01-10-2016, 08:34 PM
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This morning I used Catie's Bubbles LPV and afterward when cleaning up I noticed the basin had a real soapy residue everywhere.   It took a bit of effort to clean it up.

For the past few weeks I have been sharing my mornings with CRSW, B&M, Mickey Lee and MdC, and I haven't noticed anything of the sort with those soaps. 

Do other people experience a similar sort of thing with Catie's Bubbles?  Assuming that I build a relatively similar lather across the various soaps, I am wondering if the soapy residue is caused by something different in the ingredients list?

I began wondering if this was something typical for veg based soaps, but then MdC is veg based so maybe that isn't it.

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 01-10-2016, 08:45 PM
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You will get soap scum from most if the Artisan soaps in my experience. I'm sure someone else will chime in on exactly why this occurs. I also started using Stirling and Mystic Water bath soaps and my wife us about to string me up due to the soap scum in the shower!!

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 01-10-2016, 08:47 PM
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I have used CB Rose and did not see this it always cleaned up nice. I only noticed a residue with greasy soaps like Stirling. and Stirling is not vegan.

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 01-10-2016, 08:50 PM
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Can't speak for Catie's Bubbles but some of my tallow based soaps do leave a film that is visible on my black Fine lather bowl. I never see it my sink because it's white.
I noticed CRSW and Tabac leave a film but only if I don't rinse out the bowl thoroughly.
Never really bothered me.

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 01-10-2016, 08:51 PM
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(01-10-2016, 08:45 PM)Oasisdave Wrote: You will get soap scum from most if the Artisan soaps in my experience. I'm sure someone else will chime in on exactly why this occurs. I also started using Stirling and Mystic Water bath soaps and my wife us about to string me up due to the soap scum in the shower!!

I must admit my wife noticed the residue before I did !

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 01-10-2016, 08:52 PM
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I think the softer soaps and croaps will get this residue problem, especially if you're the type of person, who blooms your soaps before you use it.

Caties Bubbles is a soft soap, so it will probably have a tendency to get this problem.

I don't see this happen with the harder soaps.......

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 01-10-2016, 08:53 PM
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(01-10-2016, 08:47 PM)fram773 Wrote: I have used CB Rose and did not see this it always cleaned up nice. I only noticed a residue with greasy soaps like Stirling. and Stirling is not vegan.

The only other soap where I've really noticed a residue is Strop Shoppe (SE tallow Barbershop), and that is a greasy feeling soap.  And certainly not vegan either.

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 01-10-2016, 08:54 PM
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Also consider that if it contains no detergent-- it is going to leave a residue because it reacts with your hard water. Only way it won't is if it has detergents or you are using distilled water.

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 01-10-2016, 08:56 PM
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(01-10-2016, 08:50 PM)kberga69 Wrote: Can't speak for Catie's Bubbles but some of my tallow based soaps do leave a film that is visible on my black Fine lather bowl. I never see it my sink because it's white.
I noticed CRSW and Tabac leave a film but only if I don't rinse out the bowl thoroughly.
Never really bothered me.

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It didn't bother me either - my wife on the other hand ....

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 01-10-2016, 08:59 PM
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(01-10-2016, 08:52 PM)CHSeifert Wrote: I think the softer soaps and croaps will get this residue problem, especially if you're the type of person, who blooms your soaps before you use it.

Caties Bubbles is a soft soap, so it will probably have a tendency to get this problem.

I don't see this happen with the harder soaps.......

I think you're right there Claus.  I do bloom my soaps and the Catie's Bubbles post bloom is very soft.  It gets thick and gluggy (if that's a word).

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 01-10-2016, 09:02 PM
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The tradeoff would be to use EDTA in the soap as a chelator for the minerals in your water, but most people who buy artisan soap are trying to avoid those sorts of additives.  It's a Catch 22.

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 01-10-2016, 09:02 PM
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(01-10-2016, 08:54 PM)fram773 Wrote: Also consider that if it contains no detergent-- it is going to leave a residue because it reacts with your hard water. Only way it won't is if it has detergents or you are using distilled water.

