03-27-2016, 11:37 AM
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So I am in desperate need of some help. I love my 1948 50 aristocrat and #58 but I want a modern razor that shaves like these two. I have the ATT M1 and R1 but neither are very smooth the M1 isn't bad but I was considering the wolfman for how smooth everyone says it is. And later maybe a feather.


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 03-27-2016, 12:10 PM
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Feather, readily available and very nice.  Wolfman, a little hard to find in the wild, and also very nice.

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 03-27-2016, 12:11 PM
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(03-27-2016, 12:10 PM)hrfdez Wrote: Feather, readily available and very nice.  Wolfman, a little hard to find in the wild, and also very nice.


So either one would provide a similar shave?

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 03-27-2016, 12:14 PM
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(03-27-2016, 12:11 PM)Mastermason151 Wrote:
(03-27-2016, 12:10 PM)hrfdez Wrote: Feather, readily available and very nice.  Wolfman, a little hard to find in the wild, and also very nice.


So either one would provide a similar shave?

I own both and the Feather is milder.  The Wolfmam IMO is right in the middle unless you get the modification to make it more aggressive.  Of course this is one of those YMMV situation.

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 03-27-2016, 12:22 PM
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(03-27-2016, 12:14 PM)hrfdez Wrote:
(03-27-2016, 12:11 PM)Mastermason151 Wrote:
(03-27-2016, 12:10 PM)hrfdez Wrote: Feather, readily available and very nice.  Wolfman, a little hard to find in the wild, and also very nice.


So either one would provide a similar shave?

I own both and the Feather is milder.  The Wolfmam IMO is right in the middle unless you get the modification to make it more aggressive.  Of course this is one of those YMMV situation.


Thank you so much for taking the time out of your day to help me. Now I just have to wait till the list opens again.

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 03-27-2016, 12:29 PM
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You got it, my pleasure.  Smile

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 03-27-2016, 01:17 PM
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Feather AS-D2 is  the mildest DE razor I have tired, whereas the Wolfman standard-gap is medium to a bit more of an aggression.

If you already have the ATT M1 & R1 and you don't enjoy them, I doubt you'll find a modern razor that shaves as smooth as your Artistocrat, but the Wolfman might be a good option, but a very long wait.
There are just so many choices and you might not get on with the newer razors until you try them for yourself.

If you are truly happy with your Aristocrats, why change things? I would suggest investing in a few more of the British Aristocrats to complement the two you have, then you'll have a wonderful collection of great shavers. The modern razors are no better than these fine vintage ones.  Thumbsup

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 03-27-2016, 01:18 PM
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Celestino is right, I don't know if you can find an equal to those Aristocrats.

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 03-27-2016, 01:23 PM
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If you are looking for something modern, I find the Mongoose to be an amazing razor. It has usurped all of my DEs for the top spot

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 03-27-2016, 01:26 PM
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(03-27-2016, 01:17 PM)celestino Wrote: Feather AS-D2 is  the mildest DE razor I have tired, whereas the Wolfman standard-gap is medium to a bit more of an aggression.

If you already have the ATT M1 & R1 and you don't enjoy them, I doubt you'll find a modern razor that shaves as smooth as your Artistocrat, but the Wolfman might be a good option, but a very long wait.
There are just so many choices and you might not get on with the newer razors until you try them for yourself.

If you are truly happy with your Aristocrats, why change things? I would suggest investing in a few more of the British Aristocrats to complement the two you have, then you'll have a wonderful collection of great shavers. The modern razors are no better than these fine vintage ones.  Thumbsup


I know the choices are endless and I do have quite a variety of vintage Gillette razors including the #16, #21, 22, and a 66 and the junior. I only have three American aristocrats but they are all nice. I was just hoping to add another modern to the collection that I would love to use. Right now I only have the ATT, parker r65, and EJ89. I just hate chrome plated razors, maybe because I'm used to the rhodium plating on my other babies. Maybe it's my RAD kicking in.

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 03-27-2016, 01:29 PM
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(03-27-2016, 01:23 PM)DamnitGoose Wrote: If you are looking for something modern, I find the Mongoose to be an amazing razor. It has usurped all of my DEs for the top spot


I may have to try to find one.

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 03-27-2016, 01:41 PM
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If what you want is to add another modern, then you can't go wrong with either a Goose, a Feather, or a Wolfman.  Is just a matter of what you want to achieve with it.

Rhodium is another whole different story.  I am having Chris do Rhodium in two of my Fatboys and my 1966 Slim.  I am not selling them, so might as well Biggrin

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 03-27-2016, 01:42 PM
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I also really like the #58 and TTO American aristocrats.

Have a Feather, ATT M1 & R1, and a Wolfman.

