09-10-2016, 03:41 AM
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Hello again guys, 

From what I know TGN and lately Whipped Dog are the sellers I knew who sold individual knots as a reasonable price. I was wondering if you guys could give your input on any other sellers who would stock a premium quality knot at good price? Looking at HMW or Premium Silver tip . 

I also hear that many members go for the Manchurian knot. My understanding was that the High Mountain white was the top of the range when it came to knots. I thought the Manchurian was a couple of steps below HMW. 

I am looking for luxurious soft tips and good backbone.

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 09-10-2016, 03:59 AM
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Check out Shave Mac for knots too.

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 09-10-2016, 04:04 AM
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The Romera manchurian knots are usually incredibly soft. They vary quite a bit but i have never had a bad one. Problem is waiting for them to go on sale and waiting for them to arrive. If you want something faster the Shavemac Two Band Silvertip is great.

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 09-10-2016, 04:29 AM
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Shavemac knots are excellent.

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 09-10-2016, 04:47 AM
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  • Mr_Smartepants
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Brad Sears' new Manchurian are the go-to for zero-scritch luxury.

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 09-10-2016, 05:30 AM
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Envy Shave on Etsy has a super soft and very very dense Luxury Silvertip. Also an excellent two band called Envy White.

Bob Quinn at Elite Razors has well loved two and three band premium knots. I have seen a lot of love from those who have them.

And everything else that has been mentioned above.

Lots of options. No consensus on the 'best' since everyone has different preferences.

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 09-10-2016, 05:30 AM
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Sorry guys .. I cant seem to find just the knots on shavemacs website! Am I missing something?

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 09-10-2016, 05:35 AM
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(09-10-2016, 05:30 AM)bakerbarber Wrote: Envy Shave on Etsy has a super soft and very very dense Luxury Silvertip. Also an excellent two band called Envy White.

Bob Quinn at Elite Razors has well loved two and three band premium knots. I have seen a lot of love from those who have them.

And everything else that has been mentioned above.

Lots of options. No consensus on the 'best' since everyone has different preferences.

Thanks very much mate ...Have you used any of these personally? if so how do you find them compared to some of the ready made market leaders?

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 09-10-2016, 06:15 AM
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(09-10-2016, 05:30 AM)greekgod Wrote: Sorry guys .. I cant seem to find just the knots on shavemacs website! Am I missing something?

http://www.shavemac.com/products/Experts...ELECT.html

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 09-10-2016, 06:51 AM
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(09-10-2016, 06:15 AM)gp569900 Wrote:
(09-10-2016, 05:30 AM)greekgod Wrote: Sorry guys .. I cant seem to find just the knots on shavemacs website! Am I missing something?

http://www.shavemac.com/products/Experts...ELECT.html

Cheers just had a look. I am surprised that the know 28mm Silvertip itself can cost upwards of Euro 220!!! wow

Just wondering is there is much difference in the quality and density from these compared to lets say TNG?

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 09-10-2016, 06:55 AM
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(09-10-2016, 06:51 AM)greekgod Wrote:
(09-10-2016, 06:15 AM)gp569900 Wrote:
(09-10-2016, 05:30 AM)greekgod Wrote: Sorry guys .. I cant seem to find just the knots on shavemacs website! Am I missing something?

http://www.shavemac.com/products/Experts...ELECT.html

Cheers just had a look. I am surprised that the know 28mm Silvertip itself can cost upwards of Euro 220!!! wow

Just wondering is there is much difference in the quality and density from these compared to lets say TNG?

I don't think any of their knots should cost that. You must be configuring a full brush. Maybe their largest D-02 knots. I'd go with a two band Silvertip

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 09-10-2016, 07:12 AM
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Shavemac knots are excellent but expensive.  I've used 2-band knots from TGN and WSP and they are good, with the TGN being a very good value for the price.  I've also used the Envy White 2-band, which has excellent backbone and scrub.  The Envy White is not, however, a soft knot, and some may characterize it's scrub as scritch.  Bob Quinn of Elite Razor is sourcing his own premium knots and they are superb.  These Bob Quinn knots have it all - backbone, soft tips, and no scritch.

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 09-10-2016, 07:26 AM
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(09-10-2016, 07:12 AM)TheLegalRazor Wrote: Shavemac knots are excellent but expensive.  I've used 2-band knots from TGN and WSP and they are good, with the TGN being a very good value for the price.  I've also used the Envy White 2-band, which has excellent backbone and scrub.  The Envy White is not, however, a soft knot, and some may characterize it's scrub as scritch.  Bob Quinn of Elite Razor is sourcing his own premium knots and they are superb.  These Bob Quinn knots have it all - backbone, soft tips, and no scritch.

