05-29-2016, 12:02 PM
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On May 20, 2016 , I posted a review of Bob Quinn's (Elite Razor) new badger knots, imported from a Chinese firm which makes them to spec.

http://shavenook.com/showthread.php?tid=41837.

Bob's initial order of knots contained three types.  In the picture below, the knots are, from left to right:  28mm Manchurian White 2-Band; 26mm High Mountain White 3-Band; and 24mm Manchurian White 2-Band.

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My prior thread dealt with Bob's 28mm Manchurian White 2-Band.  I noted that I was expecting another brush with Bob's 24mm Manchurian White 2-Band, and that my review of that brush would appear in this Part 2.

Here is a picture of the new brush immediately after it came out of the box.  The loft is set at 50mm:
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Here is the brush after one shave:

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Here is the brush, also after one shave, in my hand:

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The knot is nicely shaped.  I would label this a hybrid knot, whereas the 28mm was a definite bulb.  Here is picture of the two brushes so you can see the difference in the shape of the knots:

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My 24mm knot measures 27+mm  at the top of the handle, so it is well stuffed.  There is no glue bump.  The brush has not shed a single hair after one shave. Density appears to be just slighlty less than the 28mm (which measured 32mm + at the top of the handle) but is still quite good.  The brush exhibits solid backbone, soft tips, and no scritch whatsoever.  I find the knot performs well at the 50mm loft.  However, there is some room to play with the loft.  For those who want more backbone and scrub, the hybrid shape of the knot would allow it to still work well at a 48mm loft.  For those who want more softness and splay, this knot would still have adequate backbone at a 52mm loft.  The knot has excellent flow and release of lather.

These new knots from Bob are of such quality that one can have an artisan brush with both the handle and the knot being comparable to the high end brushes from a top manufacturer. 

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 05-29-2016, 08:01 PM
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Congratulations on the two brushes, Ricardo! Thumbsup

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 05-29-2016, 08:26 PM
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts. That's a sweet looking brush.  I agree with your assessment of the 24mm knot. As I posted in Part 1, I have the same knot in a lapis E7 style handle. I couldn't be happier with the final product.
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 05-30-2016, 03:25 AM
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(05-29-2016, 08:26 PM)number six Wrote: Thanks for sharing your thoughts. That's a sweet looking brush.  I agree with your assessment of the 24mm knot. As I posted in Part 1, I have the same knot in a lapis E7 style handle. I couldn't be happier with the final product.
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Thanks for posting a picture of your new brush Chris.  Your lapis E7 is a beautiful handle.  Interestingly, my 24mm has bloomed into a hybrid, while yours is a bulb.  What is the loft on yours?

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 05-30-2016, 07:45 AM
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The loft is 50mm, at the handle the knot is 26.5mm. BTW, I love the look of that faux ivory. I assume it is Bob's neo-resinate material.  Very elegant.

To me this really hits all the marks for a great knot, and handle as well.  There is plenty of backbone without any, I mean zero, scritch.  The brush splays well and easily returns to it's shape without leaving a gap in the middle of the knot; because of this the bulb shape works great.  Lather is held by the hairs so doesn't sink into the knot, but is released easily during application. 

Since it's a holiday, here are some pics of a test lather using Beaver Woodwright Black Beard.. which smells great and produces beautiful lather.  Easily enough for three passes.

1. Brush loaded:
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2. In bowl during hydration
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3. After first lather
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4. After second lather
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5. After rinse
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6. After towel dry
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 05-30-2016, 07:54 AM
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(05-30-2016, 03:25 AM)TheLegalRazor Wrote:
(05-29-2016, 08:26 PM)number six Wrote: Thanks for sharing your thoughts. That's a sweet looking brush.  I agree with your assessment of the 24mm knot. As I posted in Part 1, I have the same knot in a lapis E7 style handle. I couldn't be happier with the final product.
[Image: yecBxeo.jpg]

Thanks for posting a picture of your new brush Chris.  Your lapis E7 is a beautiful handle.  Interestingly, my 24mm has bloomed into a hybrid, while yours is a bulb.  What is the loft on yours?


