11-03-2016, 03:35 PM
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  • Shaun
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I note that what seems to be  Gillette #21 is in fact (in my book, anyway) a #22 or #66. Check the tell-tale head undercarriage: it is not the flat base plate you might expect on a #21, but the triangular lozenge. The shipper clearly states “21”, and so the claim that this razor is “Vintage et Neuf” (New Old Stock) cannot therefore be true… unless, of course, this is another bizarre example of Gillette offloading products and mixing packaging with content.  I really couldn’t say for sure.

Nonetheless, a hefty price for what is in any case a very GOOD razor. The #22 (#66) is a great shaver. Had I purchased it thinking it was a #21, though… I would NOT be a happy little traveler…

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vintage-et-NE...true&rt=nc

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 11-03-2016, 03:47 PM
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NOS #21 box and shipper.

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 11-03-2016, 03:48 PM
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(11-03-2016, 03:47 PM)lloydrm Wrote: NOS #21 box and shipper.

Yes, my point. Misleading. Perhaps not intentionally, but as I say, can't be NOS...

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 11-03-2016, 04:00 PM
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Oh, I totally agree with you.
Notice for the rest of the items he/she includes as much info on the model as possible, including numbers and names found on the items and boxes. Not on that one ...  Dodgy

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 01-19-2017, 02:28 PM
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  • doc47
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While you bought yours in France, I bought mine in Australia! LOL! I love the British made Aristocrat and have several. 
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 01-19-2017, 02:55 PM
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Coronation?

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 01-19-2017, 05:14 PM
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(01-19-2017, 02:55 PM)lloydrm Wrote: Coronation?
 

British Patent no. 694094 is inscribed inside the blade tray which dates this piece as post-1955, since earlier models were marked Patent Pending, so it dates well past the 1953 Coronation Set. I do own a Coronation set that is almost identical.

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 01-19-2017, 07:49 PM
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Certainly not a #21, and definitely what is generally considered a #22/66 from appearance.  Though it does appear to be in Excellent condition. Unable to see well enough to confirm via the top of the head and the blad doors.  The knurling looks fantastic.  I have seen a few close in price (more than 220 Euro or equivalent), but not quite that high before.  

That said, I think that the British Gillette Aristocrats run about 50% accurately named on eBay.  It no longer seems to be something worth scoffing at, it is simply silly.  

Caveat emptor is right.  You just can't trust it.  Check, check and re-check.  There are good deals to be had on things improperly labelled, but you will still pay for it with load shark levels of interest in terms of time if you want to be more than lucky once or twice.

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 01-19-2017, 08:54 PM
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(01-19-2017, 05:14 PM)doc47 Wrote:
(01-19-2017, 02:55 PM)lloydrm Wrote: Coronation?
 

British Patent no. 694094 is inscribed inside the blade tray which dates this piece as post-1955, since earlier models were marked Patent Pending, so it dates well past the 1953 Coronation Set. I do own a Coronation set that is almost identical.

Thanks for your thorough answer, and yes, I understand "Coronation" is of collector value, more than anything else.

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