07-05-2012, 09:41 AM
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  • Teiste
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I do receive a lot of pm's asking me a good boar shaving brush to try first,and most of the time,the question comes with another asking about the Semogues 1305 and 1800 (and sometimes the 1250) and how they compare with each other.

Well,if you havent tried out a boar brush before,you can always get an Omega.Omega boar brushes are, generally, cheaper than Semogues,but the handles are,in most of the cases,made of cheap plastic.However for 14 bucks (shipping including) you can find great Omega boar brushes to try out and now if boar brushes are made for you or not.

If you want to go a step forward,Semogue offers the best boar brushes (of course,this is my personal opinion) but are more expensive than other brands.

The basic models that I do recommend to start with are the Semogue 1305 :

[Image: SEM1305.jpg]

and the Semogue 1800,which have became my favorite :

[Image: semogue1800.jpg]

So are they differences between those two models?Yes,they are differences.

The Semogue 1305 uses 90% premium tops boar hair while the 1800 is a mixed of 75% tops boar hair with 90% premium tops hair.This gives to each brush a "different" behavior when used for bowl or facelathering.

Semogue 1305

For many people,this is THE boar shaving brush,and they are right about it.Its a dense hair shaving brush (less than the Semogue 830) and offers a good flow once is break in.Its tips split really fast and became super soft with use.The backbone is there,but the more you use it,the more that looses its natural firmness,but never became a mop,like some silvertip badger brushes.

A picture of a well used Semogue 1305 (thanks mimoraes01) :

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This brush is perfect for bowl lathering,as well as for facelathering,with circular and painting movements,and works well with hard soaps and shaving creams.However,with use,and since its looses its backbone (Im talking about more than 6 months of regular use) I find it more suitable for bowl lathering than for facelathering.

If you have never tried a boar brush,dont want to spend a lot of time "soften it",and you will like extremely soft tips,this is the brush for you.

This brush could be a lather hog,or retain a lot of lather on the center of the brush.Its not like a Semogue SOC or 830 "sucking" lather,but it could be,so use more product,and thats it.

Both brushes uses the same handle type,but the Semogue 1305 is painted while the 1800 is not.The handles are the most ergonomics that you can find of any maker.

Also,be careful with the paint,since could chip if you dont treat the brush right (let it fall ,smash it etc).

Semogue 1800

This brush requires some "patience" and use,before offers you all its potential,but let me tell you that it has become my favorite one.

The brush doesn't have the soft tips that the 1305 has.Well,this is not right : it does has soft tips,but you need to use it a lot,before you can experience that.In the meantime,it would offer you kind of soft tips with some scratchiness,but nothing unpleasant,I can tell you.

Its firmness is much higher than the 1305.Both brushes have the same amount of hair,but,since the 1800 has some 75% tops boar hair,it has a more strong backbone,and less flow than the 1305.Also,it doesn't blooms as much as the 1305,which makes it perfect for facelathering.

Here is a pic of the Semogue 1800 and the lather made from Martin de Candre :

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With use,its tips would become much softer,but wont loose much of its natural firm backbone,so its a pleasure to use for me,since performs really well with hard soaps and facelathering with circular movements.

This brush could be used for bowl lathering and with shaving creams,but its stellar (you can see all its potential,basically) with shaving soaps and facelathering.

The brush is not a lather hog,another point on its favor.

Here is a video of my friend du212 making lather on a shaving bowl,with the Semogue 1800 and Mitchell's Wool Fat shaving soap :


So,if you are a hard die face latherer and want a good boar brush for that task,the 1800 is your brush.

If you want a first boar brush,or a more polyvalent boar brush (ok,the 1800 could be used in bowl lathering as you can see in the video posted here,but I dont find it as good for this task than the 1305),the Semogue 1305 could be what you are looking for.

Both brushes are excellent,but I like the 1800 a little bit more.

Hope that this post answers some of your question regarding these excellent boar shaving brushes.

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 07-05-2012, 09:59 AM
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thanks for the post, Teiste.

I just bought a 1305!

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 07-05-2012, 10:26 AM
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  • Johnny
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Another nice write up Teiste. The 1305 is one of my favorite brushes. I have not tried the 1250 or 1800 and don't see a need to at this time. I can't imagine these two being any better than the other nine Semogue boars I have.

A good Semogue boar/badger mix would be nice.Smile

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 07-05-2012, 11:14 AM
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Excellent review, Teiste.