Thanks looking at his site now. He has the manchurian knot which I am not sure where it sits with the Silver tip or the High Mountain White?

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 09-10-2016, 09:31 AM
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My most recent Envy White fan has zero scritch... fwiw.

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 09-10-2016, 09:33 AM
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Since you can't purchase Thäter knots, the most luxurious badger knots for me are Shavemac 2-Band Silvertips. I prefer a very soft knot with medium backbone for face lathering. Bob Quinn's Manchurian knots would be my next choice. I also enjoy some synthetics in custom handles, with Ubersoft II my current favorite, a knot that seems to come closest to a badger knot. It's very economical, and found at Envy Shave on Etsy.

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 09-10-2016, 10:03 AM
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(09-10-2016, 07:26 AM)greekgod Wrote:
(09-10-2016, 07:12 AM)TheLegalRazor Wrote: Shavemac knots are excellent but expensive.  I've used 2-band knots from TGN and WSP and they are good, with the TGN being a very good value for the price.  I've also used the Envy White 2-band, which has excellent backbone and scrub.  The Envy White is not, however, a soft knot, and some may characterize it's scrub as scritch.  Bob Quinn of Elite Razor is sourcing his own premium knots and they are superb.  These Bob Quinn knots have it all - backbone, soft tips, and no scritch.

Thanks looking at his site now. He has the manchurian knot which I am not sure where it sits with the Silver tip or the High Mountain White?

If you read these threads you'll see what others are saying about the Bob Quinn knots:

http://shavenook.com/showthread.php?tid=41837

http://shavenook.com/showthread.php?tid=42023

http://shavenook.com/showthread.php?tid=43873

Bob characterizes his High Mountain White, which is a 3-band, as having "moderate backbone and extremely soft tips."  He characterizes his Manchurian White, which is a two-band, as having "exceptional backbone and very soft tips."  I find these to be accurate characterizations.

The labels given to badger hair are highly subjective.  However, generally speaking, High Mountain White is associated with more softness than regular silvertip.

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 09-12-2016, 07:14 AM
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(09-10-2016, 10:03 AM)TheLegalRazor Wrote:
(09-10-2016, 07:26 AM)greekgod Wrote:
(09-10-2016, 07:12 AM)TheLegalRazor Wrote: Shavemac knots are excellent but expensive.  I've used 2-band knots from TGN and WSP and they are good, with the TGN being a very good value for the price.  I've also used the Envy White 2-band, which has excellent backbone and scrub.  The Envy White is not, however, a soft knot, and some may characterize it's scrub as scritch.  Bob Quinn of Elite Razor is sourcing his own premium knots and they are superb.  These Bob Quinn knots have it all - backbone, soft tips, and no scritch.

Thanks looking at his site now. He has the manchurian knot which I am not sure where it sits with the Silver tip or the High Mountain White?

If you read these threads you'll see what others are saying about the Bob Quinn knots:

http://shavenook.com/showthread.php?tid=41837

http://shavenook.com/showthread.php?tid=42023

http://shavenook.com/showthread.php?tid=43873

Bob characterizes his High Mountain White, which is a 3-band, as having "moderate backbone and extremely soft tips."  He characterizes his Manchurian White, which is a two-band, as having "exceptional backbone and very soft tips."  I find these to be accurate characterizations.

The labels given to badger hair are highly subjective.  However, generally speaking, High Mountain White is associated with more softness than regular silvertip.
For the price, these are by far the best knots I've ever used.  I had a TGN knot and my particular knot was pokey and scritchy, even after about 10 to 12 lathers.  I just couldn't stand using it so I got rid of it.  

If you look at the Elite Razor Manchurian Whites, they are between 50 and 60$ a knot.  Bob can make you one with a handle for about 110 or 120. Additionally, its going to be quite a bit more affordable than Shavemac or Thater, and I honestly find the Manchurian White knots from Elite Razor to have more backbone than Thater. Since you are new to buying brushes, I say try one of the Elite Razor Manchurians and you might find your stopping point.  I believe you will truly be floored by the luxurious softness combined with the solid backbone those knots have.

