11-11-2015, 12:05 PM
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I don't understand why it is so expensive, I my self is from Manchuria and here badgar hair is not expensive at all (in American perspective). Is it just the demand is to low or is it just BS marketing.

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 11-11-2015, 12:09 PM
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oh boy, you stared it now.

Some say its a gimmick, others swear by it. I find it pretty awesome. Have 2 brushes I prefer over it (not simpson) but even with that said simpson does a great job with it and there LE line.

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 11-11-2015, 12:32 PM
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(11-11-2015, 12:09 PM)CtrlAltElite Wrote: oh boy, you stared it now.

Some say its a gimmick, others swear by it. I find it pretty awesome. Have 2 brushes I prefer over it (not simpson) but even with that said simpson does a great job with it and there LE line.
I understand that. But what qualifies a brush as "Manchurian" Manchuria is like the size of Texas.

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 11-11-2015, 12:56 PM
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(11-11-2015, 12:05 PM)penn Wrote: I don't understand why it is so expensive, I my self is from Manchuria and here badgar hair is not expensive at all (in American perspective). Is it just the demand is to low or is it just BS marketing.

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What kind of badger hair can you get your hands on and what type of purpose is it used for?  I would think like any of the grades it may be from a certain part of the badger and only be hairs that meet certain criteria within that.  So you generic badger hair you can buy at the flea market (?) may not be of the same type of quality.  Just a wild guess and if I am wrong and you can get cheap badger hair like Simpsons uses then we can make a tidy profit.

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 11-11-2015, 01:37 PM
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(11-11-2015, 12:56 PM)FSMisMyCopirate Wrote:
(11-11-2015, 12:05 PM)penn Wrote: I don't understand why it is so expensive, I my self is from Manchuria and here badgar hair is not expensive at all (in American perspective). Is it just the demand is to low or is it just BS marketing.

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What kind of badger hair can you get your hands on and what type of purpose is it used for?  I would think like any of the grades it may be from a certain part of the badger and only be hairs that meet certain criteria within that.  So you generic badger hair you can buy at the flea market (?) may not be of the same type of quality.  Just a wild guess and if I am wrong and you can get cheap badger hair like Simpsons uses then we can make a tidy profit.
Im not sure about that but going through an wholesale person the very high quality "high mountain manchurian badger hair only costs around 13$ a peice ( assuming you purchase a very large qquantity)

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 11-11-2015, 02:10 PM
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If anybody believes that scarcity is the cause for high prices on luxury goods, well, don't look behind the red curtain. 

I wish companies would just state that they are offering a high-end product made to very high standards and it is expensive because they feel it is worth it.  Simpson, along with several other high-end brands, are having no problems with sales so why make an excuse?  Saying there is a shortage of a certain type of product when there are literally thousands sold a year gets a bit tiring.

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 11-11-2015, 03:36 PM
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If anything is clear about badger hair grades is that there is no common grounds. 
I found this link very educating.

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 11-11-2015, 07:08 PM
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The wholesaler is going to send me a few samples of their finest knots

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 11-11-2015, 07:11 PM
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(11-11-2015, 02:10 PM)blzrfn Wrote: If anybody believes that scarcity is the cause for high prices on luxury goods, well, don't look behind the red curtain. 

I wish companies would just state that they are offering a high-end product made to very high standards and it is expensive because they feel it is worth it.  Simpson, along with several other high-end brands, are having no problems with sales so why make an excuse?  Saying there is a shortage of a certain type of product when there are literally thousands sold a year gets a bit tiring.
That kinda annoys me, you can get the very good (probably best) grade silver tip hairs for ~350$ per kilo

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 11-11-2015, 07:28 PM
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True penn, but what happens to the hair after that makes a huge difference

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 11-11-2015, 07:39 PM
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Never thought about that, also would what be the ideal dimension of a badger knot

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 12-01-2015, 08:13 PM
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I for one am eagerly waiting for an update to this!

I also wish that someone would do a genetic testing on the hair ( I am sure there are some very knownledgeable people here who can see that through) so we get a final answer.

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 12-01-2015, 08:41 PM
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I'm curious as well. I have a Duke 3 in Manchurian coming to me. I have 2 Shavemacs in 2-band Silvertip, and I used to have an M&F in Blonde Badger. For me, the knots of the Shavemacs and the M&F are more similar than they are different. I haven't tried an M&F in Finest though.

Personally, if the Manchurian has a bit of pleasant scrub, that would present some nice variety for me.


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 12-01-2015, 09:59 PM
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You should find the Duke 3 Manchurian to have that pleasant scrub. Shy

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 12-01-2015, 10:14 PM
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(12-01-2015, 09:59 PM)celestino Wrote: You should find the Duke 3 Manchurian to have that pleasant scrub. Shy

Thanks, Celestino! You just made the wait that much harder though!


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 12-02-2015, 07:22 AM
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(12-01-2015, 10:14 PM)Watson15 Wrote: Thanks, Celestino! You just made the wait that much harder though!

Biggrin

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 12-02-2015, 08:51 AM
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My testing of Manchurian badger has been a failure.  I'll stick to 2 band Silvertip as I get the best results.

But this is one of those ymmv situations.

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 12-02-2015, 10:35 AM
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If you give me a boar brush I can make a perfectly good lather.

If you give me a toyota corolla I can get to school and back no problem.

Some people are differentiated consumers and want the perceived higher end goods.

Are they better? Only if you think they are. 

I myself know that I do not need a two week rotation of high end badger brushes, but, I like them  Heart

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 12-02-2015, 10:36 AM
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(12-02-2015, 10:35 AM)NSmalls Wrote: If you give me a boar brush I can make a perfectly good lather.

If you give me a toyota corolla I can get to school and back no problem.

Some people are differentiated consumers and want the perceived higher end goods.

Are they better? Only if you think they are. 

I myself know that I do not need a two week rotation of high end badger brushes, but, I like them  Heart

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 12-02-2015, 11:02 AM
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That's what is all about, as long as one like them, that's all it matters.

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