The Feather is great. It takes some time to learn how to use it. At first a lot of guys think it's not efficient. It has a very narrow range where the blade will actually shave. You almost have to pivot at your elbow and lock your wrist or take very short strokes until it makes sense.

I think the Feather is exceptional. 

The ATT M1 is similar, but not as demanding with the technique. It's a tad bit less smooth and sightly more efficient for me.

Wolfman is smooth, efficient, and forgiving. 

One of my other favorites, that isn't new is a British Gillette Aristocrat Jr. The one with a flat blade tray. Like the #16 and #22. All three are outstanding. 

Any would be excellent daily drivers for me I've mentioned above except for the ATT R1.

At the end of the day, it depends on my mood.

If you want modern stainless- Feather, ATT, and Wolfman are all excellent options. You'll wait a while or pay up if you have to have to try a Wolfman right away.

You might not find greener pastures. You'll never know unless you try for yourself. 

I agree with Celstino. Check out the British Aristocrats too. The flat kind with one of the patents being 430,330 I think. (I'm on my phone-not sure on that)

Good luck.

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 03-27-2016, 01:43 PM
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(03-27-2016, 01:41 PM)hrfdez Wrote: If what you one is to add another modern, then you can't go wrong with either a Goose, a Feather, or a Wolfman.  Is just a matter of what you want to achieve with it.

Rhodium is another whole different story.  I am having Chris do Rhodium in two of my Fatboys and my 1966 Slim.  I am not selling them, so might as well Biggrin


Chris from??? I'm looking at having my 16 redone. How is his work?

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 03-27-2016, 01:46 PM
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(03-27-2016, 01:43 PM)Mastermason151 Wrote:
(03-27-2016, 01:41 PM)hrfdez Wrote: If what you one is to add another modern, then you can't go wrong with either a Goose, a Feather, or a Wolfman.  Is just a matter of what you want to achieve with it.

Rhodium is another whole different story.  I am having Chris do Rhodium in two of my Fatboys and my 1966 Slim.  I am not selling them, so might as well Biggrin


Chris from??? I'm looking at having my 16 redone. How is his work?

Top Notch!  Probably the best I have seen.

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 03-27-2016, 01:47 PM
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(03-27-2016, 01:42 PM)bakerbarber Wrote: I also really like the #58 and TTO American aristocrats.

Have a Feather, ATT M1 & R1, and a Wolfman.

The Feather is great. It takes some time to learn how to use it. At first a lot of guys think it's not efficient. It has a very narrow range where the blade will actually shave. You almost have to pivot at your elbow and lock your wrist or take very short strokes until it makes sense.

I think the Feather is exceptional. 

The ATT M1 is similar, but not as demanding with the technique. It's a tad bit less smooth and sightly more efficient for me.

Wolfman is smooth, efficient, and forgiving. 

One of my other favorites, that isn't new is a British Gillette Aristocrat Jr. The one with a flat blade tray. Like the #16 and #22. All three are outstanding. 

Any would be excellent daily drivers for me I've mentioned above except for the ATT R1.

At the end of the day, it depends on my mood.

If you want modern stainless- Feather, ATT, and Wolfman are all excellent options. You'll wait a while or pay up if you have to have to try a Wolfman right away.

You might not find greener pastures. You'll never know unless you try for yourself. 

I agree with Celstino. Check out the British Aristocrats too. The flat kind with one of the patents being 430,330 I think. (I'm on my phone-not sure on that)

Good luck.


I just hope to get on the wait list. I have the above mentioned British aristocrats and like them so I guess I'll be on the lookout for a goose, feather and wait list for the wolfman

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 03-27-2016, 01:48 PM
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(03-27-2016, 01:46 PM)hrfdez Wrote:
(03-27-2016, 01:43 PM)Mastermason151 Wrote:
(03-27-2016, 01:41 PM)hrfdez Wrote: If what you one is to add another modern, then you can't go wrong with either a Goose, a Feather, or a Wolfman.  Is just a matter of what you want to achieve with it.

Rhodium is another whole different story.  I am having Chris do Rhodium in two of my Fatboys and my 1966 Slim.  I am not selling them, so might as well Biggrin


Chris from??? I'm looking at having my 16 redone. How is his work?

Top Notch!  Probably the best I have seen.


Is he in this forum?

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 03-27-2016, 01:48 PM
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Not sure.  Just do a Google Razorplate search, can't miss it.

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 03-27-2016, 01:49 PM
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(03-27-2016, 01:48 PM)hrfdez Wrote: Not sure.  Just do a Google Razorplate search, can't miss it.


Thank you so much

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 03-27-2016, 04:19 PM
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You might want to try the ATT M2. I have that and the Wolfman. I think it's just as smooth as the Wolfman, but it has a little more blade exposure, so you can feel the blade a little more. The Wolfman is a little more efficient though.

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