Cheers Robin - I hadn't considered that.

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 01-10-2016, 09:10 PM
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(01-10-2016, 09:02 PM)Mystic Water Wrote: The tradeoff would be to use EDTA in the soap as a chelator for the minerals in your water, but most people who buy artisan soap are trying to avoid those sorts of additives.  It's a Catch 22.

I'm in this boat. I do have very hard water in my area and just decided to avoid using it and use fitered or distilled water for soaking my brushes, making lather and rinsing brushes. Although I do try and avoid EDTA, I know it isn't the worst thing in a soap and serves a purpose.

I do get a lot of soap scum in my sink and I think it is because I rinse my razor in the tap and that get poured down the drain.

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 01-10-2016, 09:18 PM
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(01-10-2016, 09:02 PM)Mystic Water Wrote: The tradeoff would be to use EDTA in the soap as a chelator for the minerals in your water, but most people who buy artisan soap are trying to avoid those sorts of additives.  It's a Catch 22.

Are there not natural ingredients (of one form or another) that can be used as chelating agents? I don't know the chemistry of it, but why must it be EDTA?

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 01-10-2016, 09:22 PM
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(01-10-2016, 09:02 PM)Mystic Water Wrote: The tradeoff would be to use EDTA in the soap as a chelator for the minerals in your water, but most people who buy artisan soap are trying to avoid those sorts of additives.  It's a Catch 22.

I have fairly soft water at my place (a quick bit of research says 41 milligrams of calcium carbonate per litre, and they tell me that's quite soft). Lathering is never an issue for me with any soap.

So Michelle do you think that means a more likely cause is because I may have excessively bloomed a soft soap?

By the way I obviously don't want to cast any aspersions on CB or insinuate anything about their soap making.

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 01-10-2016, 09:22 PM
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I have noticed this with certain creams, like Prorasso. I just take the time to clean it up as soon as I see it.

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 01-10-2016, 09:33 PM
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(01-10-2016, 09:22 PM)Basilsniffer Wrote:
(01-10-2016, 09:02 PM)Mystic Water Wrote: The tradeoff would be to use EDTA in the soap as a chelator for the minerals in your water, but most people who buy artisan soap are trying to avoid those sorts of additives.  It's a Catch 22.

I have fairly soft water at my place (a quick bit of research says 41 milligrams of calcium carbonate per litre, and they tell me that's quite soft). Lathering is never an issue for me with any soap.

So Michelle do you think that means a more likely cause is because I may have excessively bloomed a soft soap?

By the way I obviously don't want to cast any aspersions on CB or insinuate anything about their soap making.

I don't bloom my softer soaps and creams at all.
I don't find that it's necessary.

Just a wet brush, swirl on the surface until the brush is heavily loaded with soap, and everything is fine.

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 01-10-2016, 10:26 PM
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(01-10-2016, 08:45 PM)Oasisdave Wrote: You will get soap scum from most if the Artisan soaps in my experience. I'm sure someone else will chime in on exactly why this occurs. I also started using Stirling and Mystic Water bath soaps and my wife us about to string me up due to the soap scum in the shower!!

This. One of the main reasons why I haven't switched from shower gel to an artesian  bath soap.

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 01-10-2016, 10:32 PM
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(01-10-2016, 10:26 PM)GloryUprising Wrote:
(01-10-2016, 08:45 PM)Oasisdave Wrote: You will get soap scum from most if the Artisan soaps in my experience. I'm sure someone else will chime in on exactly why this occurs. I also started using Stirling and Mystic Water bath soaps and my wife us about to string me up due to the soap scum in the shower!!

This. One of the main reasons why I haven't switched from shower gel to an artesian  bath soap.

Also why I still use Dove.

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 01-11-2016, 07:14 AM
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I find most of the soaps leave some residue along with the shaving remnants.  A little warm water as part of my clean up routine makes for a clean sink and a happy wife.  Smile

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