02-12-2016, 08:23 AM
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Seeking a rhodium Aristocrat #16. It's a long shot, but I'm interesting is seeing what all the fuss is about. Willing to buy outright, but would prefer to trade some/all of the following as part of the transaction.

Hardware:

+ Simpson Wee Scot (used ~5 times) with box
+ EJ DE89 - knurled handle, no damage
+ Captain's Choice lather bowl (original) in brown
+ Old Spice mug
+ Omega pro brush - black handle, light use
+ 150ish blades (Astra SP & Voskhod)

Soap:

+ B&M Lavanille (used twice)
+ B&M Seville (95%)
+ CRSW Fall (used twice)
+ CRSW Citrus (6 oz, 90%+)
+ CRSM Puro Fresco (95%+)
+ Mike's Natural Orange Cedarwood (90%+)
+ Mike's Natural Hungarian Lavender (used twice)
+ Mike's Natural Vetiver (used once)
+ Cella brick - unused since I cut pieces off, about 350g remaining
+ Saponificio Varesino Flying Mango (used <10 times)
+ Cade hard soap, grated into IKEA container (~90%)
+ Cade cream in tub (used 3 times)

Aftershave:

+ Floid Blue (95%)
+ Stirling Sharp Dressed Man splash and balm (~90%)
+ Lucky Tiger (95%)
+ Gentleman's Refinery balm (95%)
+ Proraso Green (95%)

There's some good and some not so exciting stuff on the list. I'm happy to provide pics, but you guys know what this stuff looks like. Like I said, it's a long shot, so I'm not going to go through the trouble of posting a bunch if there's just no interest.

Thanks for looking.

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 02-12-2016, 08:45 AM
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Good luck with your search. The #16 and #21 are my absolute favourite vintage shavers in aesthetics as well as in shaving performance. I wish you the best and will look forward to reading your thoughts once you've had a chance to experience these beauties for yourself. I own both and don't expect them to leave anytime soon Smile

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 02-12-2016, 08:49 AM
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You own both?  Oh come on, you know you prefer the #21, so that ugly old #16 is just sitting there taking up space.  Stupid razor.  You should really just get rid of it.



Thanks for the well wishes.  I'm pretty sure nothing will come of this, but it's worth a shot.

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 02-13-2016, 07:56 AM
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(02-12-2016, 08:49 AM)repete66219 Wrote: You own both?  Oh come on, you know you prefer the #21, so that ugly old #16 is just sitting there taking up space.  Stupid razor.  You should really just get rid of it.



Thanks for the well wishes.  I'm pretty sure nothing will come of this, but it's worth a shot.

I have tried most all the different "older" razors and all the "new" razors (Wolfman, Weber, ATT, Feather, Jagger, Murker, Tredare, etc) and the #16 is by far my favorite.  I picked one (1948 version) up on a trip to Scotland. I can put any blade in it, and it just plain gets the job done, close and comfortable.  The Jr. (solid bottom plate) and #21 are a go to second place with the ATT S1 as a number 3.

If you can get one in decent shape and have it reworked and re-plated,  would be good if you can get one at a lower price range. I was lucky enough mine was like new and for a back up I got one that was in not very good shape and as stated had it re-worked and re-plated for less than I could find one in excellent shape and it works as my everyday razor and I take the original out for the weekends.

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 02-13-2016, 08:59 AM
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Oh man, you have TWO?! You guys are killing me.

Who did the refurbishing?

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 02-13-2016, 01:04 PM
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(02-13-2016, 08:59 AM)repete66219 Wrote: Oh man, you have TWO?! You guys are killing me.

Who did the refurbishing?
Razor Emporium did the revamp (Tune-up & Rhodium Re-plating). They did an excellent job with fast turn around and very good customer service.  I got a #16 that was in poor shape for $55 on the Bay (person selling it did not know what it was and thought it was a Tech and when I told them what it was they did not care and kept the listing the same) and it cost me $95 to revamp. It is smooth as silk and looks like brand new.  It shaves identical as my other one that is totally all original!  If I was to guess I would say that the plating on the revamp is thicker than the original.

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 02-16-2016, 11:51 AM
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(02-13-2016, 01:04 PM)fishfinder Wrote:
(02-13-2016, 08:59 AM)repete66219 Wrote: Oh man, you have TWO?! You guys are killing me.

