12-18-2015, 12:19 PM
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  • Teiste
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Hello gentlemen ! 

I dont know if this have been already discussed here  , but I stopped by an Art of Shaving store today in SLC , and talked to its manager , who have become a good friend of mine.He told me that Art of Shaving (Gillette) is going to launch very soon new safety razors , starting with a model based on the 1938 Gillette Tech , like this one here :

[Image: 1938-1941%20Tech%20beschriftet%20Logo_zpsrekwmq21.jpg]

Seems that it should have been launched last November , but due to logistic problems , it will be launched in 2016 (by the first quarter).

The first 5.000 units will be numbered and have a price around 75 dollars.The rest of the units will have a price of 55 dollars.

Of course  , I asked him more questions :

I asked him if these razors will be only chromed plated , and he said yes , only chromed plated , not golden.

I asked him about other models , like the butterfly ones (Fatboy , Super Speed , Aristocrats etc) and he told me that he heard that some prototipes were made , but so far only 3 pieces safety razors will be launched (Tech style).

I asked him if these razors will be made in USA , but he told me that , due to its price , he doubt it.Maybe in India ? Thats my idea.

Also if Art of Shaving will be launching products in Europe , and he said thats the plan , but they have been discussing this since 2014 , and theyre only available in UK so far.Maybe by the end of 2016 will be launching them in the rest of Europe.

Who knows if we are going to see brand new made Gillette Fatboys , Slim , Rocket , etc soon ? I have my fingers crossed right now ! 

If I get more updates about this , I will let you guys know , or if you have more info about it , please , share it with us.

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 12-18-2015, 12:23 PM
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  • Agravic
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Very interesting. 
Thanks for sharing this information, Teiste.

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 12-18-2015, 01:01 PM
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(12-18-2015, 12:19 PM)Teiste Wrote:
Also if Art of Shaving will be launching products in Europe , and he said thats the plan , but they have been discussing this since 2014 , and theyre only available in UK so far.

I've heard this rumor before, and it was denied by AoS managers before.
Also, there's no AoS shops in the UK.  It's a US-only operation as far as I know.

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 12-18-2015, 02:58 PM
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I heard the rumor that they were going to release a Fatboy a couple of months ago. It would be excellent to pick up a modern Fatboy. I hope it's not just a rumor


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 12-18-2015, 03:17 PM
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(12-18-2015, 02:58 PM)merkur man Wrote: I heard the rumor that they were going to release a Fatboy a couple of months ago. It would be excellent to pick up a modern Fatboy. I hope it's not just a rumor


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I remember that thread...a Fatboy would be the one I would love to see the most, as I happen to find them excellent razors. However, I would also gladly take a 3 piece Tech Biggrin

Thanks for sharing Teiste!

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 12-18-2015, 04:25 PM
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(12-18-2015, 01:01 PM)Mr_Smartepants Wrote:
(12-18-2015, 12:19 PM)Teiste Wrote:
Also if Art of Shaving will be launching products in Europe , and he said thats the plan , but they have been discussing this since 2014 , and theyre only available in UK so far.

I've heard this rumor before, and it was denied by AoS managers before.
Also, there's no AoS shops in the UK.  It's a US-only operation as far as I know.

I will say this much, it is the most credible version of the rumor so far. 

Previous version of the rumor specifically called for a reproduction of the FatBoy, one of the most technically complicated razors ever made by Gillette. While this is the razor fans would most like to see, it is also the one least likely to be produced. The simple reality here is that the manufacturing infrastructure to produce a FatBoy has long since ben dismantled and the closest anyone has ever come to cloning it was back in the old Soviet Union. (This is also the reason I take the AoS denials with a grain of salt. People ask "Are you going to remake the FatBoy?" Of course not! Maybe if you asked the right question, though, the answer would be different.

This version of the rumor says that Gillette will start with the Tech. Coincidentally (or perhaps not), Gillette still manufactures a version of the Tech for the Indian market as the 7 o'Clock Sterling and for the Chinese market as a tie-in for the Super Blue Blade. Basically, these razors are a continuation of the Zamak Techs of the 60's and 70's but with a cheap plastic handle (something like the one on the Knack).

So, could Gillette make a commemorative DE based on the Tech? Easy Peasy. Take a Sterling head, screw on a deluxe handle, slap it into commemorative packaging and there you have it. Hopefully, though, if they do release a commemorative Tech, they will do more than what I just outlined and produce one made of either SS or nickel-plated brass like the classics.

JR

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 12-19-2015, 03:36 PM
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Of course in my opinion, if they're going to the trouble and not US producing anyway, they should have used the English version of the FH Tech with the much more awesome baseplate.  Who knows maybe they will.  Of course they could have done both.  The US style plate in chrome and the hybird or flat style in Rhodium.

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 12-21-2015, 02:02 PM
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"If it sounds too good to be true..."

I guess since the "New Fat Boy" was clearly too expensive to produce at a profit, stamped (steel or brass) and cast (zinc-zamac-"pot metal") versions of the Tech will be easily able to fill the gap, while they ramp up production of other models, all this to compete with various inexpensive Gillette copies from China, India and Pakistan?   

They must have been so very impressed by the ongoing success of the Wal-Mart/Pawn Stars razor experiment, to venture company capital on new facilities to produce old razors.
   
I suppose, though, AOS & Gillette will make a fortune selling a new line of "vintage" blades to go along with their new line of "vintage" razors.  People will love these, even though they are 10 times more expensive than currently available DE blades.

Seriously?

If there is any truth at all to the rumor, it will be this Gillette http://www.en.goedkoop-natscheren.nl/201...-tech.html , or the current India made Sterling (Tech), or the Russian Rubie (Tech), or a contract made razor from China (Weshi/Junji/Sodial). 

