04-07-2016, 01:58 PM
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Hello sirs!
I have a question regarding to ATT Slant top caps. A question was brought to me about the machining of the S2 I am trying to sell. I was wondering if any other "S" model top caps share the same machine marks between the posts as shown on my S cap as well. Is this normal/uniform across the caps or is it unique with the S caps or did I land on a custom design?
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 04-07-2016, 02:13 PM
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This is my S1 topcap.

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 04-07-2016, 02:52 PM
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Those are normal milling marks, no mill marks are the same.  This is mostly caused by the bit itself.  The more the bit wears out, the less milling marks you'll see.  When they use a new bit, the milling marks are always more pronounced.

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 04-07-2016, 02:53 PM
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Indeedy that is the marks from the Bit milling your cap out of solid stainless steel. I love the character of the marks, especially on yours. Very nice!

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 04-07-2016, 03:51 PM
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Thank you very much sirs!! That is good to know.

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 04-07-2016, 04:07 PM
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i have 3 top caps in the att slant and they are all similar. one more pronounced then the others

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 04-07-2016, 06:17 PM
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I own three S caps as well, all are same. Perfectly normal Smile

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 04-07-2016, 06:29 PM
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There has been some discussion about differences in top caps for the ATT slants. I believe the distinguishing feature is most prominent with the blade alignment posts - rounded ends versus flat (not that they themselves have any effect on performance)...

Machine marks (as noted above) relate to "freshness" of the bit used.

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 04-07-2016, 07:23 PM
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yes there are 2 variations out there. one has the blade exposure being uneven slightly along the edge of the top cap. the other has the blade edge being even along the edge of the top cap. no one as far as i know has got an actual answer at to why the difference. he made a statement a while bad over at b&b forum but then the next batch of top caps had the uneven exposure again so that was debunked.

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 04-07-2016, 08:06 PM
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I have both caps. They shave a tad different. The uneven gap was mid 2015. The latest one was from Jan of this year.

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 04-07-2016, 08:23 PM
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its not the gap that is uneven its the blade exposure or how far the edge of the blade sticks out past the top cap. mine have even blade gap but different blade exposure. i have one that he says is the newest design and it has uneven blade exposure. i got it in december. the ones with the straight blade exposure were from early 2015 and prior to those they also had uneven blade exposure. ill take some pics to show the difference. all of mine are from 2015 also. so unless he changed it yet again then they should look the same.

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 04-08-2016, 04:14 PM
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Both my straight edge ones are 2016 while my uneven edge one is from 2015. Aside from the exposure and shape of pins they're pretty much identical.

The older one, in my opinion, is a tad bit more aggressive. The plates are identical from what I can tell.

Also, the S2 is definitely slightly more aggressive. I find for my tastes the S1 to be the smoother of the two.

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 04-08-2016, 07:12 PM
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the plates also changed mid year 2015....

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 04-09-2016, 04:36 PM
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(04-08-2016, 07:12 PM)mastershake Wrote: the plates also changed mid year 2015....

Good to know and thanks for pointing it out. I wouldn't have known otherwise since all of mine were purchased mid-year on wards and would have to be the newer plates I'm assuming. To my untrained eye, the plates I do have for my S1's are identical.

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 04-09-2016, 06:17 PM
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(04-08-2016, 07:12 PM)mastershake Wrote: the plates also changed mid year 2015....

What was the change, was it announced?

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 04-09-2016, 08:27 PM
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no it was not announced. there is a long thread over at b&b about it. ill try to get some pics also i just will not be back home till monday night.

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 04-13-2016, 06:47 AM
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I was the one who started the thread on B&B, BTW.  Here is a picture of the 2 varieties (both mine).  The "parallel" version on the right is the less common (and likely discontinued) version; it appears to have only been made for a short time.  Both base-plates are marked "2015."

Stan confirmed that he did make a design change (the parallel cap, shown on right), due to customers being confused and thinking the prior design with the uneven exposure (shown on the left) was defective. It appears, though, that he went back to the original design (shown on the left), which I prefer.

The consensus from those who've tried both (myself included) is that the parallel-cap version is a bit milder and smoother.  I prefer more aggressive razors, so I like the original (and what is reportedly the current) version (on the left).

I hope this helps.

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 04-13-2016, 08:12 AM
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I have read the "rumors" and have I believe I have read your post that Stan did confirm. Interesting as what was the outcome or determining factor. I used my S2 before and found one mild-ish...while the recent one i owned felt more aggressive than I remember.
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 04-13-2016, 01:11 PM
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It's also worth noting that there seems to be variation between ATT S heads (outside of the parallel vs. uneven varieties).  I just purchased an S1 head ("2015," uneven blade exposure) from a member here, and it's very mild (much milder than my similar S2), and it appears to be due to a noticeably smaller blade gap (which there should not be, as the S plates are supposed to have the same gap as the R plates, and the OC and SB should not be different from one another).  So, from my experience (and from others' that I've read as well as pictures that I've seen), the ATT slants don't seem to have the consistency that the other ATT (non-slant) heads do.

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 04-13-2016, 01:14 PM
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Thank you, sir. Good to know!

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