07-09-2012, 10:41 PM
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  • Striky
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What are your thoughts on re-plating vintage razors? Do the "loose" their vintage origin, or do you think it's ok?

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 07-09-2012, 11:39 PM
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I will eventually have my 1965 Gillette Slim Adjustable redone. I think this is a good way to preserve a fine shaving instrument for newer generations. If I were concerned only with the antique value then of course I would leave it as is. I'm not concerned with that though. I'm concerned with continuing to actually use the instrument. Biggrin

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 07-10-2012, 12:12 AM
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(07-09-2012, 11:39 PM)uncledave Wrote: I will eventually have my 1965 Gillette Slim Adjustable redone. I think this is a good way to preserve a fine shaving instrument for newer generations. If I were concerned only with the antique value then of course I would leave it as is. I'm not concerned with that though. I'm concerned with continuing to actually use the instrument. Biggrin

I have to say, that's was my thougt too. Preserv a fine shaving instrument.

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 07-10-2012, 12:38 AM
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I like shiney things, i replate if i like the razor. It makes a good thing better.

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 07-10-2012, 02:29 AM
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Replating might "lose the vintage origin" but it sure looks good. There's my 4 replates I got in yesterday. A Tech, LC New, SC New, and an Old Type.

[Image: 7542087742_f1c2191c5c_z.jpg]

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 07-10-2012, 02:58 AM
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How do you replate a vintage TTO razor?

I believe that you need to dismantle it, but some TTO's are not easy to do so... like the British TTO's. I have a #58 that I'd like to see replated, but I just can't dismantle it!

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 07-10-2012, 03:04 AM
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I am very pleased that this question has cropped up.
I have an early "Aristocrat" in perfect condition and a gold-plated adjustable version (a la 007) which I stupidly cleaned in an ultrasonic tank resulting in a small amount of pitting on the doors (the rest of the razor is fine - see photos).
   
   
I can get the head professionally re-plated for about £40 but I am likewise wondering whether I will reduce its collectibility.

Jack

(07-09-2012, 10:41 PM)Striky Wrote: What are your thoughts on re-plating vintage razors? Do the "loose" their vintage origin, or do you think it's ok?

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 07-10-2012, 07:20 AM
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A replated razor will lose its collectibility, and vintage value. However, a nice-looking razor is much more pleasant to use than an ugly one, so if you're planning to use it - then replate, by all means. However, if you're thinking of the razor as an investment, then you may be better off keeping it as is.

At the end of the day, it's your razor - do what you think will make you happiest.

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 07-10-2012, 09:22 AM
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Many good replies!

To you who have replated a razor:

Where did you get it replated?

What is preferred between Nickel and Rhodium? Rhodium is a bit more expensive, is it worth it?

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 07-10-2012, 09:51 AM
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Thank you for the advice Yohann.

I am actually considering trading it for something else in the near future and I know that it will look pristine after the gold re-plate. So, I was idly wondering whether I should spend the 40 quid on a refurbish or pass it on as it is.

Jack

(07-10-2012, 07:20 AM)yohannrjm Wrote: A replated razor will lose its collectibility, and vintage value. However, a nice-looking razor is much more pleasant to use than an ugly one, so if you're planning to use it - then replate, by all means. However, if you're thinking of the razor as an investment, then you may be better off keeping it as is.

At the end of the day, it's your razor - do what you think will make you happiest.

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 07-10-2012, 12:24 PM
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Jack, if the razor is truly pitted, plating it won't fill in those pits. It'll only result in having pits that are plated. See pics below.

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If the razor has lost plating it's collector value is pretty much nil, so it makes sense IMO to replate it to conserve it for another generation to use. It might make no economic sense, but this is shaving and it transcends economic sense IMO. Plus, they don't make vintage razors anymore, and besides, who wants to shave with an ugly razor?

In the UK Dave Glynn does replating of Nickle and Rhodium.
http://www.restoredrazors.com/

Here are 2 that he did for me in nickle.

[Image: DSC03640smaller.jpg]

And what they looked like before.

[Image: DSC03561.jpg]

[Image: DSC03481-1.jpg]

[Image: DSC03475-1.jpg]

If you look at the left side of the Kampfe, in the comb area, you'll see pitting before. Look at the same area in the after photo and it's a plated pitted area.

