09-15-2016, 06:37 PM
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  • MaxP
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A recent thread suggested, actually stated, that most soaps will hold more water than is often used. I took that to heart and have tried it lately with a number of soaps.

And, its true. I have added water a little at a time and the lather has been shinier, slicker and resulted in a more enjoyable shave.

So this old dog has learned a new trick. Thanks for the tip to all who shared (and already knew this). For the rest of you...more water. It'll improve your shave. For free.


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 09-15-2016, 06:42 PM
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  • gp569900
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What soaps were you using? And how much more water do you think you used beyond normal?

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 09-15-2016, 06:56 PM
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I do know that I had a hard time getting the hang of using a shave (soap) stick. Then I decided to start with a wetter brush than I had been. Then wow, I got plenty of lather then. Sometimes water is the key.

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 09-15-2016, 10:34 PM
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Me too. I used to think if I add more water my lather might collapse but just small drips and patience pays off.

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 09-16-2016, 01:57 AM
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Truth!


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 09-16-2016, 02:34 AM
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(09-15-2016, 06:56 PM)shave/brush Wrote: I do know that I had a hard time getting the hang of using a shave (soap) stick. Then I decided to start with a wetter brush than I had been. Then wow, I got plenty of lather then. Sometimes water is the key.


This is a problem I think most have when starting to use sticks. I still forget to have my brush wetter than normal when I'm using them - it makes a big difference.


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 09-16-2016, 06:38 AM
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  • nikos.a
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It works with some soaps.

From my experience, Razorock soaps hate water. So, it depends on the soap and the water quality.

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 09-16-2016, 05:24 PM
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(09-15-2016, 06:42 PM)gp569900 Wrote: What soaps were you using? And how much more water do you think you used beyond normal?

Let's see. DR Harris, CRSW, Mike's, Wholly Kow.



I think probably 12 to 20 drops.  After loading the brush and lathering on my face, I'll dribble 6 to 10 drops into the brush and rework the lather on one side of my face.  Then repeat on the other side.  I think maybe I can add even more water.  I'll have to experiment. 

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 09-16-2016, 05:26 PM
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(09-16-2016, 06:38 AM)nikos.a Wrote: It works with some soaps.

From my experience, Razorock soaps hate water. So, it depends on the soap and the water quality.

Maybe that's why I tried and let go of RR soaps.   Confused

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 09-16-2016, 06:12 PM
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(09-16-2016, 05:24 PM)MaxP Wrote:
Let's see. DR Harris, CRSW, Mike's, Wholly Kow.



I think probably 12 to 20 drops.  After loading the brush and lathering on my face, I'll dribble 6 to 10 drops into the brush and rework the lather on one side of my face.  Then repeat on the other side.  I think maybe I can add even more water.  I'll have to experiment. 

Max, you definitely could use much more water, depending on how much soap you use. Mike's is quite a thirsty soap and I can assure you if you are loading your brush for 30 seconds or more, it will require much more water, in opinion. If you are worried that you have added too much water, just keep working the lather. Shy

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 10-06-2016, 08:01 PM
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Starting with a damp brush, gradually adding water, and taking more time to build the lather brought a quantum leap in cushion and slickness quality for me. Took some experimenting and requires patience, but so worth it.

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 10-07-2016, 07:35 AM
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Yes. Once the epiphany hit, my lather and shaves both improved dramatically.

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 10-07-2016, 02:10 PM
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I always fealt like razorock soaps were sensitive to water , as the amount of soap used per shave and how little water I could use in my lather before it started to get thin lead me to believe the soap has a lot of water in the base (at least the few that I have used) back to the OP I agree water is key to slickness and I did not fully understand what I needed to do with my lather until I started straight razor shaving. DE shaves are very forgiving in terms of what lather you can use. I can rub a bar of soap on my face with some water for a few seconds and have a perfectly comfortable DE shave. Straight razors require that slick lather and I then started adding more and more water.

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 10-07-2016, 03:19 PM
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I stumbled over this epiphany a few years ago. 

I accidentally dropped my brush in the sink while loading it.  The result of the extra water was a shiny slick lather that helped me get my best shave to date.

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 10-07-2016, 03:58 PM
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(10-07-2016, 03:19 PM)PanChango Wrote: I stumbled over this epiphany a few years ago. 

I accidentally dropped my brush in the sink while loading it.  The result of the extra water was a shiny slick lather that helped me get my best shave to date.



Nice find, more often than not when I drop something I cringe, and then I am less than happy to see the result. Congrats and happy shaves.

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 10-07-2016, 04:14 PM
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(10-07-2016, 03:58 PM)ultra~nova Wrote:
(10-07-2016, 03:19 PM)PanChango Wrote: I stumbled over this epiphany a few years ago. 

I accidentally dropped my brush in the sink while loading it.  The result of the extra water was a shiny slick lather that helped me get my best shave to date.



Nice find, more often than not when I drop something I cringe, and then I am less than happy to see the result. Congrats and happy shaves.

Cheers.  Yeah, I agree about dropping things.  This was a happy accident.

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 10-08-2016, 11:16 AM
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This is something I learned early on. It is really more about preference than anything, I think. But I have noticed in pictures on the forums, video on Youtube, etc., that most prefer a more pastey type lather, even guys who have been shaving  this way  a while. Early on, I found that I prefer a much wetter lather, on the edge of being able to see through it a little bit. Doesn't look as rich or thick as most other methods, but I have found that, for me and my straights, I get a much better shave that way.

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 10-08-2016, 11:25 AM
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I happened to see this thread last night and decided to try something a little different and follow the info in this thread and I was WAY more pleased and even surprised than I thought. Best lather I have ever whipped up that's for sure! Aaaaa I am looking forward to trying this on each brand of soap I have to see if the results are consistent.

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