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 09-14-2016, 01:50 AM
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(09-12-2016, 07:14 AM)SCShaver Wrote:
(09-10-2016, 10:03 AM)TheLegalRazor Wrote:
(09-10-2016, 07:26 AM)greekgod Wrote: Thanks looking at his site now. He has the manchurian knot which I am not sure where it sits with the Silver tip or the High Mountain White?

If you read these threads you'll see what others are saying about the Bob Quinn knots:

http://shavenook.com/showthread.php?tid=41837

http://shavenook.com/showthread.php?tid=42023

http://shavenook.com/showthread.php?tid=43873

Bob characterizes his High Mountain White, which is a 3-band, as having "moderate backbone and extremely soft tips."  He characterizes his Manchurian White, which is a two-band, as having "exceptional backbone and very soft tips."  I find these to be accurate characterizations.

The labels given to badger hair are highly subjective.  However, generally speaking, High Mountain White is associated with more softness than regular silvertip.
For the price, these are by far the best knots I've ever used.  I had a TGN knot and my particular knot was pokey and scritchy, even after about 10 to 12 lathers.  I just couldn't stand using it so I got rid of it.  

If you look at the Elite Razor Manchurian Whites, they are between 50 and 60$ a knot.  Bob can make you one with a handle for about 110 or 120. Additionally, its going to be quite a bit more affordable than Shavemac or Thater, and I honestly find the Manchurian White knots from Elite Razor to have more backbone than Thater. Since you are new to buying brushes, I say try one of the Elite Razor Manchurians and you might find your stopping point.  I believe you will truly be floored by the luxurious softness combined with the solid backbone those knots have.
HI mate,

Thanks for the info. I actually I am not new to brushes and have had a Silver tip Edwin Jagger for 9 years with very good performance. But I wanted to get back in and enjoy some new and better brushes.

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 09-14-2016, 04:30 AM
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(09-14-2016, 01:50 AM)greekgod Wrote:
(09-12-2016, 07:14 AM)SCShaver Wrote:
(09-10-2016, 10:03 AM)TheLegalRazor Wrote: If you read these threads you'll see what others are saying about the Bob Quinn knots:

http://shavenook.com/showthread.php?tid=41837

http://shavenook.com/showthread.php?tid=42023

http://shavenook.com/showthread.php?tid=43873

Bob characterizes his High Mountain White, which is a 3-band, as having "moderate backbone and extremely soft tips."  He characterizes his Manchurian White, which is a two-band, as having "exceptional backbone and very soft tips."  I find these to be accurate characterizations.

The labels given to badger hair are highly subjective.  However, generally speaking, High Mountain White is associated with more softness than regular silvertip.
For the price, these are by far the best knots I've ever used.  I had a TGN knot and my particular knot was pokey and scritchy, even after about 10 to 12 lathers.  I just couldn't stand using it so I got rid of it.  

If you look at the Elite Razor Manchurian Whites, they are between 50 and 60$ a knot.  Bob can make you one with a handle for about 110 or 120. Additionally, its going to be quite a bit more affordable than Shavemac or Thater, and I honestly find the Manchurian White knots from Elite Razor to have more backbone than Thater. Since you are new to buying brushes, I say try one of the Elite Razor Manchurians and you might find your stopping point.  I believe you will truly be floored by the luxurious softness combined with the solid backbone those knots have.
HI mate,

Thanks for the info. I actually I am not new to brushes and have had a Silver tip Edwin Jagger for 9 years with very good performance. But I wanted to get back in and enjoy some new and better brushes.

Good luck to you man.  I'll be curious to know which direction you go in with your knot/brush selection and how it turns out for you. There are certainly some great recommendations in this thread.

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 09-14-2016, 06:37 AM
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(09-10-2016, 06:51 AM)greekgod Wrote:
(09-10-2016, 06:15 AM)gp569900 Wrote:
(09-10-2016, 05:30 AM)greekgod Wrote: Sorry guys .. I cant seem to find just the knots on shavemacs website! Am I missing something?

http://www.shavemac.com/products/Experts...ELECT.html

Cheers just had a look. I am surprised that the know 28mm Silvertip itself can cost upwards of Euro 220!!! wow

Just wondering is there is much difference in the quality and density from these compared to lets say TNG?

I agree with GP569900 you are not looking at the costs properly.  In addition, the prices on his site include 19% VAT which is deducted from the purchase price if you live outside the EU.  Five of my brushes are ShaveMac's and they are incredible.  In addition, it is important that you decide on a Silvertip (I would suggest 2 band) or a Silvertip D01 (I would suggest 2 band).  There is a big difference between them and knot size makes a big difference.

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