The 1800 was my first brush, recommended by Michael at Italian barber. I now have 3 Semogue boars and it's still my favorite (1438, SOC).

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 07-05-2012, 11:35 AM
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Nice writeup, Teiste. I've used the 1305, but not the 1800. It's something to watch for in the future.

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 07-05-2012, 11:46 AM
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  • Teiste
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(07-05-2012, 11:35 AM)yohannrjm Wrote: Nice writeup, Teiste. I've used the 1305, but not the 1800. It's something to watch for in the future.

Yes,Tom Waits,I mean,Yohann.Biggrin
The 1800 is the underdog of Semogue boar brushes line up.

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 07-05-2012, 11:51 AM
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Great review Teiste.

I had a 1305 but preferred the 830 so it's the one that has stayed in my collection.

What ever a person picks, they are all great brushes. IMO they are better than Omega's.

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 07-05-2012, 12:51 PM
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Teiste, thanks for the review. I have the 1305 and it is one of my favorite boars. My appreciation and preference for Semogue brushes has grown over the past year.

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 07-05-2012, 02:47 PM
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yes, I agree that the 1800 is one of the most underrated brushes of the Semogue line-up. For dealing with hard soaps and bowl-lathering, I prefer it to the 1305, no doubt about it.

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 07-05-2012, 02:50 PM
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Thanks for the review Teiste. I've been considering the 1305, since I haven't tried a boar brush yet. Smile

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 07-05-2012, 02:57 PM
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Ahhh, those beautiful Portuguese brushes!

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 07-05-2012, 03:42 PM
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Not to get off topic but...I have a 1305 and an SOC on order. What should I expect the SOC to be like? Similar to the 1305 or 1800? Unlike anything else?...

Thanks for any opinions,
Grande

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 07-05-2012, 04:55 PM
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  • oscar11
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I haven't tried a Semogue yet. I do have an Omega Pro that I like.

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 07-05-2012, 05:44 PM
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  • Teiste
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(07-05-2012, 03:42 PM)Grande Wrote: Not to get off topic but...I have a 1305 and an SOC on order. What should I expect the SOC to be like? Similar to the 1305 or 1800? Unlike anything else?...

Thanks for any opinions,
Grande

Well,yes,very unlike those two brushes (the 1305 and the 1800).Its a bigger brush and a different monster.Also you have to be patience with it to fully break it,but it will truly reward you.

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 07-05-2012, 07:15 PM
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  • Shanman
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I like both as well but prefer the 1800 knot more. I had this custom resin handled brush stuffed with an 1800 knot. I think it turned out nice.

[Image: semogue.jpg?m=1341545176]

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 07-05-2012, 07:28 PM
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  • Teiste
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(07-05-2012, 07:15 PM)Shanman Wrote: I like both as well but prefer the 1800 knot more. I had this custom resin handled brush stuffed with an 1800 knot. I think it turned out nice.

[Image: semogue.jpg?m=1341545176]

Rudy did a great job with that 1305 imitation resin handle!

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 07-06-2012, 03:48 PM
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Teiste,

Great review!!!! I have both the 1305 and the 1800. For me nice brushes. Also, good advice on breaking them in...gotta have patience and just use them. You will be rewarded with most comfortable brushes. IMHO, the Semogue boars are the best of the best!!!!!

Take care,
Ed
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 07-11-2012, 08:34 AM
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  • Balj86
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Semogue 1800 all the way! Its one of my favortie/versatile boar bristle brush I own. I actually a created a thread like this on B&B. There are other Semogue's which are also compared in that thread too. If you'd like I can post a link too it, but I don't know if that's breaking forum rules. Have a great one!

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 07-11-2012, 09:15 AM
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(07-11-2012, 08:34 AM)Balj86 Wrote: Semogue 1800 all the way! Its one of my favortie/versatile boar bristle brush I own. I actually a created a thread like this on B&B. There are other Semogue's which are also compared in that thread too. If you'd like I can post a link too it, but I don't know if that's breaking forum rules. Have a great one!

We are part of the world wide shaving community and have no objections to members posting interesting and educational links to other shaving forums.

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 07-11-2012, 10:03 AM
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  • freddy
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I have several Semogue brushes and enjoy them all. However, the 1305 was my first and even though the handle is a bit battered now, it remains my emotional favorite. It never disappoints me. I am a dedicated bowl latherer and don't own the 1800 so cannot honestly compare the two, as Teiste did so well.

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