02-11-2016, 09:32 AM
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(02-11-2016, 03:44 AM)Jamie Mahoney Wrote: 6 in today 1 Dovo 2 TI's 1 Revisor and 2 old Sheffields all in for honing plus 2 them for a new set of scales as well.


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Love the TI's but don't currently have one, hmmmm now it time to look again but I always look at TI's and the elusive CVH MK31 (Can't seem to find one of these is good shape.

Do you ever use JNAT's or just synthetics, I am always curious as to what the seasoned "Honemeisters" use

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 02-11-2016, 09:39 AM
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Benchmade 275. Lighting is crap but look at that bevel! If I do say so myself! All freehand so angles aren't exact it's between 15-18 degrees per side. Taken up to 12k grit stones. Finished with a few passes on a wore out piece of lapping film loaded with black compound and metal polish,since I cut into my kangaroo strop a good friend made for me.
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 02-11-2016, 10:06 AM
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(02-11-2016, 09:32 AM)Panther308 Wrote:
(02-11-2016, 03:44 AM)Jamie Mahoney Wrote: 6 in today 1 Dovo 2 TI's 1 Revisor and 2 old Sheffields all in for honing plus 2 them for a new set of scales as well.


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Love the TI's but don't currently have one, hmmmm now it time to look again but I always look at TI's and the elusive CVH MK31 (Can't seem to find one of these is good shape.

Do you ever use JNAT's or just synthetics, I am always curious as to what the seasoned "Honemeisters" use

William I hone very many razors on average about 10 or 12 every week on a good week up to 20, I don't have the time or desire to mix naturals into my tried and tested progression of synthetics mostly Chosera with a Naniwa Snow White 8K and a Naniwa super stone 12K and a finally a 20K Suehiro Gokumyo, 98% of what needs to be done happens on the 1K stone once you've mastered that stone the next level of refinement 3K, 5K, 8K, 12K, 20 is a very simple proccess, whenever I have a newbie around for a honing lesson I will spend most of our time talking about and using that 1K stone everthing else will eventually fall into place.

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 02-11-2016, 10:46 AM
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(02-11-2016, 10:06 AM)Jamie Mahoney Wrote:
(02-11-2016, 09:32 AM)Panther308 Wrote:
(02-11-2016, 03:44 AM)Jamie Mahoney Wrote: 6 in today 1 Dovo 2 TI's 1 Revisor and 2 old Sheffields all in for honing plus 2 them for a new set of scales as well.


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Love the TI's but don't currently have one, hmmmm now it time to look again but I always look at TI's and the elusive CVH MK31 (Can't seem to find one of these is good shape.

Do you ever use JNAT's or just synthetics, I am always curious as to what the seasoned "Honemeisters" use

William I hone very many razors on average about 10 or 12 every week on a good week up to 20, I don't have the time or desire to mix naturals into my tried and tested progression of synthetics mostly Chosera with a Naniwa Snow White 8K and a Naniwa super stone 12K and a finally a 20K Suehiro Gokumyo, 98% of what needs to be done happens on the 1K stone once you've mastered that stone the next level of refinement 3K, 5K, 8K, 12K, 20 is a very simple proccess, whenever I have a newbie around for a honing lesson I will spend most of our time talking about and using that 1K stone everthing else will eventually fall into place.

Good advice and I agree. Your lower grits make or break your edges. As far as the naniwa stones go isn't it true the chosera and superstores have the same abrasives only different binders? Look my extra thick naniwa SS 12k. Actually IMO naniwa>shapton on 98% Of steels. The other 2% are your "supersteels" that the shalt on tend to cut a little faster. Downside is the shapton level a less refined scratch pattern than naniwas st the same grit

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 02-11-2016, 05:06 PM
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Jamie,

The reason i ask is i recently sold off my synthetics (Naniwa SS 1K, 5K, Suehiro Cerax 8K, Shapton 12 and Shapton 16 Glass and am going simple with a Chosera 1K, Shapton 4/8K glass then either a Okudo Asagi Tomae or Nakayama Asagi Tomae JNAT with a DN #600 slurry and then one of several tomo slurry's to finish, I honestly never used the 16K that much as i found the edge just a bit to keen but I may have not had it dialed in as i have only been going a few months.

