10-22-2016, 05:51 PM
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I bought the bronze ATT set. Have been shaving with the M plate. While shaving with weight of the blade pressure with a nice lather I seem to get these red bumps and razor burn. I gave it a few shaves and then tried the R plate. Same irritation. The blade is a GSB so I don't think its a blade issue. 

What could be causing this? I don't want to give up on this fine razor. I just don't want to deal with the irritation any longer.

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 10-22-2016, 05:57 PM
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Unknown what other razors or blades you use but I would play with the angle as all razors are a bit different. Blades likewise act different in different razors. Doesn't appear pressure is your issue.

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 10-22-2016, 06:02 PM
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  • Jorvaljr
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I agree . Try a different blade and change your angle. It's could be the geometry

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 10-22-2016, 06:10 PM
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OK guys I will work on the angle. Too shallow of an angle could be leading to the hairs being pulled instead of sliced like they should.

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 10-22-2016, 07:36 PM
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  • Jorvaljr
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And maybe try a different blade..

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 10-22-2016, 08:05 PM
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Same setup with a better prepping has worked for me many times.

Warm water face wash mixed with a dermalogica daily face scrubber has reduced my efforts by upto 30-40% and given me superb shaves.


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 10-22-2016, 08:08 PM
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Try a soap with more cushion/protection, I've found this has made a difference.

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 10-22-2016, 08:58 PM
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  • DayMan
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I have the m2 plate. It took me a few shaves to get the right angle. Stick with it. It's worth it. They have more blade exposure than other razors, so they require a slightly different angle of attack. I think I use a slightly more shallow angle than I do with my other razors.

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 10-23-2016, 05:27 AM
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try less pressure

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 10-23-2016, 06:13 AM
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Another point bronze is heavy so you need to compensate for the weight. Light touch don't press and no more then two passes. You can adjust on the fly.

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 10-23-2016, 06:28 AM
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Like others said, try a different blade. I just went back to a Personna Med Prep on an ikon x3 and started having irritation and bumps. I had kept a log of various blades I tried one year ago, and sure enough, my notes said the med prep gave me significant irritation. Out with that blade.


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 10-24-2016, 04:56 PM
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Still getting irritation. Have ruled out the blade. Works well in my other 2 razors. ... Frustrating because I paid so much for it.

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 10-25-2016, 08:22 AM
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I remember when I first started wet shaving I had a bit more irritation than with a cartridge (except no more ingrown hair and bumps). I think a new razor requires some time to adjust to technique. I have also taken the approach to do just a one pass sometimes and give my skin a break.


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 10-25-2016, 12:23 PM
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  • DayMan
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(10-24-2016, 04:56 PM)Stainless Wrote: Still getting irritation. Have ruled out the blade. Works well in my other 2 razors. ... Frustrating because I paid so much for it.

Have you tried pain stropping the blade before you shave? I had trouble with my ATT before I started doing that.

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 10-25-2016, 01:38 PM
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  • Teddyboy
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Am I correct that this bump situation does not arise with other razors?

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 10-25-2016, 03:08 PM
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This problem only happens when I'm using my Above the Tie razor. I've been straight razor shaving for 2 years and haven't touched a cartridge so I think I know what a light touch feels like. Smile

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 10-25-2016, 03:21 PM
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So here's another theory. Could you be allergic to the tin or copper in the bronze? Or, does the bronze have a protective coating that may be the culprit? Since shaving does create micro fissures in the skin, an allergy to bronze or a coating could be causing the inflammation which you feel as irritation.


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 10-25-2016, 03:39 PM
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There are certainly many answers for this. What I have found, having been through this, is that a good preshave after warm shower coupled with aftershave helps dramatically. In addition, blades will certainly play a role. Try an alum block after the shave (real cheep) and preshave oil prior to shave (to stand those hairs up on end). The alum has certain aspects that are astringents/anti inflammatory.

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 10-25-2016, 04:47 PM
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(10-25-2016, 03:39 PM)SimpleShave17 Wrote: There are certainly many answers for this. What I have found, having been through this, is that a good preshave after warm shower coupled with aftershave helps dramatically. In addition, blades will certainly play a role. Try an alum block after the shave (real cheep) and preshave oil prior to shave (to stand those hairs up on end). The alum has certain aspects that are astringents/anti inflammatory.


I've gotten to believe that if I have to do an insane amount of prep and multiple product use to avoid irritation, then something else is wrong. Particularly if I can get an irritation free shave with my current setup...any change should not require extra work.


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 10-25-2016, 05:31 PM
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(10-25-2016, 03:21 PM)olpski Wrote: So here's another theory.  Could you be allergic to the tin or copper in the bronze?  Or, does the bronze have a protective coating that may be the culprit?  Since shaving does create micro fissures in the skin, an allergy to bronze or a coating could be causing the inflammation which you feel as irritation.


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You may be on to something. I shaved with an ikon x3 slant for the first time tonight and no irritation. Same prep, blades, everything.. I do not need an insane amount of prep or really any prep aside from either a shower or a warm water splash with other razors so changing that part of the routine for one razor is not going to fly with me like it is with you olpski... I hope I figure it out soon or someone will get a deal on this beautiful bronze razor.

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