01-16-2016, 01:56 PM
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Brush makers, at least Simpson, advises to apply lather to the face using a back-and-forth motion, vice circular.  The logic is said to be that it is better for the longevity of the brush.  Why, then, doesn't shaving soap come in rectangular bars instead of round tins?  Should this logic hold with applying the soap to the brush?  Undecided

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 01-16-2016, 02:01 PM
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  • Aleksey
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(01-16-2016, 01:56 PM)john parker Wrote: Brush makers, at least Simpson, advises to apply lather to the face using a back-and-forth motion, vice circular.  The logic is said to be that it is better for the longevity of the brush.  Why, then, doesn't shaving soap come in rectangular bars instead of round tins?  Should this logic hold with applying the soap to the brush?  Undecided

Mike's Natural soaps came in bar form. Biggrin
I guess it applies, too. I don't know where but I remember NSWE directional motion loads the brush easier.
On the other hand, I'm perfectly fine with my technique, and I won't give up circular motions.

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 01-16-2016, 02:05 PM
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  • ben74
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A few thoughts:
Easier to load.
Loading is usually more gentle than lathering.
Harder to retrieve product from corners of a tin.
Brush makers make brushes, soap maker make soap - their focus and concerns are different.

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 01-16-2016, 02:22 PM
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I would think most people just disregard the instructions. Of all the YouTube shaving videos I've seen, I've only seen one guy shave with a back and forth motion. For me, It was disturbing to watch. It seemed like a waste of a good brush (Semogue 2000). It would be torture if I could only do back and forth motions. In fact, I would go back to canned goo if that were the case!

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 01-16-2016, 02:27 PM
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I use paint brush strokes 99% of the time with all my badger brushes. Never have any problems making a thick and slick, protective lather.

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 01-16-2016, 02:27 PM
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Oh gee! Your brush shedded? Did you use circular motions? You DID? Sorry mate, no warranty. Take a look at paint brushes, basting brushes, toothbrushes and an old EviBAY shave brush that used Mr Miyagi's 'Paint the fence' Daniel-san motion. They all look like GUMBY.

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 01-16-2016, 02:48 PM
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  • ben74
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I load circular and lather paint brush.

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 01-16-2016, 03:07 PM
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I load circular, start face lathering in a circular motion and end in painting motion. Unless you smash the brush in your face while doing so, life will be alright.

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 01-16-2016, 03:08 PM
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  • Giorgio
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(01-16-2016, 02:05 PM)ben74 Wrote: Brush makers make brushes, soap maker make soap - their focus and concerns are different.


I couldn't have said it better  Biggrin

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 01-16-2016, 03:14 PM
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(01-16-2016, 02:27 PM)chazt Wrote: I use paint brush strokes 99% of the time with all my badger brushes. Never have any problems making a thick and slick, protective lather.


Agreed.

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 01-16-2016, 04:18 PM
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(01-16-2016, 02:48 PM)ben74 Wrote: I load circular and lather paint brush.

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I have done this for many years.

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 01-16-2016, 04:26 PM
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(01-16-2016, 02:48 PM)ben74 Wrote: I load circular and lather paint brush.
This is what I do as well.

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 01-16-2016, 04:42 PM
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  • kav
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I wonder how many people load their brushes widershins or counterwiddershins. That's old saxon for circling to the right or left, the right supposedly
positive magic VS evil.  How about you lefties out there?

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 01-16-2016, 04:48 PM
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  • BobH
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(01-16-2016, 03:07 PM)German Wrote: I load circular, start face lathering in a circular motion and end in painting motion. Unless you smash the brush in your face while doing so, life will be alright.

Can't agree more.

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 01-16-2016, 04:53 PM
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(01-16-2016, 03:07 PM)German Wrote: I load circular, start face lathering in a circular motion and end in painting motion. Unless you smash the brush in your face while doing so, life will be alright.

Same here. I love the paintbrush strokes. It leaves a very thin layer of lather that works perfectly for me.


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 01-16-2016, 05:01 PM
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(01-16-2016, 04:53 PM)merkur man Wrote:
(01-16-2016, 03:07 PM)German Wrote: I load circular, start face lathering in a circular motion and end in painting motion. Unless you smash the brush in your face while doing so, life will be alright.

Same here. I love the paintbrush strokes. It leaves a very thin layer of lather that works perfectly for me.


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 01-16-2016, 05:04 PM
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A circular tin doesn't preclude one from using painting strokes to load the brush. Also, I've been experimenting with using progressively lighter strokes when I load and having excellent results.

Seems that different brushes present better with different strokes. Some seemingly scritchy brushes feel much nicer nicer with painting motions, while some less compliant but soft brushes really work up a lather with circular motions. 

It's certainly hard to imagine that circular motions alone could be there reason for brush to deteriorate unless the action is too vigorous. In some 'net videos I've seen shavers not only load their brush like they hate the soap, but as though they hate the brush as well.

We may want to consider loading with strokes to the left... the side of wisdom in the East. 

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 01-16-2016, 05:04 PM
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I get that maybe rotating or twisting a brush could be bad but large circular motions wouldn't tangle hairs. Don't worry about it.

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 01-16-2016, 05:07 PM
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I  normally use back and forth motion when face lathering.  When I'm loading the brush, I use both a back and forth motion and a circular motion.  In my mind, there has never been a definitive answer as to why brush manufacturers advise not to use circular motions.

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 01-16-2016, 05:07 PM
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(01-16-2016, 02:48 PM)ben74 Wrote: I load circular and lather paint brush.

+1 Me too ......

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