01-15-2016, 01:37 PM
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Anyone have any experience with them?  Im thinking of picking one up in a 26mm k it. It's either that or a chubby 2 super to go wit my chubby 2 in best.  Any thoughts?

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 01-15-2016, 01:41 PM
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Thäter are currently some of my favorite brushes. I have 5, more than any other brand. Exceptionally soft tips, nice, but not overpowering backbone. I prefer them greatly to the Chubby 2 Super that I sold. 26mm fan is my favorite, but be cautioned: the fan shape makes it feel significantly larger than a 26mm bulb. I have a Thäter 4292/5 (26mm) in both fan and bulb, and the fan feels MUCH larger. I also have a 4292/6, which is 28mm, and it almost feels clownishly large. Certainly bigger than a Chubby, at least in feel. I think the 4125 has a lower loft, so it'll be a bit scrubbier than the 4292, but both are excellent.

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 01-15-2016, 01:46 PM
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(01-15-2016, 01:41 PM)chamm Wrote: Thäter are currently some of my favorite brushes. I have 5, more than any other brand. Exceptionally soft tips, nice, but not overpowering backbone. I prefer them greatly to the Chubby 2 Super that I sold. 26mm fan is my favorite, but be cautioned: the fan shape makes it feel significantly larger than a 26mm bulb. I have a Thäter 4292/5 (26mm) in both fan and bulb, and the fan feels MUCH larger. I also have a 4292/6, which is 28mm, and it almost feels clownishly large. Certainly bigger than a Chubby, at least in feel. I think the 4125 has a lower loft, so it'll be a bit scrubbier than the 4292, but both are excellent.

I am looking at a4125 in 2 band in either 26 or 24.  Ilike the face feel of.the chubby 2 and was thinking the 26 thater would feel similar.  What do you think?

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 01-15-2016, 01:52 PM
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In my opinion, the Thäter has softer tips. It'll be less dense. Consequently, it should require less product, and will likely make more lather. I would estimate (but cannot confirm; my only 4125 is a /1, so it is smaller) that the size would feel somewhat similar on the face.

If you enjoy the size of your Chubby 2, my educated guess is that you should be pretty pleased with the 4125/2. If you want to play it safe, (and spend a little more cash) I think a 4125/3 would suit you as well.

However, never having laid eyes on either of these brushes, please take my advice with a grain of salt.

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 01-15-2016, 01:56 PM
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I'll also add that I somewhat prefer the higher loft of the 4292 series. I face lather exclusively, so the "common wisdom" that the higher loft lends itself to bowl lathering is not gospel. All of my 4292's provide a pleasant amount of scrub on my face. They aren't exceptionally scrubby, but I would say that they hold up very well, and feel wonderful on the face.

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 01-15-2016, 02:06 PM
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I used to have a Simpson Colonel best and now have a Thater 4125/2 Bulb 3 band and the Thater has much softer tips which is the reason I bought it. I don't know if a Simpson Chubby best is the same exact hair as the Colonel but I still don't think it would equal the softness regardless. Perhaps a Super Simspon will but I have no experience with them. I love my Thater and will enjoy it for years to come. Also, I am a face latherer and like chamm I don't require a very low loft. My Thater is a 26mm but measures closer to 28mm and has a 53-54mm loft. Hope that helps.

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 01-15-2016, 02:13 PM
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I have been also tosing around the idea of getting a Thater 4125/3 twoband myself


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 01-15-2016, 02:14 PM
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they had a shedding issue at one time. Did they resolve that or?

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 01-15-2016, 02:27 PM
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I'm eyeing this German beauty;

[Image: IMG_0213_zps2d0cb782.jpg]

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 01-15-2016, 02:46 PM
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(01-15-2016, 02:27 PM)Aleksey Wrote: I'm eyeing this German beauty;

[Image: IMG_0213_zps2d0cb782.jpg]
What size/model is that? I've been eyeing one that looks (or is) exactly like that. I love the bulb knot and the handle.

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 01-15-2016, 02:54 PM
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(01-15-2016, 02:46 PM)NeoXerxes Wrote:
(01-15-2016, 02:27 PM)Aleksey Wrote: I'm eyeing this German beauty;

[Image: IMG_0213_zps2d0cb782.jpg]
What size/model is that? I've been eyeing one that looks (or is) exactly like that. I love the bulb knot and the handle.

It is a Thäter 49125/2 2-Band.

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 01-15-2016, 02:56 PM
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(01-15-2016, 02:54 PM)Aleksey Wrote:
(01-15-2016, 02:46 PM)NeoXerxes Wrote:
(01-15-2016, 02:27 PM)Aleksey Wrote: I'm eyeing this German beauty;

[Image: IMG_0213_zps2d0cb782.jpg]
What size/model is that? I've been eyeing one that looks (or is) exactly like that. I love the bulb knot and the handle.

It is a Thäter 49125/2 2-Band.
I think that's exact the same one I've nearly purchased on a few occasions. Something like a 24mm knot?