The problem is that their market is us.  Is there anyone here who would buy a $3 razor for $75 or $55?  They'll have to make a pretty fancy handle to get the price up!

I respect the OP, but I think his pal at the mall is having him on, or his pal bit hard on the rumor himself and felt compelled to repeat it.

Here is a previous discussion pertinent to the "why not" argument:  http://shavenook.com/showthread.php?tid=975

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 12-21-2015, 02:26 PM
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There really is no reason for Gillette to pursue production of a 'vintage' line of razors since they are already enjoying a ~4000% profit margin on existing cartridge systems.
In fact, IF (big 'if') Gillette does decide to reproduce any of their older designs, I'll wager that they would ALSO redesign it in such a way that NONE of the DE blades would fit, and that their razors could only be used with their 'new' blade design.  All the Feather-Derby blades you guys have stockpiled would be no good at all in this new razor design.  That's what I would do.
Anything less would be financial suicide for Gillette.

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 12-25-2015, 04:51 PM
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(12-21-2015, 02:26 PM)Mr_Smartepants Wrote: There really is no reason for Gillette to pursue production of a 'vintage' line of razors since they are already enjoying a ~4000% profit margin on existing cartridge systems.
In fact, IF (big 'if') Gillette does decide to reproduce any of their older designs, I'll wager that they would ALSO redesign it in such a way that NONE of the DE blades would fit, and that their razors could only be used with their 'new' blade design.  All the Feather-Derby blades you guys have stockpiled would be no good at all in this new razor design.  That's what I would do.
Anything less would be financial suicide for Gillette.

Sort of my thoughts as well.  Given how much profit there is in taking advantage of the cartridge community, it'd be rather frivolous of them to cater to anyone else - for any reason.

Piques the imagination though what sort of "DE" razor they'd come up with and still maintain their uber-profitable proprietary advantage.  

I imagine a  "Fusion Mach 3-3 Rollerball DE with dual 5-blade cartridges" design.  Smile

Of course, you'd have to purchase the special [redesigned] multi-color space-age plastic handle ($25), a matching dual cartridge roller-ball head ($12), and a week's supply of dual cartridge refills with special strip that tells you when to replace the cartridges ($6 ea.).  Initial investment: $41 plus $6 a week thereafter for replacement dual cartridges.

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 12-26-2015, 06:09 AM
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Even if it turns out to be true, no way would the new iteration be better than an original Tech, which you can get for 10-25 bucks pretty much anytime.  The new one would likely be chrome-plated Zamak.  

Thanks, but no thanks.  I have a British Hybrid Tech and a Canadian fat-handle triangle-slot Tech, and I think it would be quite impossible that the new "Tech" would surpass either of these fine shavers.

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 12-26-2015, 06:44 AM
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(12-26-2015, 06:09 AM)kingfisher Wrote: Even if it turns out to be true, no way would the new iteration be better than an original Tech, which you can get for 10-25 bucks pretty much anytime.  The new one would likely be chrome-plated Zamak.  

Thanks, but no thanks.  I have a British Hybrid Tech and a Canadian fat-handle triangle-slot Tech, and I think it would be quite impossible that the new "Tech" would surpass either of these fine shavers.

+1

I've been using a Canadian pre-war Tech (triangle slots and fat handle) for the past several days and it is a joy to use. Better even than the later (but still vintage) American Techs. If AOS/P&G decided to scour Gillette's old blueprints and make that exact razor then they'd have a winner even at $30. I think the pre-war Tech is superior to a DE89/R89, let alone anything cheaper made these days.

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 12-27-2015, 11:37 AM
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Im still going to say its a rumor. Not to be rude on that the worker told you this but i have been asking for some time and different stores and got the same reply. Wtf are you talking about blank stare pretty much lol. Someone in another forum even said they know someone who worked for aos and would get pics and this of course went cold. I think someone just started an elaborate rumor. Could i be wrong yes but since they already sell wet shaving products made by other companies i do not see it.

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 12-28-2015, 04:30 PM
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It is absolutely true! I know a guy whose brother works with a guy whose uncle goes drinking on Sundays with the daughter of a guy who knows someone who works at an AOS store as a cashier. They absolutely swear the razors are coming.

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 12-28-2015, 04:37 PM
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(12-28-2015, 04:30 PM)HagbardCeline Wrote: It is absolutely true! I know a guy whose brother works with a guy whose uncle goes drinking on Sundays with the daughter of a guy who knows someone who works at an AOS store as a cashier. They absolutely swear the razors are coming.

Oh, well in that case...

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 12-28-2015, 04:57 PM
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BUT if you can buy a powered led Tech that stacks 6 blades with a 1/8" blade gap why wouldn,t you want one....it is the ULTIMATE GILLETTE MODERN TECH....think about it and be the first to pre-order yours NOW.....just send $99.00 to my PayPal account and I,ll put you on the "list".....note that doesn,t include the razor it is just the charge for the "list"...... Biggrin

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 12-28-2015, 05:07 PM
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I love the wet shaving community

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 12-29-2015, 06:08 PM
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$75 for a razor you could get for $15 seems crazy


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 12-30-2015, 08:55 PM
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I heard from a source I kind of trust that they are going to remake the 2011 R41 and package it with Gillette rebranded feather blades.

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 12-30-2015, 10:03 PM
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So long as there's new razor there will be buyer.

We don't NEED more razors but we want to try especially to compare how does the overpriced new tech will be against the vintage ones.

I don't believe they will make it though. There's no way for them to have a huge profit margins on the disposable.

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