12-19-2015, 04:56 AM
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See http://www.fastcompany.com/3054876/fast-...fringement and elsewhere online.

From what I can tell the lawsuit is over blade coating (and nothing at all to do with Gillette starting their own subscription service last year, I'm sure Angel ).

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 12-20-2015, 04:23 PM
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That's interesting because DSC just repackages Dorco razors.


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 12-20-2015, 05:20 PM
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(12-20-2015, 04:23 PM)uncledoley Wrote: That's interesting because DSC just repackages Dorco razors.


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My thoughts exactly. Looks like DSC is doing something right .

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 01-04-2016, 03:03 PM
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The suit is over this patent HERE  

Razor blade technology 
US 6684513 B1


ABSTRACT
A razor blade including a substrate with a cutting edge defined by a sharpened tip and adjacent facets, a layer of hard coating on the cutting edge, an overcoat layer of a chromium containing material on the layer of hard carbon coating, and an outer layer of polytetrafluoroethylene coating over the overcoat layer.

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 01-04-2016, 10:12 PM
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I still don't understand why Gillette doesn't have Dorco named in the suit instead of DSC.  DSC is just the reseller.  This is a manufacturing fight.
A similar analogy would be Goodyear tires suing Bob's Auto Sales for selling cars with Firestone tires (If Firestone were to violate one of its patents).

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 01-04-2016, 11:49 PM
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perhaps gillette sees dsc as an easier target if dsc is u.s. based and dorco is korean?

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 01-05-2016, 06:18 AM
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Gillette has a long history of strongly defending violations of it's patients real or percieived. It might be that DSC is an easier target (for now) since it's based in the US.  Gillette will have an easier tiime with the discovery process and then may uncover evidence against Dorco.  If so, that would bolster their case against the bigger fish.  Just speculation.

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 01-05-2016, 07:05 AM
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(01-04-2016, 10:12 PM)Mr_Smartepants Wrote: I still don't understand why Gillette doesn't have Dorco named in the suit instead of DSC.  DSC is just the reseller.  This is a manufacturing fight.
A similar analogy would be Goodyear tires suing Bob's Auto Sales for selling cars with Firestone tires (If Firestone were to violate one of its patents).

DSC is cutting into Gillettes bottom line and doesn't have deep pockets - a shot across the bow to any other small company that wants a piece of any big corporation profits.

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 01-05-2016, 07:33 AM
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Just a question.  I've heard that DSC is a dorco razor. Question is is it the exact same Dorco razor as in can you buy the exact razor DSC sells through Dorco? Reason I bring it up is I was just thinking it could be possible DSC has a specific razor or type or razor made just for them and possibly Dorco makes it and DSC is the distributor?

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 01-05-2016, 08:43 AM
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They should be going after Dorco, not DSC. It's pretty obvious they want to put DSC out of business and don't want to mess with another giant manufacturer like Dorco. They could sue Dorco USA headquartered in San Diego I would think, but it's obvious their intention is to shut down DSC. Hopefully the worst that happens is DSC has to change to a different razor head. I have no legal expertise but that's what it looks like to me.

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 01-05-2016, 02:57 PM
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(01-05-2016, 08:43 AM)Hobbyist Wrote: They should be going after Dorco, not DSC. It's pretty obvious they want to put DSC out of business and don't want to mess with another giant manufacturer like Dorco. They could sue Dorco USA headquartered in San Diego I would think, but it's obvious their intention is to shut down DSC. Hopefully the worst that happens is DSC has to change to a different razor head. I have no legal expertise but that's what it looks like to me.
yes, sounds plausible to me.

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 01-05-2016, 04:15 PM
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A quick Google shows Dorco having a stake in DSC, and DSC not yet profitable.

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 01-12-2016, 10:23 AM
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(01-05-2016, 08:43 AM)Hobbyist Wrote: They should be going after Dorco, not DSC. It's pretty obvious they want to put DSC out of business and don't want to mess with another giant manufacturer like Dorco. They could sue Dorco USA headquartered in San Diego I would think, but it's obvious their intention is to shut down DSC. Hopefully the worst that happens is DSC has to change to a different razor head. I have no legal expertise but that's what it looks like to me.

Dorco is by no means a giant...

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 01-12-2016, 10:34 AM
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(01-05-2016, 08:43 AM)Hobbyist Wrote: They should be going after Dorco, not DSC. It's pretty obvious they want to put DSC out of business and don't want to mess with another giant manufacturer like Dorco. They could sue Dorco USA headquartered in San Diego I would think, but it's obvious their intention is to shut down DSC. Hopefully the worst that happens is DSC has to change to a different razor head. I have no legal expertise but that's what it looks like to me.
My thoughts exactly

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 01-12-2016, 01:51 PM
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My understanding is this entails technical, and probably complicated, details involving patent law.  I don't know why the suit is only against DSC, but I can guess that DSC may be more of a direct threat to Gillette's market position than DORCO USA.  The costs of this type of litigation may be more than a relatively small start up can afford, and perhaps Gillette is purposely keeping out DORCO USA so that DSC has to bear the legal costs by itself.

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 01-14-2016, 11:56 AM
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This isnt the first time this has happened

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 01-15-2016, 07:40 PM
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I belonged to DSC years ago for while.  Not impressed with the blades, however, nice service and great humor.   Their card insert "YOUR MOTHER-IN-LAW SHOULD BE IRRITATING, NOT YOU RAZOR" is still in my bathroom and gets many comments.  

Wonder if Harry's Razor is next?

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 01-16-2016, 07:45 PM
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I never belonged to DSC, but do buy the Dorco Pacer 3 blades.  I understand DSC uses Dorco blades.  I use the Pacer 3 cartridges to shave my head and for the occasions when I travel and carry on my luggage.

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 01-20-2016, 11:09 AM
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(01-12-2016, 01:51 PM)TheLegalRazor Wrote:   The costs of this type of litigation may be more than a relatively small start up can afford, and perhaps Gillette is purposely keeping out DORCO USA so that DSC has to bear the legal costs by itself.

+1

It will probably be a significant addition to the cost of doing business for the startup firm.  It's just another reason for me to attempt to avoid using Gillette products whenever possible.

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 01-20-2016, 08:37 PM
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Here is an article on the suit from the December 17, 2015 Wall Street Journal .

http://www.wsj.com/articles/p-gs-gillett...1450371180

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