05-02-2016, 04:52 AM
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Hi all,

I'm currently looking for a good first boar or badger brush.
I've only used horse hair brush and decided I wanna try out the other common hair types.

What would you consider a good one to start out with? Preferably not too expensive.

Cheers Smile

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 05-02-2016, 04:59 AM
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  • BobH
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I am a face latherer so that might tilt my suggestions. For a boar brush the Omega 10066, sub $10 USD, has been very good for me. Just give a boar brush a couple of weeks of everyday use to break in, tips to flag and soften. I like 2 band badger brushes with soft tips and good backbone. For a sub $100 USD badger brush the Semouge Owners Club , SOC, badger brush is pretty nice for the money.

Bob

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 05-02-2016, 05:01 AM
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  • EricM
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Omega is a good choice for boar.  The Simpson Commodore x3 is a great badger for under $100.  

Eric

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 05-02-2016, 05:07 AM
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  • nikos.a
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Semogue brushes are excellent. I recommend you to try the Semogue Owners' Club brushes. They are well- made and their handles are beautiful.

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 05-02-2016, 05:22 AM
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Semogue 610 is probably a good place to start. Same dimensions as the beloved 620, but with higher-quality bristles so it should break in faster and won't be as scrubby.

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 05-02-2016, 05:55 AM
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Omega 10066 and 49 are both excellent and inexpensive boars.

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 05-02-2016, 06:44 AM
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  • Monchoon
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(05-02-2016, 05:55 AM)TheLegalRazor Wrote: Omega 10066 and 49 are both excellent and inexpensive boars.

The SOC badger and boar are both great.

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 05-02-2016, 07:19 AM
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If you take the boar route, since they are inexpensive, I would get the one you think is the absolute best and like its looks. To me that has to be a Zenith. 
For badgers, there are many options and IMO few are safe bets, particularly at a low price range. 
Have fun!

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 05-02-2016, 07:50 AM
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(05-02-2016, 07:19 AM)lloydrm Wrote: If you take the boar route, since they are inexpensive, I would get the one you think is the absolute best and like its looks. To me that has to be a Zenith. 
For badgers, there are many options and IMO few are safe bets, particularly at a low price range. 
Have fun!

IMO this is misleading as it suggests all boars are similar enough that you should just look at aesthetics. Not only are Omega boars different from Semogue, Semogue has a wide range of bristle quality, knot, and loft within its own boar line. I'd rather get the right knot than the right handle, especially given how different the performance of the high-lofted 90% tops (1250, SOC boar) and the low-lofted 75% tops (620, 1438) are. They're completely different brushes.

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 05-02-2016, 07:56 AM
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  • NJDJ
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I would recommend a Simpson Colonel XL.  Great badger for a good price.  It is about $65, which may seem like a lot, but you should spend the money.  As the saying goes, cry once when you make the purchase or every time you use the item.  I speak from experience.

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 05-02-2016, 09:38 AM
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  • Rufus
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(05-02-2016, 07:56 AM)NJDJ Wrote: I would recommend a Simpson Colonel XL.  Great badger for a good price.  It is about $65, which may seem like a lot, but you should spend the money.  As the saying goes, cry once when you make the purchase or every time you use the item.  I speak from experience.

+1 for the Colonel. If you want to experience both badger and boar try the Vulfix 404, which is a mix of badger and boar.  It's a great brush at a very affordable price.

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 05-02-2016, 09:48 AM
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For Boar, one of the:
Omega İtalian Flag
Semogue 1305
Semogue Sog

For Badger:
Simpson Commodore, or Colonel Series,

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 05-02-2016, 05:58 PM
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  • v4257
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A suggestion against the grain :-) - try a modern synthetic. Razorock has a new series with many brushes around $10 that may do the trick.

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 05-02-2016, 06:25 PM
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For larger I'd suggest the semogue 2000.

Smaller the 1800 / 1305 / 1250 / 620 (smallest of the bunch)

Hope I got those reference numbers correct.

All fairly inexpensive and nice brushes.

My favorite of the group was the 2000 as it was a larger brush that broke in very nicely.

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 05-03-2016, 12:48 AM
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Got around to order the Semogue 610. A pretty good price here in Europe, shipping included.

Thanks for all the advice guys!

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 05-03-2016, 07:33 AM
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The Semogue 610 is an excellent brush! My favorite boar... takes a while to break in, but worth the effort.


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 05-03-2016, 05:40 PM
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(05-02-2016, 07:50 AM)crazindndude Wrote:
(05-02-2016, 07:19 AM)lloydrm Wrote: If you take the boar route, since they are inexpensive, I would get the one you think is the absolute best and like its looks. To me that has to be a Zenith. 
For badgers, there are many options and IMO few are safe bets, particularly at a low price range. 
Have fun!

IMO this is misleading as it suggests all boars are similar enough that you should just look at aesthetics. Not only are Omega boars different from Semogue, Semogue has a wide range of bristle quality, knot, and loft within its own boar line. I'd rather get the right knot than the right handle, especially given how different the performance of the high-lofted 90% tops (1250, SOC boar) and the low-lofted 75% tops (620, 1438) are. They're completely different brushes.

Could you explain the difference between high-lofted tops and low-lofted tops? It's the first time I'm hearing about it. Thanks!

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 05-03-2016, 06:51 PM
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  • Urolex
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Omega 10048
Colonel XL

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 05-03-2016, 07:20 PM
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(05-03-2016, 05:40 PM)kamyon Wrote:
(05-02-2016, 07:50 AM)crazindndude Wrote:
(05-02-2016, 07:19 AM)lloydrm Wrote: If you take the boar route, since they are inexpensive, I would get the one you think is the absolute best and like its looks. To me that has to be a Zenith. 
For badgers, there are many options and IMO few are safe bets, particularly at a low price range. 
Have fun!

IMO this is misleading as it suggests all boars are similar enough that you should just look at aesthetics. Not only are Omega boars different from Semogue, Semogue has a wide range of bristle quality, knot, and loft within its own boar line. I'd rather get the right knot than the right handle, especially given how different the performance of the high-lofted 90% tops (1250, SOC boar) and the low-lofted 75% tops (620, 1438) are. They're completely different brushes.

Could you explain the difference between high-lofted tops and low-lofted tops? It's the first time I'm hearing about it. Thanks!

crazindndude - thanks for pointing that out. I certainty did not intend to imply all boar is the same and was rather trying to say something like= you are better off not counting cents and putting your personal preferences first: choosing the absolute best (but we never know what is the absolute best, so your best guess), and go for a good looking one because I believe that certainly affects our choice at the end of the road. For example, I don't think I could stand the looks of the 1305 (knot and handle combination) for a prolonged period of time. No matter how good a performed it was (unless it was a clear outlier). Personal preference. 

kamyon - you can find more info on that here. http://shavenook.com/showthread.php?tid=4840 Let me warn you: based on that chart the 2000 should be a top performer, the knot at least. I read a few reviews when I was on the market for the Semogue 820 I have and that is not what people are saying about it. Not as consistently as they talk about the 1305 and 830. 

MadBoy - I think you made a good choice. Actually that's what I ordered and got a 820 by mistake. I like to give boars a few (5-10) wet and dry cycles before use. Warm water, palm lather, dry with a towel finishing with painting strokes to speed the hair splitting process, fully air dry (1-2 days), repeat.

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 05-08-2016, 06:22 AM
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First boar I would go with a 1305 
First badger shavemac finest or silver tip , either one I would be happy using exclusively.

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