10-02-2016, 08:36 PM
#21
  • pbrmhl
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  • Seattle
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I suggest a simple solution: If you buy, trade or get PIF'd through the forum, you must sell, trade or PIF through the forum (or another shaving forum, however the mods decide to define it). Personally, my rule is not to resell anything I buy, swap for or get PIF'd on this (or any other shaving) forum. I might swap or PIF, but not sell.

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 10-02-2016, 08:38 PM
#22
  • Shaun
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  • St Peters, NSW, Australia
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(10-02-2016, 08:16 PM)ben74 Wrote:
(10-02-2016, 06:27 PM)bullgoose Wrote:
(10-02-2016, 06:22 PM)kav Wrote: Again, are we going to be repeating this a third time or close the damned barn door? ALL online shaving forums, blogs etc need to connect on this issue and monitor excessive purchases.

That would be difficult if not impossible. I would advise buyers and sellers to do their due diligence before agreeing to a transaction. It is also very important to report these matters to a moderator so that we can remove the tumor and stop the problem behavior.

In part that is why the feedback system exists. It's prudent not only to monitor, but also contribute to. Forewarned is forearmed...

Our BST exists to promote traditional wet shaving, not line greedy pockets.
Agreed. I'd rather give items away than sell for profit. It's a rubbish person who would seek to take advantage like this. I wonder if he refunds off eBay? It would do him/her some good if those here in the Nook  insisted, but that's up to the individual purchasers.

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 10-02-2016, 08:41 PM
#23
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(10-02-2016, 05:45 PM)Urolex Wrote: When you poach the BSTs for profit, you're simply depriving true members from getting an item they want and would actually use.  That's what really pissed me off.

This - so much this that it hurts.

Abusing the inherent trust of the BST here (or on the other forums) hurts fellow shavers. Not quite gentlemanly behaviour in my not terrible humble opinion...

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 10-02-2016, 09:23 PM
#24
  • Mr_Smartepants
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(10-02-2016, 04:15 PM)kav Wrote: And good luck selling at those prices. Is there anyway  forums, blogs etc be alerted to these people?

He's also a member of DFS forums where he tried to buy my Triad handle.  He had me take loads of photos using my daughter's macro lens of the knurling (he was looking for a specific pattern).
What a pain.  In the end he bailed out of the sale and I traded it with another member.
Those ebay prices though!

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 10-03-2016, 01:43 AM
#25
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(10-02-2016, 06:27 PM)bullgoose Wrote:
(10-02-2016, 06:22 PM)kav Wrote: Again, are we going to be repeating this a third time or close the damned barn door? ALL online shaving forums, blogs etc need to connect on this issue and monitor excessive purchases.

That would be difficult if not impossible. I would advise buyers and sellers to do their due diligence before agreeing to a transaction. It is also very important to report these matters to a moderator so that we can remove the tumor and stop the problem behavior.

This is what i immensely enjoy here compared to other forums is the bst feedback section.  It brings a peace of mind to transactions and ensures we stay gentlemanly or be removed from the forum.   As a group, we are very good at watching out for each others best interest, but like all areas of life it comes with responsibilities to watch out for the jerks.

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 10-03-2016, 02:46 AM
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Wow. He complained wet shaving was cost prohibitive and didn't have the extra income yet he has the money to buy everything off everyone in hopes of flipping. What an ass! Good riddance!!

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 10-03-2016, 02:54 AM
#27
  • Urolex
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  • Phoenix, AZ
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(10-02-2016, 08:38 PM)Shaun Wrote:
(10-02-2016, 08:16 PM)ben74 Wrote:
(10-02-2016, 06:27 PM)bullgoose Wrote: That would be difficult if not impossible. I would advise buyers and sellers to do their due diligence before agreeing to a transaction. It is also very important to report these matters to a moderator so that we can remove the tumor and stop the problem behavior.

In part that is why the feedback system exists. It's prudent not only to monitor, but also contribute to. Forewarned is forearmed...

Our BST exists to promote traditional wet shaving, not line greedy pockets.
Agreed. I'd rather give items away than sell for profit. It's a rubbish person who would seek to take advantage like this. I wonder if he refunds off eBay? It would do him/her some good if those here in the Nook  insisted, but that's up to the individual purchasers.
I've debated making him an offer to get my UFO back. He listed it for $350. I sent him a PM with a screenshot of it to call him out for the punk move. Shortly after (and probably unrelated to my PM), he changed it to $350/OBO.

