07-29-2012, 06:43 AM
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I think I'm ready to try a open comb de again and the last one I tried was a Gillette knob I think and I'll be honest it tore up my face. And every time I look at a muhle r41 I get hypnotized and I looks to be a milder open comb than the Gillette will it does to me and I might be crazy so any suggestions on a open comb would be great gents

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 07-29-2012, 07:00 AM
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The R41 is a rather effective razor that many users find somewhat aggressive...

It wouldn't be my first suggestion to test the Open Comb waters again!

The more aggressive OC DE razors in my opinion are the R41, Tradere and Joris. I recommend starting with almost any other OC than these. For example: iKon, Merkur and Goodfella offer OC DE razors that are much less likely to have you repeating your earlier OC experience.

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 07-29-2012, 07:13 AM
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i have to agree with Ben. The R41 is the last "open-comb" razor that you want to try as your first one, but YMMV. i would suggest any of the Merkurs such as the 1904 as they are very mild, or a Gillette New Long-Comb, then move on to the R41 when you get comfortable with the OCs. Good luck.

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 07-29-2012, 07:18 AM
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The various Merkur three piece OCs share the same head - or at least the 25C, the 41C (aka 1904) and the 985CL does.

The design of said head - with little blade gap and exposure - gives a very mild and controllable shave. According to a number of sources online it was actually intended to be adjustable... by loosening the handle 1/8 to 1/4 turn you can adjust the blade angle and gap, while the springiness of the blade should keep the mechanism tight. Needless to say I'm not too keen on trying it out... shaving with a loose head? No thanks, I rather have a loose cannon on deck...

Anyhow - if you want to experiment with an OC and want a reasonable mild razor, I can wholeheartedly recommend the various three piece Markur OCs. I like my 25C and 985CL very, very much Blush

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 07-29-2012, 07:23 AM
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I have to agree with the consensus that the R41 (2011) is very aggressive and there are other choices that should fulfill your needs.

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 07-29-2012, 08:04 AM
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Where can I get a good decent price for the Merkur open comb

Well now the hard part is just trying to figure out what kind I wanna try out

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 07-29-2012, 09:46 AM
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I would concur, the Merkur Open Combs are a very mild place to start. No idea on the Goodfella, but from the geometry f the head design and user reviews, it seems mild as well.

Although many love the 2011 R41, it is a very aggressive razor, so much so that many shavers will sell theirs after a few shaves. I personally tested it for a month, got decent shaves with a few blades, but my face always felt raw.

Our very own Phil at Bullgoose has a good price on the Merkur 41 1904OC

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 07-29-2012, 09:58 AM
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Well if people sell theres I would like to try a milder one first

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 07-29-2012, 10:28 AM
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Good idea Tyler. There will always be R41s floating around out there if you get to the point where you know you can handle one.

Dittos the Gillette OLD and variuos NEW models. A Single Ring would also be a good starter OC. They are all more aggressive than a Tech (what razor isn't?), but relative is a relative thing. They aren't even close to the aggressiveness of an 2011 R41.

But let me ask a question. Why an OC? There is no magic to them despite what you might read somewhere. There are aggressive razors with closed combs also. Where I'm going with this is, have you tried an adjustable? A vintage Gillette Slim won't bust the bank and it'll allow you to grow to find out if you even like a more aggressive razor. There are folks who don't like them and never will. With an adjustable you can explore that, and it's a very nice shaver. With a fixed head razor you get what you get and that's the end unless you employ extraordinary means to adjust the head geometry. Get to where you enjoy a Slim set to 9 and you can handle any razor on the planet.

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 07-29-2012, 01:39 PM
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I agree with Brian.

The Slim adjustable is among the best razors I've ever used. Don't ignore it just because other razors are getting the air time at the moment.

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 07-29-2012, 01:59 PM
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(07-29-2012, 10:28 AM)ShadowsDad Wrote: Good idea Tyler. There will always be R41s floating around out there if you get to the point where you know you can handle one.

Dittos the Gillette OLD and variuos NEW models. A Single Ring would also be a good starter OC. They are all more aggressive than a Tech (what razor isn't?), but relative is a relative thing. They aren't even close to the aggressiveness of an 2011 R41.

But let me ask a question. Why an OC? There is no magic to them despite what you might read somewhere. There are aggressive razors with closed combs also. Where I'm going with this is, have you tried an adjustable? A vintage Gillette Slim won't bust the bank and it'll allow you to grow to find out if you even like a more aggressive razor. There are folks who don't like them and never will. With an adjustable you can explore that, and it's a very nice shaver. With a fixed head razor you get what you get and that's the end unless you employ extraordinary means to adjust the head geometry. Get to where you enjoy a Slim set to 9 and you can handle any razor on the planet.

Well sir the funny thing is I once had a Gillette fatboy and I used the 9 setting and of course like a young idiot I sold it and have regretted ever since so yea... And I can't take my eye off the muhle r41 but I guess I'll have to

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 07-29-2012, 04:38 PM
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There's no harm in trying the R41. It works for some people. I didn't find the shave to be that great, and I disliked using it, but there are a lot of guys who swear by it.

Personally, my favourite OC razors are the long-comb NEW and the OCMM.

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 07-29-2012, 04:49 PM
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What is the ocmm stand for

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 07-29-2012, 04:57 PM
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OCMM stand for Open Comb Micromatic from Gem. It's my favorite razor. The R41, however, was the worst razor FOR ME that I've ever used. I never want to put that blood letter on my face again.

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 07-29-2012, 05:00 PM
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GEM MicroMatic

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 07-29-2012, 09:04 PM
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I just wanted to try the OC all I have is CC right now I have a merkur 38c and a Parker 99r which I don't use the Parker period

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 07-29-2012, 09:15 PM
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In my opinion you can't go much wrong with a three piece OC from Merkur - I'm very much enjoying my 25C and 985CL.

Out of curiosity, why are you not using the Parker?

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 07-31-2012, 07:31 AM
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I would go straight for the R41!

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 07-31-2012, 07:54 AM
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(07-31-2012, 07:31 AM)AbsoluteMustard Wrote: I would go straight for the R41!

What is your experience with the r41

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 07-31-2012, 08:31 AM
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(07-31-2012, 07:31 AM)AbsoluteMustard Wrote: I would go straight for the R41!

I am sure you've just expressed your opinion and nothing more but suggestions like this might easily turn off a newcomer out of wetshaving.

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