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 07-10-2012, 12:32 PM
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The replated razors sell for higher prices than ones not replated unless NIB. My Toggle was replated in Rhodium and is in my razor rotation Before the replate, most of the gold was gone in the usual areas. With shipping, replate cost, and anxiety of dropping a keepsake in the mail to someone you do not know, buying one already replated runs about the same price A Toggle, Aristocrat, Fatboy, and several others are the best choices for future enjoyment and value. Leisureguy had his Futur heavy plated in gold, I think.

(07-10-2012, 02:29 AM)Dave Wrote: Replating might "lose the vintage origin" but it sure looks good. There's my 4 replates I got in yesterday. A Tech, LC New, SC New, and an Old Type.

[Image: 7542087742_f1c2191c5c_z.jpg]

Dave, who did your replates.? There have been some bad experiences with some of the replate folks and others no longer offer these services.

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 07-10-2012, 12:43 PM
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(07-09-2012, 10:41 PM)Striky Wrote: What are your thoughts on re-plating vintage razors? Do the "loose" their vintage origin, or do you think it's ok?

I have two Gillette NEW open-comb razors that were re-plated by Reliable Electroplating in Chartley, MA. Very happy with the results.

   

Gillette NEW short-comb and long-comb razors

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 07-10-2012, 01:05 PM
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(07-10-2012, 02:29 AM)Dave Wrote: Replating might "lose the vintage origin" but it sure looks good. There's my 4 replates I got in yesterday. A Tech, LC New, SC New, and an Old Type.

[Image: 7542087742_f1c2191c5c_z.jpg]

Where did you get them replated? Is it Nickel or Rhodium?

Is that Nickel? What price did they take?

(07-10-2012, 12:43 PM)wknicholas Wrote:
(07-09-2012, 10:41 PM)Striky Wrote: What are your thoughts on re-plating vintage razors? Do the "loose" their vintage origin, or do you think it's ok?

I have two Gillette NEW open-comb razors that were re-plated by Reliable Electroplating in Chartley, MA. Very happy with the results.



Gillette NEW short-comb and long-comb razors

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 07-11-2012, 02:56 AM
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(07-10-2012, 12:24 PM)ShadowsDad Wrote: Jack, if the razor is truly pitted, plating it won't fill in those pits. It'll only result in having pits that are plated. See pics below.

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If the razor has lost plating it's collector value is pretty much nil, so it makes sense IMO to replate it to conserve it for another generation to use. It might make no economic sense, but this is shaving and it transcends economic sense IMO. Plus, they don't make vintage razors anymore, and besides, who wants to shave with an ugly razor?

In the UK Dave Glynn does replating of Nickle and Rhodium.
http://www.restoredrazors.com/

Here are 2 that he did for me in nickle.

[Image: DSC03640smaller.jpg]

And what they looked like before.

[Image: DSC03561.jpg]

[Image: DSC03481-1.jpg]

[Image: DSC03475-1.jpg]

If you look at the left side of the Kampfe, in the comb area, you'll see pitting before. Look at the same area in the after photo and it's a plated pitted area.

Thank you very much Brian for your very thoughtful advice and for the web address of the UK plating contact.
What really upsets me is that my gold "Aristocrat" was in pristine condition before I decided to gild the bloody lily in an ultrasonic tank. However, you are quite right... it's a nice bit of kit and deserves a face-lift Smile

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 07-11-2012, 03:09 AM
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Here are two TTO Fatboy razors, one recently re-plated one original.

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 07-11-2012, 03:15 AM
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(07-11-2012, 03:09 AM)Mvcrash Wrote: Here are two TTO Fatboy razors, one recently re-plated one original.

OK I'll bite... which is which? Undecided

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 07-11-2012, 06:26 AM
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Is the relpate nickel? I keep going back and forth in my head if Rhodium is really worth it when newly plated nickel is usually pretty nice!

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 07-11-2012, 07:25 AM
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so here is my thought. if you replate in nickle then will the vintage value depreciate? one can just say the item was taken care of and seldom used. it was nickle plated to begin with (vintage gillettes).

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 07-11-2012, 08:46 AM
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I would like to think that vintage razors are a lot like classic cars.

Which do you think would sell for more, a 1969 Camaro found in a barn, or one that has an off frame complete restoration that has been restored to factory new? We all know the answer to that.

I prefer razors that are shiny and new looking over something that is banged up and brassy. That is just me an my opinion but I am sure there are those who like the look of a razor that appears to have been pulled out of a moldy box.

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