I don't really have the time or stomach to deal with that garbage, but if someone is so inclined, go for it! Let me know his response.

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 10-03-2016, 06:07 AM
#28
  • Coyote
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  • Hondo, TX USA
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Just say "Adios"..........

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 10-03-2016, 06:48 AM
#29
  • SCOV
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Disappointing to think you are helping a fellow "hobbyist" and actually helping some devious individual.

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 10-03-2016, 08:12 AM
#30
  • kav
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I just got off the phone with EBAY. He responded to my buyer question- where I called him out with an escalating stream of abuse which I countered. He then filed a complaint with EBAY who did not look at the full messages and gave me a warning. I told the EBAY rep the full story and argued if EBAY wants their website inegrity and rules respected they should honor those of other websites. I am awaiting a return phone call.
Our lad sports a full beard.

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 10-03-2016, 08:17 AM
#31
  • Urolex
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(10-03-2016, 08:12 AM)kav Wrote: I just got off the phone with EBAY. He responded to my buyer question- where I called him out with an escalating stream of abuse which I countered. He then filed a complaint with EBAY who did not look at the full messages and gave me a warning. I told the EBAY rep the full story and argued if EBAY wants their website inegrity and rules respected they should honor those of other websites. I am awaiting a return phone call.
Our lad sports a full beard.
Damn Kav! Respect!

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 10-03-2016, 08:20 AM
#32
  • Urolex
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I will avoid posting his name or email, but in the event that he creates another account, be forewarned that his mailing address is in San Diego, despite his eBay account saying Spring Valley, CA

Edit: one in the same

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 10-03-2016, 08:46 AM
#33
  • EricM
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  • Encinitas, CA
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(10-02-2016, 04:44 PM)kav Wrote: Inquiring minds want to know; how much did 3 bottles of FLOID cost you?

I forget but I think it was 30-something.  Not outrageous.  He's clearly making most of his money on the hardware.

Eric

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 10-03-2016, 08:51 AM
#34
  • VTMAX
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  • Woodstock, Vermont
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What's going on here?

Post his bloody name and email. Just saw this, don't know the guy, but get it out there so people overexcited about a new hobby don't get screwed.

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 10-03-2016, 08:58 AM
#35
  • Urolex
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(10-03-2016, 08:51 AM)VTMAX Wrote: What's going on here?

Post his bloody name and email. Just saw this, don't know the guy, but get it out there so people overexcited about a new hobby don't get screwed.
I'll defer to the mods, but there's a fine line between being vigilant and being a vigilante. He's not banned on the other site b/c in their eyes he didn't break any rules. Go figure. In fact, when a member left negative feedback, they removed it citing that the interaction didn't occur on their BST. (Mine did, but I left "neutral" feedback in hopes that it wouldn't get erased).

I commend Kav for contacting ebay, but they're gonna turn a blind eye for the sake of profit.

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 10-03-2016, 09:15 AM
#36
  • Rob W
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(10-03-2016, 08:20 AM)Urolex Wrote: I will avoid posting his name or email, but in the event that he creates another account, be forewarned that his mailing address is in San Diego, despite his eBay account saying Spring Valley, CA (near Sacramento)

Not good buying with the intention of turning a profit. Just and FYI, Spring Valley is in San Diego county.

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 10-03-2016, 09:15 AM
#37
  • Urolex
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(10-03-2016, 09:15 AM)Rob W Wrote:
(10-03-2016, 08:20 AM)Urolex Wrote: I will avoid posting his name or email, but in the event that he creates another account, be forewarned that his mailing address is in San Diego, despite his eBay account saying Spring Valley, CA (near Sacramento)

Not good buying with the intention of turning a profit. Just and FYI, Spring Valley is in San Diego county.
Google failed me!

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 10-03-2016, 09:22 AM
#38
  • VTMAX
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  • Woodstock, Vermont
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I don't get the fine line. The moderators have a responsibility. Hope they act. If not. Weak.


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 10-03-2016, 09:26 AM
#39
  • VTMAX
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  • Woodstock, Vermont
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Oh, forgot one thing.
Total D-Bag.


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 10-03-2016, 09:32 AM
#40
  • bullgoose
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(10-03-2016, 09:22 AM)VTMAX Wrote: I don't get the fine line. The moderators have a responsibility. Hope they act. If not. Weak.


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It is against the forum privacy policy to publish addresses and email addresses. We do not like being sued.

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