
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  • eengler
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You may try mycarver. He is an Artisan here and you may have seen his recent posts of the restorations he does. Amazing work!

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 11-07-2015, 05:34 AM
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  • evnpar
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Max Sprecher has also done some fantastic scales for a couple of my straights.

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 11-07-2015, 06:27 AM
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The only trouble you will find the tang on your razor as now been drilled out to accommodate the torx screw fitting which is considerably larger than a 1/16 brass pin.

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 11-07-2015, 07:36 AM
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May I suggest Doc226. He recently took a Hart razor, torx screw and all, and transformed into this:
[Image: 99c80b524ace9bbc65356b7024ac467d.jpg]
Alfredo knows his way around a razor plus he's a good guy. Good luck!




~Royce

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 11-07-2015, 07:40 AM
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(11-07-2015, 06:27 AM)Jamie Mahoney Wrote: The only trouble you will find the tang on your razor as now been drilled out to accommodate the torx screw fitting which is considerably larger than a 1/16 brass pin.

I have spoken to a artisan that knows this and he can do it without issue.  And yes, I thought that too when I first gave this thought.

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 11-07-2015, 07:41 AM
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Thanks guys!  I found a guy who does this in the down time between posting and researching.  We are speaking business and cost as I type this.  I am looking to a translucent jade green poly to rehouse the JS razor!  Hopefully it will come to fruition and solve the issue at hand so this razor will be a keeper.

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 11-07-2015, 07:43 AM
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(11-07-2015, 07:36 AM)DudeAbides Wrote: May I suggest Doc226. He recently took a Hart razor, torx screw and all, and transformed into this:
[Image: 99c80b524ace9bbc65356b7024ac467d.jpg]
Alfredo knows his way around a razor plus he's a good guy. Good luck!




~Royce

I will certainly keep in mind Royce if the talks with this other person does not work out.  I will certainly never buy another torx set razor!

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 11-07-2015, 09:48 AM
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In the past, I had been in correspondence with Jerry regarding his razors (he even asked if I would be interested in meeting-up with him at a gun show that took place fairly close to where I reside). I know that he's open to suggestions and constructive criticism. He asked what I thought about his scales and I frankly told him what I liked and disliked. Can I ask why you didn’t choose to have Jerry resolve the issue? I believe he would consider it further learning on his part. Jerry's backstory is pretty interesting, and he has stayed at it with his endeavor into straight razors. Eventually, I'm likely to purchase one of his razors.

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 11-07-2015, 10:42 AM
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The fix is pretty straight forward if you wanted to change it from a torx to a pin, just remove the torx then reassemble the torx screw together tightly cut down till it's th same thickness as the tang, now drill a centralized of 1/16 hole then pop it back into the pivot hole in the tang and you have a ready made bush ready to pin with a 1/16 rod.

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 11-07-2015, 12:13 PM
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(11-07-2015, 09:48 AM)Entasis Wrote: In the past, I had been in correspondence with Jerry regarding his razors (he even asked if I would be interested in meeting-up with him at a gun show that took place fairly close to where I reside). I know that he's open to suggestions and constructive criticism. He asked what I thought about his scales and I frankly told him what I liked and disliked. Can I ask why you didn’t choose to have Jerry resolve the issue? I believe he would consider it further learning on his part. Jerry's backstory is pretty interesting, and he has stayed at it with his endeavor into straight razors. Eventually, I'm likely to purchase one of his razors.

I had thought of that but I do not care for the torx system now that I have it in hand and see it and understand it's way of function.  I much prefer the traditional method of pinning.  I may contact him to give my final feedback for what I would like to see.  Now that said, what I like may not be anything anyone else likes and I am sort of a odd ball at times.

The scale material itself I have no issue with.  It is the system he uses for the pivot on the tail.  Seeing that tiny little threaded sleeve with two torx screws lends to eventual failure inevitably.  Yes pins get lose but with a small jewelers dome hammer and a very small anvil you can lightly tap the pins to retighten.  This system in place is easily stripped and just should be replaced to a traditional setup but like I stated, I am a odd ball.  My PRC razor utilizing old school pinning has not one time ever needed retightening.  And it even is constructed utilizing a spacer rather than a wedge which some purist have pointed out that PRC and like companies who use a spacer will fail.  Well, it hasn't where as all my German girls with wedges have had to be re-tapped with a domed jewelers hammer by me. 

That said, sending the blade off this coming week to get a set of translucent green scales with a green wedge/spacer and adjustment pins.  Will post results when back.  Hopefully this will be a total success because the razors edge is almost perfect.  Still work to the toe area but I think I can get that in shape with a few touch ups.

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 11-07-2015, 01:09 PM
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Fair enough. I suspect it's Max whom is rescaling your razor?

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 11-07-2015, 05:03 PM
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(11-07-2015, 01:09 PM)Entasis Wrote: Fair enough. I suspect it's Max whom is rescaling your razor?

Actually Bob Williams.

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 11-08-2015, 06:07 PM
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I would shim the large hole with brass tubing
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 11-09-2015, 12:39 PM
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Great idea!

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 11-12-2015, 09:50 AM
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Doc226,

I'd give you a "like" if I could, but I'll just settle for what we can do here: thanks for posting info on shimming.  Thumbsup

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 11-13-2015, 11:20 AM
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Now this will be utilitarian all the way my friends and while I know most not to their liking, I like the Irish green polycarbonate scales!  Sharp edges and fully screams, "Just shave with me!"  Not fancy looking hard to maintain anything here.  Can't wait to get her back.  Great job Robert Williams! 

[Image: JsfR7T5.jpg]

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 11-13-2015, 11:22 AM
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(11-08-2015, 06:07 PM)Doc226 Wrote: I would shim the large hole with brass tubing
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Great idea!

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 11-15-2015, 12:37 PM
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(11-13-2015, 11:20 AM)Str8shaver Wrote: Now this will be utilitarian all the way my friends and while I know most not to their liking, I like the Irish green polycarbonate scales!  Sharp edges and fully screams, "Just shave with me!"  Not fancy looking hard to maintain anything here.  Can't wait to get her back.  Great job Robert Williams! 

[Image: JsfR7T5.jpg]

Looks great! Bet you're eager to get this back.

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 11-15-2015, 12:53 PM
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(11-15-2015, 12:37 PM)Entasis Wrote: Most definitely!
(11-13-2015, 11:20 AM)Str8shaver Wrote: Now this will be utilitarian all the way my friends and while I know most not to their liking, I like the Irish green polycarbonate scales!  Sharp edges and fully screams, "Just shave with me!"  Not fancy looking hard to maintain anything here.  Can't wait to get her back.  Great job Robert Williams! 

[Image: JsfR7T5.jpg]

Looks great! Bet you're eager to get this back.

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