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 01-15-2016, 03:01 PM
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(01-15-2016, 02:56 PM)NeoXerxes Wrote:
(01-15-2016, 02:54 PM)Aleksey Wrote:
(01-15-2016, 02:46 PM)NeoXerxes Wrote: What size/model is that? I've been eyeing one that looks (or is) exactly like that. I love the bulb knot and the handle.

It is a Thäter 49125/2 2-Band.
I think that's exact the same one I've nearly purchased on a few occasions. Something like a 24mm knot?


No, it is 26.

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 01-15-2016, 03:01 PM
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4125 with 24/49 mm knot in 2 Band

[Image: WLn2AG2.jpg]

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 01-15-2016, 03:03 PM
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(01-15-2016, 03:01 PM)Aleksey Wrote:
(01-15-2016, 02:56 PM)NeoXerxes Wrote:
(01-15-2016, 02:54 PM)Aleksey Wrote: It is a Thäter 49125/2 2-Band.
I think that's exact the same one I've nearly purchased on a few occasions. Something like a 24mm knot?


No, it is 26.
That sounds right, unless there is a 24 mm version of the same knot/handle. In any case, that will end up in my collection at some point.

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 01-15-2016, 03:04 PM
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(01-15-2016, 03:03 PM)NeoXerxes Wrote:
(01-15-2016, 03:01 PM)Aleksey Wrote:
(01-15-2016, 02:56 PM)NeoXerxes Wrote: I think that's exact the same one I've nearly purchased on a few occasions. Something like a 24mm knot?


No, it is 26.
That sounds right, unless there is a 24 mm version of the same knot/handle. In any case, that will end up in my collection at some point.

There is also 24mm version, too. 49125/1, I guess.

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 01-15-2016, 03:08 PM
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(01-15-2016, 03:04 PM)Aleksey Wrote:
(01-15-2016, 03:03 PM)NeoXerxes Wrote:
(01-15-2016, 03:01 PM)Aleksey Wrote: No, it is 26.
That sounds right, unless there is a 24 mm version of the same knot/handle. In any case, that will end up in my collection at some point.

There is also 24mm version, too. 49125/1, I guess.
One big advantage to Thater (and similar brands) is that they tend to make sure that there is something available for everybody. I like how you can get the same handle in multiple knot sizes. Sometimes the standard is simply not for me, which means I usually pass on that purchase.

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 01-15-2016, 03:46 PM
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I sold my Simpson Chubby 2 in Super and used the funds to buy a Thater 2-band 24 mm fan. With Thater, a fan is a fan and a bulb is a bulb. The Simpson had a weird knot, neither fan nor bulb. With it's density, it felt pointy to me; had a section of the knot off-center that would not splay and just poked. The Thater fan splays very nicely and is sensitive to the pressure you apply. More pressure = more splay, slight pressure = slight splay. Nice, soft scrubbing action regardless of how much pressure. The Thater is softer than the Chubby Super I had, but not as dense and for my taste lacks a just a little backbone. That's why I have a Thater 2-band 26 mm bulb in the mail to me. But if I had to choose between the Chubby 2 Super and Thater 4125/1 fan, I'd pick the Thater.

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 01-15-2016, 03:49 PM
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(01-15-2016, 03:46 PM)Jairow Wrote: I sold my Simpson Chubby 2 in Super and used the funds to buy a Thater 2-band 24 mm fan. With  Thater, a fan is a fan and a bulb is a bulb. The Simpson had a weird knot, neither fan nor bulb. With it's density, it felt pointy to me; had a section of the knot off-center that would not splay and just poked. The Thater fan splays very nicely and is sensitive to the pressure you apply. More pressure = more splay, slight pressure = slight splay. Nice, soft scrubbing action regardless of how much pressure. The Thater is softer than the Chubby Super I had, but not as dense and for my taste lacks a just a little backbone. That's why I have a Thater 2-band 26 mm bulb in the mail to me.  But if I had to choose between the Chubby 2 Super and Thater 4125/1 fan, I'd pick the Thater.

Great analysis! I have a Chubby 2 in Best that has a shape that is exactly how you describe. I don't hate it, but I'm not quite sure what to think of it. It's a mix between a bulb and a fan, it seems. I want a Thater because the bulb looks like a true bulb, and it would complement nicely my Rooney Emillion 2 which is a proper fan.

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 01-15-2016, 04:13 PM
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(01-15-2016, 01:37 PM)chromedometone Wrote: Anyone have any experience with them?  Im thinking of picking one up in a 26mm k it. It's either that or a chubby 2 super to go wit my chubby 2 in best.  Any thoughts?

These two brushes are quite different, really.
The Chubby 2 Super is extremely dense, with soft tips and very good back.
The Thater 2-Bands are not nearly as dense, moderate backbone and, probably, the softest tips you'll find in a brush.
The backbone will depend on the type of knot you choose; a bulb-shaped knot will offer more backbone, whereas a fan-shaped one will feel much larger with decreased backbone.

Good luck.

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