12-18-2015, 09:27 AM
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  • Scoti
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Honestly what gives...

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 12-18-2015, 09:48 AM
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  • bullgoose
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Engineering, materials and labor...pretty much the same thing that makes a Rolls Royce worth $300,000. Designing and producing a razor in small quantities is very expensive.

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 12-18-2015, 09:49 AM
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  • eengler
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You may be the only one to decide Scoti. Outside of manufacturing cost and retail mark up personal value is well...personalSmile

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 12-18-2015, 09:49 AM
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  • Agravic
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A fine razor is like a fine watch for me.
The luxury of enjoying a precisely crafted piece is worth the money to me.

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 12-18-2015, 09:55 AM
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Quality of the shave. 
Cost of materials. 
Cost of workmanship. 
Cost of design. 

Pride in presicison crafted instrument.

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 12-18-2015, 09:56 AM
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I would add that in my eyes some collectibles are worth the money.

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 12-18-2015, 09:57 AM
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To be certain. As much as I love my bbs1, wolfman, ect. I still have and use an ej89 and vintage gillette on the regular.

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 12-18-2015, 10:05 AM
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  • chamm
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Yeah, to throw on additional fuel:
You can pay $50 for a zinc-alloy razor that gives you a pretty good shave, and will last ~3 years. Now, if I pay $300 for a stainless steel razor that gives a fantastic shave, and will last three generations, am I being impractical? Of course, there are other places along this continuum, but brass and aluminum require degrees of care, and can also lose quality over time, whereas stainless steel and titanium will not, ever. Add to that the fact that this is a tool that you will use literally every single day for the rest of your life. Many men will spend $250 in Gillette Fusion cartridges over the course of a year or two without a single thought, and paying $250+ for a really nice razor isn't impractical in any way.

Now, considering how much I have spent on razors, I won't break even with Gillette cartridges until around 2430, but believe me, when that day comes, I'll be laughing at all the suckers!! Biggrin

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 12-18-2015, 10:06 AM
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Some are valued because they are old and rare, some are costly because they are new and made in reasonable limited numbers from not-cheap materials using not-cheap machining.

On the upside, there is also plenty of reasonable priced DE's that also gives lovely shaves - you can spend as little or as much as you feel right Smile

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 12-18-2015, 10:19 AM
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A razor is worth what someone will pay for it.  

It's really as simple as that.  


How much would pay if there was a DE that would fit your hand and your face perfectly, and would give you the best shaves you've ever had, and continue to do so for the rest of your life?  I'd pay a lot for that.  I can't speak for anyone else.  


To me, a better question is why would you care how much somebody else spends for a razor?  I heard on the radio the other day that John Wall spent $54,000 one evening at a strip club.  I think it's ludicrous, but it's his money, and I don't really care what he spends it on.

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 12-18-2015, 10:20 AM
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  • Mel S Meles
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(12-18-2015, 09:27 AM)Scoti Wrote: Honestly what gives...

See the last two paragraphs.

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 12-18-2015, 10:25 AM
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Simple answer. It's worth that because that's what someone was/is willing to pay for it.

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 12-18-2015, 10:39 AM
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(12-18-2015, 10:25 AM)FreddieP318ti Wrote: Simple answer. It's worth that because that's what someone was/is willing to pay for it.

That is the economist’s determination of price; while price is partially determined by worth, they are distinct concepts.  In the whole world, the one thing that has the most worth for human beings is potable water; however, many of us in first-world nations are fortunate in that we can obtain large quantities of potable water for a very low price.  Its worth remains more than the worth of gold nonetheless.

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 12-18-2015, 10:41 AM
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  • Scoti
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You guys are hardcore and I salute you for that. I was just asking what made a safety razor worth that much money. Thanks for the insight.. I'll stick with my gilette SS.

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 12-18-2015, 12:34 PM
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(12-18-2015, 10:39 AM)Mel S Meles Wrote:
(12-18-2015, 10:25 AM)FreddieP318ti Wrote: Simple answer. It's worth that because that's what someone was/is willing to pay for it.

That is the economist’s determination of price; while price is partially determined by worth, they are distinct concepts.  In the whole world, the one thing that has the most worth for human beings is potable water; however, many of us in first-world nations are fortunate in that we can obtain large quantities of potable water for a very low price.  Its worth remains more than the worth of gold nonetheless.

Yes I am aware and know they are distinct concepts. The problem with first world living, is as you have pointed out, is that worth and price are skewed. The basic fundamentals are taken for granted. Everybody above is correct in one shape or form. In the end something's worth is different for everyone. There are people that would rather die than lose a trinket due to its worth to them. Its all in how you perceive it.

Another easy answer: Because its shiny, metal, well made, and provides a great shave! Smile

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 12-18-2015, 05:02 PM
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  • kav
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I was on the Wyoming excavation of a Pliocene bison kill site. I recovered, and promptly flayed my left palm open, a Folsom projectile point still razor sharp. I was always struck (pun) by how many lithic artifacts obviously were made from extra beautiful cores not unlike custom hunting rifles.
If you understand those knappers literally could 'read'  a blank with all the skill of a diamond cutter it is doubly wonderful. Man has always taken the utilitarian and raised it to art.

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 12-18-2015, 05:32 PM
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  • garyg
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Scoti - glad the Super Speed is working, after all that's the only real measure of worth.  There are lots of opinions, but we've all got one, my take is the concept of "worth" is so bendy (or YMMV) as to be a rubber ruler.  

So just thoughts while (not) shaving .. A razor named because it has limited to one blade options, priced at $299 might be worth it if you are trendy, or set the promoters checkered history aside.  A razor based on a brilliant but century old formula (it still says G_______ on the building) might be worth it to a collector, or one who has tried all 1001 permutations of that razor.  Another razor's scales  might be made out of mammoth bones and the connection to the animal pleases you, if you use animal products .. or fan some boys up on social media, ship a couple, then go waiting list mode, that's worth it to some.

The answer is individual, as already pointed out.  Would be fun to have an x-ray that would show every poster's razor roster and recent $$$ purchases.   Most folk won't admit to being shucked when the price was high ..

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 12-18-2015, 06:06 PM
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(12-18-2015, 09:48 AM)bullgoose Wrote: Engineering, materials and labor...pretty much the same thing that makes a Rolls Royce worth $300,000. Designing and producing a razor in small quantities is very expensive.

That makes sense to me!

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 12-18-2015, 06:19 PM
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(12-18-2015, 10:20 AM)Mel S Meles Wrote:
(12-18-2015, 09:27 AM)Scoti Wrote: Honestly what gives...

See the last two paragraphs.

Awesome review Mel! I was already planning to buy an AS-D2 but your review drove home even more great and valid points. Thank you.

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 12-18-2015, 06:24 PM
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