Who did the refurbishing?
Razor Emporium did the revamp (Tune-up & Rhodium Re-plating). They did an excellent job with fast turn around and very good customer service.  I got a #16 that was in poor shape for $55 on the Bay (person selling it did not know what it was and thought it was a Tech and when I told them what it was they did not care and kept the listing the same) and it cost me $95 to revamp. It is smooth as silk and looks like brand new.  It shaves identical as my other one that is totally all original!  If I was to guess I would say that the plating on the revamp is thicker than the original.

OK, this is my last offer.  I'll take either one of those #16s off your hands for a reasonable price and/or trade for stuff.  For the love of humanity, just do it man!!!

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 02-16-2016, 11:55 AM
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Good luck with the hunt. They truly are great shavers! Though I'd throw in the #58 in the mix as well.

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 02-16-2016, 12:25 PM
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Yeah, I'm trying to get my head around all the numbers--16, 21, 15, 66, etc.  Is there a good resource that sorts all of them out?  As I understand it, the #16 is an ideal place to start.

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 02-16-2016, 04:21 PM
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(02-16-2016, 12:25 PM)repete66219 Wrote: Yeah, I'm trying to get my head around all the numbers--16, 21, 15, 66, etc.  Is there a good resource that sorts all of them out?  As I understand it, the #16 is an ideal place to start.

Please see the 2 following links:

http://www.razorarchive.com/understandin...ristocrats

http://mr-razor.com/Rasierer/One-Piece%2...%20bar.htm

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 02-16-2016, 06:22 PM
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Different strokes for different folks.

You'll have to try them all to really know which one you like the best. Otherwise how would you really know one you didn't try isn't really the best for you?

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 02-16-2016, 06:39 PM
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(02-16-2016, 04:21 PM)fishfinder Wrote:
(02-16-2016, 12:25 PM)repete66219 Wrote: Yeah, I'm trying to get my head around all the numbers--16, 21, 15, 66, etc.  Is there a good resource that sorts all of them out?  As I understand it, the #16 is an ideal place to start.

Please see the 2 following links:

http://www.razorarchive.com/understandin...ristocrats

http://mr-razor.com/Rasierer/One-Piece%2...%20bar.htm
I've read those. They cover some of the numbers but not all of them. I don't recall #58 being mentioned. 
(02-16-2016, 06:22 PM)bakerbarber Wrote: Different strokes for different folks.

You'll have to try them all to really know which one you like the best. Otherwise how would you really know one you didn't try isn't really the best for you?
They're $200+ each so unless I win the Powerball tonight I'm not really in the position to try them all. Thus, I'll take into consideration the testimony of those with more experience.

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 02-17-2016, 02:16 PM
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(02-16-2016, 06:39 PM)repete66219 Wrote:
(02-16-2016, 04:21 PM)fishfinder Wrote:
(02-16-2016, 12:25 PM)repete66219 Wrote: Yeah, I'm trying to get my head around all the numbers--16, 21, 15, 66, etc.  Is there a good resource that sorts all of them out?  As I understand it, the #16 is an ideal place to start.

Please see the 2 following links:

http://www.razorarchive.com/understandin...ristocrats

http://mr-razor.com/Rasierer/One-Piece%2...%20bar.htm
I've read those. They cover some of the numbers but not all of them. I don't recall #58 being mentioned. 

(02-16-2016, 06:22 PM)bakerbarber Wrote: Different strokes for different folks.

You'll have to try them all to really know which one you like the best. Otherwise how would you really know one you didn't try isn't really the best for you?
They're $150+ each so unless I win the Powerball tonight I'm not really in the position to try them all. Thus, I'll take into consideration the testimony of those with more experience.
The #58 is not an Aristocrat, but is a British fat handled razor similar to the Rocket.

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 02-18-2016, 01:37 PM
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I would say it shaves similar to the rocket hd and hd 500 but the fit and finish is above the rockets and perhaps below the main aristocrats. I've owned all three and sold all the rockets and have multiple backup #58s. They shave extremely smooth and I kept them in regular rotation with my #16 and #22. The #66s I released into the wild along with the hd and the monobloc.

I went looking for an ad I had seen posted online officially referring to the #58 as an aristocrat junior. I can't give credit to the poster as I can't remember who posted it. Please see below and I hope this helps.

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