Thank you all for your feedback on these knots, I appreciate it.

Good eye, Ricardo.  Both brushes are the same loft (50mm), however knowing your preference for strong backbone, the socket in your handle was tightened down just a bit to support the hair and impart a little more backbone.  As a result, the bloom is a somewhat tighter and gives more of a hybrid presentation.

Bob

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 05-30-2016, 11:44 AM
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(05-29-2016, 08:26 PM)number six Wrote: Thanks for sharing your thoughts. That's a sweet looking brush.  I agree with your assessment of the 24mm knot. As I posted in Part 1, I have the same knot in a lapis E7 style handle. I couldn't be happier with the final product.
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How is the weight of the lapis compared to a resin

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 05-30-2016, 07:59 PM
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(05-30-2016, 11:44 AM)bijou Wrote:
(05-29-2016, 08:26 PM)number six Wrote: Thanks for sharing your thoughts. That's a sweet looking brush.  I agree with your assessment of the 24mm knot. As I posted in Part 1, I have the same knot in a lapis E7 style handle. I couldn't be happier with the final product.
[Image: yecBxeo.jpg]
How is the weight of the lapis compared to a resin

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Elite lapis 108 grams
Simpsons M7 83 grams.

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 05-31-2016, 01:56 AM
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(05-30-2016, 07:59 PM)number six Wrote:
(05-30-2016, 11:44 AM)bijou Wrote:
(05-29-2016, 08:26 PM)number six Wrote: Thanks for sharing your thoughts. That's a sweet looking brush.  I agree with your assessment of the 24mm knot. As I posted in Part 1, I have the same knot in a lapis E7 style handle. I couldn't be happier with the final product.
[Image: yecBxeo.jpg]
How is the weight of the lapis compared to a resin

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Elite lapis 108 grams
Simpsons M7 83 grams.
Thank you

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 06-19-2016, 03:03 PM
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The wait begins. .
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 06-24-2016, 12:33 PM
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Very nice.  Is that a Bloody Basin Jasper stone handle?  Please post pictures when your brush arrives.

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 06-24-2016, 08:04 PM
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Those handles look amazing love that Bloody Jasmine, and these new knots sound great.
      Can anyone who has one of the new knots give a comparison to some other well known knots? Not if it is necessarily better or worse, but just some characteristics compared to something better known than this knot (because it is so new).
Thanks

P.S. i will be getting a brush with the new knot soon.

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 06-26-2016, 12:43 PM
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Yes, it's jasper..
Very nice feel in the hand..
Will try and get some pics up

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 06-26-2016, 04:03 PM
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(06-26-2016, 12:43 PM)morecolor Wrote: Yes, it's jasper..
Very nice feel in the hand..
Will try and get some pics up

Yes, we need pictures!

I've ordered a brush made of the same material from Bob.

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 06-29-2016, 06:02 PM
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The Bob Quin brush is more dense then both Espilons. They are all approximately  the same loft with soft tips and good flow through[Image: CUQU3UQ.jpg]

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 06-29-2016, 08:51 PM
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That is a lovely trio! Thumbsup

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 06-30-2016, 03:39 AM
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A lovely trio indeed, with the E7 being superb.  The Epsilons have dense knots, so it's impressive that you find the new Bob Quinn knots more dense.  That Bloody Basin Jasper is so nice that I have a brush made of the same material headed my way from Bob..

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 06-30-2016, 06:32 AM
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I have other M7 style handles. But, the weight and feel of the Jasper has become a favorite.
In order of density 
Bob Quin
Epsilon (plastic handle)
Epsilon limited addition

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 07-04-2016, 08:57 PM
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Interesting, never heard of this until now but that's a sweet brush.

I will certainly check this out.

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 07-08-2016, 06:46 AM
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I have just received a new shipment of the Manchurian White (2-band) in 24, 26 and 28mm knots, as well as some High Mountain White (3-band) in 24mm.

Thanks,  Bob

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