03-05-2016, 10:01 AM
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Anybody familiar with Ace 2-band knots? Bob at Elite razors used one in my wooden M7 style brush, and the knot was FANTASTIC at 24x48. Well, that brush moved along a few months back and I regretted it immediately. I emailed Bob a few weeks later and he was kind enough to sell me a knot at an extremely reasonable price.

I finally got around to putting this knot in a handle. At 24mm, the IB Plissoft was a great donor brush, especially considering the cost of the brush. Without modifying the handle, the shortest I could set the know was 51mm. I just used the brush for today's shave and am VERY happy with it. This brush will run very similar to my recent Duke 3 Manchurian.

Highly recommend these Ace knots! Some scrub but absolutely zero scritch. Cloud like tips, great backbone too. Not a single out of place "dark" hair in the entire knot.

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 03-05-2016, 10:33 AM
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Thanks for a useful review.  Where does one get Ace knots?

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 03-05-2016, 11:32 AM
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Only ebay as far as I know, from aceshaving.

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 03-06-2016, 08:09 AM
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I purchased a 26 and a 28 mm both were less than impressive. First they looked like 3 band knots to me. The backbone was very weak for my taste, and the density was pretty average. I have a 28mm TGN 2 -band that has  more backbone than the corresponding Ace Shaving knot. When I set the knots in handles I lowered the loft to compensate for the backbone deficiency, that led to unbearable scritch.  Obviously a  YMMV situation, but that is my experience with 2-band Ace Shaving knots.

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 03-06-2016, 09:26 AM
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(03-06-2016, 08:09 AM)mainaman Wrote: I purchased a 26 and a 28 mm both were less than impressive. First they looked like 3 band knots to me. The backbone was very weak for my taste, and the density was pretty average. I have a 28mm TGN 2 -band that has  more backbone than the corresponding Ace Shaving knot. When I set the knots in handles I lowered the loft to compensate for the backbone deficiency, that led to unbearable scritch.  Obviously a  YMMV situation, but that is my experience with 2-band Ace Shaving knots.

Wow, either completely different knots when they go above 24mm or a huge instance of YMMV. I find my Ace blows away TGN 2-bands that I have had in the past.

I was going to buy a 30mm but now am questioning their larger sizes.

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 03-06-2016, 09:32 AM
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I think the problem is QC. I have seen exceptional Ace and FS knots, and some pretty shoddy ones as well. The higher prices of Shavemac, Thater, Simpson's, et al are due at least in part to more rigorous QC both in knot construction and hair selection.

You can absolutely get an outstanding knot from any of the Chinese direct sellers, but there is a greater risk of getting a subpar product since the low costs usually preclude intense scrutiny and QC.

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 03-06-2016, 09:33 AM
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(03-06-2016, 09:26 AM)buickrob Wrote:
(03-06-2016, 08:09 AM)mainaman Wrote: I purchased a 26 and a 28 mm both were less than impressive. First they looked like 3 band knots to me. The backbone was very weak for my taste, and the density was pretty average. I have a 28mm TGN 2 -band that has  more backbone than the corresponding Ace Shaving knot. When I set the knots in handles I lowered the loft to compensate for the backbone deficiency, that led to unbearable scritch.  Obviously a  YMMV situation, but that is my experience with 2-band Ace Shaving knots.

Wow, either completely different knots when they go above 24mm or a huge instance of YMMV.  I find my Ace blows away TGN 2-bands that I have had in the past.

I was going to buy a 30mm but now am questioning their larger sizes.

When I got the knots I thought there was a mistake and they had sent me the wrong kind, but did not bother to inquire. For what is worth the 30 mm 2-band TGN are pretty bad as well I sampled 3 knots in that size all very scritchy, great backbone though. 
Right now Nathan Clark's Envy White 30mm knot seems to be the best option. Not too dense but with the correct loft it has pretty good backbone and very soft tips. Mine also had pretty much no black hairs in it.

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 03-06-2016, 10:06 AM
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Never tried ACE.

I haven't gotten a TGN dud yet out of a half dozen in various grades.

I have two Envy White knots but haven't shaved with one yet. Actually going to use one shortly though as I just set it yesterday and was quite impressed with it during the wash and test lather. I'll be shocked if it doesn't deliver on the face after feeling it on my hand several times last night. It's dry now and while less dense than even Simpsons Best it is softer at the tips with more backbone. I set it at a relatively high loft too.

I've never had the gumption to try the ACE or Virginia Sheng knots. There's just too many mixed signals reading the reviews.
For the time and money I'm inclined to stick with the tried and true for my restores. By that I mean, they can't save me that much money if there's a chance I have to spend extra time because I get a bad one.

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 03-06-2016, 10:23 AM
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Maybe I've been lucky, but until I get a bad one I'll speak well of Ace. Here it is next to my Envy White 24mm. I find them equally excellent. Envy on the right in both pics.

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 03-06-2016, 10:39 AM
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Looks great!

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