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 02-11-2016, 09:50 PM
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William there's absolutely nothing wrong with going down the natural route if you have time and lots of patience on your hands and only a few of your own razors to hone, what the hell have a bit of fun mix it up try things out  enjoy the time and proccess, sadly I rarely hone my own razors I cannot afford to play around with a paying customers who send me $500 or $600 dollar razors I want a tried and tested progression with a 100% result everytime. Smile

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 02-12-2016, 05:24 AM
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Jamie,

Out of curosity how long does it take you to hone a razor that has no issues with synthetics say up to the 20K mark which I find very interesting, I assume you don't spend long on the 20K.

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 02-12-2016, 05:49 AM
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(02-12-2016, 05:24 AM)Panther308 Wrote: Jamie,

Out of curosity how long does it take you to hone a razor that has no issues with synthetics say up to the 20K mark which I find very interesting, I assume you don't spend long on the 20K.

Very quick if I kill the edge and I'm dealing with a full hollow with absolutely no issues tape the spine set the bevel off the Chosera 1K, can wrap it up including stropping 15 minutes.

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 02-13-2016, 05:32 AM
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(02-12-2016, 05:49 AM)Jamie Mahoney Wrote:
(02-12-2016, 05:24 AM)Panther308 Wrote: Jamie,

Out of curosity how long does it take you to hone a razor that has no issues with synthetics say up to the 20K mark which I find very interesting, I assume you don't spend long on the 20K.

Very quick if I kill the edge and I'm dealing with a full hollow with absolutely no issues tape the spine set the bevel off the Chosera 1K, can wrap it up including stropping 15 minutes.

Not that quick for me, I usually always breadknife/join the edge and if the straight was already shave ready I don't go to the 1K I just go 4/8 and finisher with one of two JNATS on a DN #600 slurry then one of a few different tomo slurrys and then linen & leather all in all close to 20-25 mins but honeing relaxes me.

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 02-15-2016, 10:54 AM
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Well flattened my new stones this a.m and then joined the edge on this Fili and proceeded to work my way from C1K then to the Shapton GS 4/8K then finished on an Okudo with a #600 DN slurry then tomo slurry down to a mist.

These new Shaptons give so much more feedback that the Naniwas, did not take but a few minutes on the C1K to reset the bevel and the JNAT is always a great finished edge, going to take this one and set it aside and count each shave to see how long just stropping on leather will carry me.

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 02-15-2016, 01:13 PM
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Jamie, I'm afraid I can't afford to get too fancy right now with freehand equipment (the price of tomatoes is ridiculous here Biggrin), but I can get an Imanishi 1K/6K combo stone. This would be for a straight I hope to buy as well as kitchen knives. Is this an okay entry-level choice?

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 02-16-2016, 08:22 AM
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Gave 4 shavers a quick touchup on the 4/8K Shapton GS and then a DN 600 slurry followed by a tomo slurry on the Nakayama, this is a test, I only spent about 2 mins or so on each stone and on the finisher i spent the most time then linen/leather


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 02-18-2016, 04:30 AM
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The Big Boys in today Joesph Rogers 9/8 Dutch Rattler.


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 02-18-2016, 05:06 AM
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(02-18-2016, 04:30 AM)Jamie Mahoney Wrote: The Big Boys in today Joesph Rogers 9/8 Dutch Rattler.


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Great looking blade

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 02-18-2016, 07:28 AM
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Alfredo it's a monster not mine sadly, the spine width is 7.6mm the tang 15.7mm at the widest point a true giant, I would imagine it started it's life as a 10/8.

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 02-18-2016, 07:39 PM
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Jamie,

That sir is a beautiful thing !!!!

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 02-18-2016, 10:05 PM
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(02-18-2016, 07:39 PM)Panther308 Wrote: Jamie,

That sir is a beautiful thing !!!!

Thanks William the razor belongs to Alastair who's also the UK artisan strop maker Westholme.

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 02-19-2016, 05:45 AM
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5 in today back out Monday they are pretty straight forward no issues.


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 02-19-2016, 10:17 AM
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Got a Otto Busch back from Alfredo (Doc226) he worked down some very clunky ivory scales on this one so it gave me a chance to feed my honing monkey, joined the edge as usual then reset the bevel on the 4K Shapton GS then hit the 8K and finished on an Okudo Asagi Tomae with a #600 DN slurry then tomo slurry down to a mist and then linen/leather.

Shave was outstanding, this steel just takes an excellent edge.

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 02-19-2016, 05:18 PM
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Touched this one up a day ago, finished on a Hakayama Kiita

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