08-03-2012, 01:27 PM
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Just wondering. They don't seem to be too populous and I am wondering if that is truly the case, and if so, why?

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 08-03-2012, 01:49 PM
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  • Teiste
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I had one,a KIM SON VU which now belongs to Oversaturn.
The handle is beautiful,well made and finish,but Im afraid that its very light.I prefer heavier handle brushes.
I tried a Plisson 14 HWM with a horn handle,and the same : very beautiful,but very light too.

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 08-03-2012, 01:58 PM
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Yep! I still have that one.

Along with a second Kimson Vu and this Semogue horn handle LE, that makes 3 horn handled brushes in my den...

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 08-03-2012, 02:00 PM
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  • Teiste
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(08-03-2012, 01:58 PM)oversaturn Wrote: Yep! I still have that one.

Along with a second Kimson Vu and this Semogue horn handle LE, that makes 3 horn handled brushes in my den...

But,how do you like them,my friend?

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 08-03-2012, 02:09 PM
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(08-03-2012, 02:00 PM)Teiste Wrote:
(08-03-2012, 01:58 PM)oversaturn Wrote: Yep! I still have that one.

Along with a second Kimson Vu and this Semogue horn handle LE, that makes 3 horn handled brushes in my den...

But,how do you like them,my friend?

I too am curious, now that Teiste has revealed a characteristic of horn handles I had no idea existed. I always assumed it weighed the same as resin. Should not have made the assumption.

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 08-03-2012, 02:19 PM
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  • Teiste
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(08-03-2012, 02:09 PM)asharperrazor Wrote:
(08-03-2012, 02:00 PM)Teiste Wrote:
(08-03-2012, 01:58 PM)oversaturn Wrote: Yep! I still have that one.

Along with a second Kimson Vu and this Semogue horn handle LE, that makes 3 horn handled brushes in my den...

But,how do you like them,my friend?

I too am curious, now that Teiste has revealed a characteristic of horn handles I had no idea existed. I always assumed it weighed the same as resin. Should not have made the assumption.

No,my friend,theyre lighter.This is why maybe I dont like them as much as the resin/acrylic ones.

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 08-03-2012, 02:23 PM
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(08-03-2012, 02:09 PM)asharperrazor Wrote:
(08-03-2012, 02:00 PM)Teiste Wrote:
(08-03-2012, 01:58 PM)oversaturn Wrote: Yep! I still have that one.

Along with a second Kimson Vu and this Semogue horn handle LE, that makes 3 horn handled brushes in my den...

But,how do you like them,my friend?

I too am curious, now that Teiste has revealed a characteristic of horn handles I had no idea existed. I always assumed it weighed the same as resin. Should not have made the assumption.

The handles? I like them, they are a beauty too look at (of course), the grip is good and although I have (and like) a few heavy handles, I am not properly picky about that - and I both appreciate the heavy and the light ones.

But I'm used to the weight of the wooden handles of my Semogues, and I find that wooden and horn handles have nearly the same weigh - so that is definitely no problem for me.

And a natural material, like horn or wood, will always rank higher in my book than any synthetic resin. Cool

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 08-03-2012, 03:03 PM
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    Got this M&F one (on the right). . .

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 08-03-2012, 03:11 PM
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I have 2 M&Fs with horn handles, a Plisson size 12 and an Omega with a Stag antler. None of them are what I would describe as "light". They weigh about the same as a similarly sized Simpson. I really like the look and feel of a horn handle.
I would always pick a horn handle over pretty much anything else. Ivory would be an exception if I could afford it I imagine.

Now, my horn handled Joris razor is MUCH lighter than my Palladium one.

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 08-03-2012, 03:29 PM
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i do not have any and was wondering if they are more prone to splitting or breaking. They sure look beautiful!

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 08-03-2012, 04:08 PM
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Horn...

Horn is a beautiful material.

The material is keratin based, so it polishes well. It's glossy finish plays with the light and creates a greater range of colours already present in the material.
It's been used for thousands of years across all parts of the world and is most commonly sourced from ram, buffalo and cow or oxen.

Plisson are famous for their use of horn, here a few pics of mine:

   

   

   

I also have horn handle from M&F, Muhle and TI. They are beautiful pieces that have a nice weight to them and of course each one is unique. The only issues I've had with splitting was one bone handle from M&F.

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 08-03-2012, 09:37 PM
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[Image: IMG_8168.jpg]

The brush on the far right is mine. The next one over is one I bought for my father.

I would not describe these horn handles as light. In fact, they feel more substantial in my hand than my other brushes. Teiste, I need to loan you this M&F. You will change your tune.

These horn handled brushes are a thing of beauty. I will echo everything Ben has said above.

About twice a year, I lightly coat them with Neatsfoot oil.

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 08-03-2012, 10:59 PM
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I have Neatsfoot oil too, but must confess I haven't used it on any of my brushes... yet...

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 08-03-2012, 11:23 PM
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Good advice - I also use the neatsfoot oil.

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 08-04-2012, 12:12 AM
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I have one M&F in horn. It's lovely.

I too use neatsfoot oil too. There are many types, make sure it's pure rather than blended.

It brings back the natural shine and will stop it delaminating.

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 08-04-2012, 07:53 AM
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(08-04-2012, 12:12 AM)Dipesh Wrote: I have one M&F in horn. It's lovely.

I too use neatsfoot oil too. There are many types, make sure it's pure rather than blended.

It brings back the natural shine and will stop it delaminating.

I to have a small collection of Horn Handled shaving brushes, even though they are all similar knot 26mm / 28mm with handle height being the same height.

They do differ quite a lot in dry weight , I have Rooney, Thiers-Issard, Plisson & Morris & Forndran. I suspect on a couple of them there is a small round end cap placed on the base of the handle.

This may well be that the horn used was not a solid length and epoxy was used to fill the void !! of all my horn brushes the Thiers-Issard is the heaviest, then the Rooney, then Plisson, lastly Morris & Forndran.

Another one of my horn handled brush with the most wonderful markings is from the African Zebu cow.

As you say this material (horn) is a natural organic material and should be treated, after a lot of research I found a supplier of 100% pure Neatsfoot Oil. Most neatsfoot oil comes from the U.S.A

Nearly 90% of neatsfoot oil on sale is blended with other oils & spirits not good for horn, only fit for leather.

Ben, I also use this oil on my Ivory brushes as well, as this helps the Ivory from drying out. Stops cracking / splitting. Some research has shown that Ivory will absorb moisture i.e water placed near ivory is helpful.

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 08-04-2012, 04:26 PM
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The maintenance of horn handle brushes just doesn't really appeal to me, and it's hit or miss on whether I like it or not. They look beautiful, but I'll take the synthetic resin most of the time. And some wood too. I seem to be happy with my synthetic resin though! Biggrin

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 08-04-2012, 05:34 PM
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(08-03-2012, 03:29 PM)celestino Wrote: i do not have any and was wondering if they are more prone to splitting or breaking. They sure look beautiful!

What are you using to polish up your horn handles with?

My M&F could use a good polishing.

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 08-04-2012, 05:50 PM
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I used to have some - Plisson, M&F, Kimson, Shavemac - and I really liked their appearance and feel a lot, but I eventually ended up selling all of them, mainly to make room for and raise money for more Somerset Simpsons. I thought it was kind of interesting that when I originally bought the M&F, Lee tried to talk me out of the horn handle because he said it was not as durable as the synthetic handles. But I ignored his advice.

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 08-04-2012, 05:59 PM
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I have a real horn handled Shavemac brush that has been in rotation for 3 years or so

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