11-15-2015, 02:52 PM
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So I ask you peope out there with rather large collections of soaps and creams.

Have you ever seen one of your products going stale, turning ?

Normally the creams with more water content will have this problem, where harder milled soaps can last for decades.

But I just found my soft Cella soap/croap hiding in the corner of my large collection and know I had yet to use it, it was brand new, probably bought in 2013 - and when I screw the lid off, it was a very yellowish type of creamy like soap. Looked really like it was gone stale. I know Cella in particular has this problem, so I decided to not take any chances and threw it out, without even ever having used it  Blush 

I have so many other almond/cherry scented products, that I can live fine without Cella.
But also just found an older TOBS Avocado cream, that also has turned yellow and looked past its prime.

Have you experienced any of your products going stale ?

I wonder sometimes if it's worth collecting all these soaps and creams, when only the real hard soaps can last for ever without turning...........I fear my huge soap and cream collection could be in danger of getting too old. I have so many soaps and creams that if I was to rotate them I would hardly use one soap/cream more than twice a year maximum........

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 11-15-2015, 02:57 PM
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  • Agravic
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I think you answered your own question here, Claus. Winky

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 11-15-2015, 02:57 PM
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It's a valid concern.  I can help.  Best to reduce the collection immediately and concentrate on using up just a few.  Send quickly to get started on saving your favourites.  I'll cover the postage.

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 11-15-2015, 03:03 PM
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Cella is known for going bad. I think there are some natural ingredients in there that do not age well. I used to keep my brick in the fridge and it preserved fine.

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 11-15-2015, 03:08 PM
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(11-15-2015, 02:57 PM)Agravic Wrote: I think you answered your own question here, Claus. Winky

So solution is:

1. Buy only hard soaps from now on ?

2. Reduce my collection or stop buying more softer creams ?

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 11-15-2015, 03:16 PM
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(11-15-2015, 03:08 PM)CHSeifert Wrote:
(11-15-2015, 02:57 PM)Agravic Wrote: I think you answered your own question here, Claus. Winky

So solution is:

1. Buy only hard soaps from now on ?

2. Reduce my collection or stop buying more softer creams ?

Bingo

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 11-15-2015, 03:21 PM
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Remember that no one takes anything with them to the grave.

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 11-15-2015, 03:28 PM
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Dr Christopher Moss, author of "The Art of Straight Razor Shaving" is also known to have a large soap collection, some very old. I would contact him and discuss your concern. 
The book is available as a free download and his email is on the last page.

FWIW, I have a tub of Dr Harris cream that is almost 3 years old, no issues. However, I have seen the yellowing on soaps after even a few months, I doubt it is mold or anything remotely harmful. Someone with specific scientific knowledge can probably answer it best.

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 11-15-2015, 03:40 PM
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(11-15-2015, 03:08 PM)CHSeifert Wrote:
(11-15-2015, 02:57 PM)Agravic Wrote: I think you answered your own question here, Claus. Winky

So solution is:

1. Buy only hard soaps from now on ?

2. Reduce my collection or stop buying more softer creams ?

This is what I've been doing specifically because of how infrequently I shave.  Perhaps 40x per year.  That's enough to use up a single tin of a soft soap.  My closet has a lot of triple milled soaps on standby Smile

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 11-15-2015, 05:01 PM
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Cella is the only soap I have had go bad. Like you said - yellow and stale.  Never has this happen with 3P or Valobra.

Ed

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 11-15-2015, 05:12 PM
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(11-15-2015, 02:57 PM)Agravic Wrote: I think you answered your own question here, Claus. Winky

Biggrin

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 11-15-2015, 05:52 PM
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I've specifically have been trying to use my creams more often precisely because of that. I've had a few of them dry up or begin to dry up. I think in the future I'll keep my creams down to 3 or 4 at any one time. My soaps, which I prefer, are good to go whenever I get to them.

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 11-15-2015, 06:09 PM
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(11-15-2015, 05:52 PM)Mouser Wrote: I've specifically have been trying to use my creams more often precisely because of that. I've had a few of them dry up or begin to dry up. I think in the future I'll keep my creams down to 3 or 4 at any one time. My soaps, which I prefer, are good to go whenever I get to them.

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+1, except I've actually sold most of my creams (and soaps) I don't care for any more.
I prefer soaps and use them more often (even though my top 2 products are creams, as I just posted in another thread). And creams are more likely to go bad than soaps. So trying to keep creams to a minimum. Whereas I like BACKUPS of my soaps Biggrin

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 11-15-2015, 06:37 PM
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The Portuguese creams in the tubes (e.g. Lavanda and Top Secret) were notorious for turning to cement inside the tube within the year.

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 11-15-2015, 07:11 PM
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I've had this happen with Cella. I've also noticed scent loss with other artisan soaps. I've pondered this dilemma frequently the last few months. Even with just scent loss, I don't want a great performing unscented soap. For this very reason I have been downsizing my soap stash. I'm just under 20 now and have resisted the urge to buy more. But brushes... they don't go bad.

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 11-15-2015, 09:58 PM
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(11-15-2015, 07:11 PM)Gabe Wrote: I've had this happen with Cella. I've also noticed scent loss with other artisan soaps. I've pondered this dilemma frequently the last few months. Even with just scent loss, I don't want a great performing unscented soap. For this very reason I have been downsizing my soap stash. I'm just under 20 now and have resisted the urge to buy more. But brushes... they don't go bad.

Biggrin

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 11-16-2015, 04:39 AM
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Are there any adverse effects if someone used a product that turned?  (i.e. chemical burn)  Also, with the English creams that are in the yellowish bowl container, if the cream was the same color would it be considered bad or are there other factors to consider.

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 11-16-2015, 05:11 AM
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You can still use Cella, even when it turns yellow, light brown. It's tottaly wrong to throw it away. It doesn't turn bad!
Lather it 2-3 times, you will still smell the almond scent.

Almost all the classic italian almond soaps, like Cella, Vitos, P160, turn yellow after months of no use. It's typical for them!

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 11-16-2015, 05:53 AM
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Most soaps have a little bit of extra oil, for skin conditioning, etc.   These extra oils can go rancid, leading to the yellowing/browning. It happens to many of the italian soaps, and to many artisan soaps. Simply because they have no preservatives to prevent this.  You can still use the soaps, they don't pose a danger and the performance will be unaffected. The scent may be affected and they won't be as pretty to look at.

I used to sell soaps and I shutdown mostly because of this issue. I would make a batch, sell 3 or 4 of the batch, and throw out as many a couple of months later.

I'm toying with the idea of trying a few batches with a few different preservatives to see how they hold up, just for fun.

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 11-16-2015, 06:07 AM
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Zero veggie soap in my den this Yellow and if some with  tallow   Rolleyes

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